ThinSlacko - March 2013 (deltas released May 2013)

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anikin
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#61 Post by anikin »

I'm trying to compile ppower:
http://www.smokey01.com/jemimah/saluki/ ... -01.tar.gz
and get this error:

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# compile
bash: compile: command not found
#
Any ideas?

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#62 Post by rcrsn51 »

Assuming that you have opened a terminal inside the folder ppower-jemimah-01, run the command

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sh compile
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./compile
You will also need the devx installed.

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#63 Post by anikin »

Both commands work, note taken for future reference.
Thank you, rcrsn51 and a special thank you to pemasu for his help in removing the turbo mode from the source. I have been shamelessly taking advantage of his good will recently ...
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#64 Post by greengeek »

greengeek wrote:I just did my usual frugal, copying across the sfs, vmlinuz and initrd.gz but it "boots" into a very weird and unusable (but very pretty) kaleidoscope of cyan / white / speckly lines and smudges all over the screen. Had to use hard power off to clear.
01micko wrote:try:

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puppy pfix=ram nouveau,noaccel=1
failing that:

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puppy pfix=ram nouveau,modeset=0
Aaahh. Finally got it to work. The modeset parameter was the one I needed, but it should not be a comma between the nouveau and the modeset, in fact it has to be a fullstop:

puppy pfix=ram nouveau.modeset=0

All good now.

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#65 Post by HiDeHo »

Hi this being a thin version of slacko are there a good set of .sfs applications available that are current maintained. THis would make ThinSlacko really useful. we need to go back to this approach to puppy beint thin, lightweight, needing a small save file and running apps outside the save file.

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#66 Post by HiDeHo »

Hi this being a thin version of slacko are there a good set of .sfs applications available that are current maintained. THis would make ThinSlacko really useful. we need to go back to this approach to puppy beint thin, lightweight, needing a small save file and running apps outside the save file.

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#67 Post by 01micko »

HiDeHo wrote:Hi this being a thin version of slacko are there a good set of .sfs applications available that are current maintained. THis would make ThinSlacko really useful. we need to go back to this approach to puppy beint thin, lightweight, needing a small save file and running apps outside the save file.
I'll answer that with a screeny :wink:
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#68 Post by Volhout »

Hi,

With delta-on-delta would it be possible to release another full iso ?

Volhout.

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Downloads not available

#69 Post by Hesse James »

Hi 01Micko
It seems like puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net is offline at the moment. Do you have another link for the deltas ?
Many thanks.
Christian

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#70 Post by ally »

hey hesse

I have created a page at the archive.org puppy linux channel and am uploading the deltas I have there

full ISOs will follow too

:)

http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_ThinSlacko

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#71 Post by greengeek »

Hi Mick,

I've just started trialling this in more depth and wondered what the main differences are between thinslacko5.5 and the predecessor thinslacko5.3.3t?

Main reason for asking is that this newer release is 46MB bigger (100MB for the 533t version) yet lacks a browser, geany or Abiword (all of which were in the previous version)

Where did all the extra MB come from?

Also - I have only just noticed that the Abiword version which is built into 5.3.3t is able to handle .docx format. Brilliant! (I've been using 5.3.3t as my main OS on my work netbook for more than a year and only just realised Abiword was already capable of handling docx. :oops: )

I think these two thinslacko offerings deserve wider acclaim.

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#72 Post by Keef »

One ISO has gz compression, the other xz.
XZ compresses more, but is slower on older machines.

Unless I'm wrong of course.

Actually I'm right - it's in the README....

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#73 Post by rufwoof »

greengeek wrote:I've just started trialling this in more depth and wondered what the main differences are between thinslacko5.5 and the predecessor thinslacko5.3.3t?

Main reason for asking is that this newer release is 46MB bigger (100MB for the 533t version) yet lacks a browser, geany or Abiword (all of which were in the previous version)

Where did all the extra MB come from?

I think these two thinslacko offerings deserve wider acclaim.
I love 533t also - I'm using it as my regular daily choice. My remastered version boots to around 220MB (used amount shown when using the 'free' command). With sound, net, firewall, flash and latest firefox running a SneekyLinux YouTube that rises to around 560MB.

I've stripped out abiword, geany, gnumeric etc. and stored SFS's for those so that I can load them in (or unload them) as desired. I've also SFS's for Nvidia drivers, flash and firefox and a whole load of other progs/utils (OpenShot, Teamviewer...etc. etc.)

My remastered version (slacko_5.3.3t_v2.02.iso) and current range of PET's/SFS's have been uploaded to the Cloud - link detailed in this posting http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 808#766808
I think these two thinslacko offerings deserve wider acclaim.
+1

Absolutely great for peace of mind with online banking - boot to ram, direct download and run the latest firefox, straight to bank web site .... when done reboot to a normal session (I always use a boot CD/DVD, no Grub etc. Just store work/data files and SFS's etc on the HD).

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#74 Post by rufwoof »

Slacko 5.3.3t remastered (v2.02 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 808#766808 91MB puppy_slackoxxx.sfs, 98MB ISO) DVD booted using puppy pfix=ram,nocopy with net connection, firewall and latest firefox (v28.0) set to cache=0 (no cache) and /root/.cache/mozilla/firefox/xxx.default cache directory cleared, with BBC news web page loaded

464MB memory used
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#75 Post by rufwoof »

I've since found a few other sizeable unused libs that were removed. Remastered slacko_5.3.3t_v2.03.iso is 95MB and booted, net, firewall, firefox 28 - viewing BBC web site (no flash installed)

431MB memory used.
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Pelo

Thin and Slim are not the same

#76 Post by Pelo »

Thin means 105MB, Slim means 145MB
Thin Slacko 5.3.3 is light but with everything in the menu.
145MB is to much for Slim Puppy. Not downloaded.

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thinslacko 5.5 kernel panic on PIII 500MHz

#77 Post by sindi »

Thinslacko 5.3.3 and 5.5 have kernels 3. 5.5 kernel panics.

Lupumini 5.2.8.6 and Lupu 5.40 use kernel 2.6.32 and take up only 30MB of RAM
after subtracting cache and buffers. They are about 122-130MB sfs files.
Lupumini comes with two sfs files (one zdrv) to reduce RAM usage but the
slightly larger 5.40 uses no more RAM to load into. On this PIII I cannot
get it to save to a savefile. I tried repeatedly. Saves file on a 2008 netbook.

Lupu 5.2.8.6 mini is therefore my best choice for the PIII 500MHz laptop.
Puppy 4.3.1 does a 10 min filecheck, and wary has no sound.
Arcade Puppy based on Puppy Akita 4.2.0 works but no wifi support.

The older puppies work better with low RAM and older hardware than thinslacko,
which I doubt was actually tested on a PIII by the author. Wrong kernel.

I got smtube working at 360 - copy or link to libQt libraries and copy
cacert.pem to /usr/local/ssl. I posted all the requisites at
http://keesan.freeshell.org/puppy/smtube. Lupu comes with mplayer
that works. Thinslacko does not, but on a 'new' (2008) netbook it
works with a 9MB mplayer2.

Palemoon won't work on a PIII (no SSe2). Firefox 24 will. Slow load.
Memory usage goes to about 256MB with 18MB buffers and 4MB free.
That is pushing it. Opera (or links or lynx) are preferable. Dillo is fast.

I use a 384MB swap file with 256MB RAM and 6GB very slow clunky hard drive.
I kill cupsd, everything in the tray.

On some PIII's wary works where lupu does not.

Pelo

kernel panics.

#78 Post by Pelo »

"Thinslacko 5.3.3 and 5.5 have kernels 3. 5.5 kernel panics."
what a :evil: !do you know how to switch the kernel ?
Hungarian can provide their version.
Try slacko 5.3.1... :? or Wolx 2014 (french Puppy) if you need help, we are bilingual (some of us are) topic here

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switching kernel in thinslacko

#79 Post by sindi »

I have never switched kernels in puppy linux. Nor have I compiled a puppy linux kernel.
I used to compile 2.2 and 2.4 kernels for basiclinux around 15 years ago.

Slacko 5.3.3 has the newer kernel 3.1, while slacko 5.3.1 has a 2.6.37 kernel.
No thin slacko 5.3.1.

Even puppy linux 3 has a 2.6 kernel.

A 2.4 kernel (from 2002) might be more suitable here.

I could not get smtube working in a puppy 4.

The laptop with Lupu 5.1.1 left Saturday to be used by someone with a free wifi signal who
was supposed to email me when he got online (no email yet). Lupu is adequate for the
purpose. Webmail, light browsing, smtube (kids' videos) and the 7 year old is enjoying the
tile game. Yahoo has a 'basic html' much faster than the standard version. We could hear
things swapping to swapfile (hard disk) even with Opera, which takes a while to load
(unpackaged but not installed) from hard disk. The disk is 14 years old, 6GB. Came with
Win2K, which is unbearably slow to load and run. Bad serial port - we tried two serial mice
- so they will learn to use a touchpad. The kid is teaching his father.

Online kids' games require flash and the computer is too slow for flash plus browser.
Lupu 5.1.1 ppm offers few games. Where would I look for others (puppies 1-4, etc.)?

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#80 Post by Robert123 »

@Pelo Your delerium gets worse.

@Sindi there is a Barebones Slacko 5.31 here if that is what you want. I am currently running it,
https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy- ... lds/files/

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