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LxPup-by-SFS (LXDE) - Slacko, Precise, Upup-Raring & Wheezy
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PostPosted: Mon 06 May 2013, 16:35    Post_subject:  

starhawk wrote:
That's helpful! Where do I find that package?


The .deb can be downloaded from here - the package was in the sfs but needed to be updated - I have rebuilt and tested the sfs's with the updated obconf.so and will upload them shortly.

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PostPosted: Mon 06 May 2013, 23:10    Post_subject:  

Installed. Works now.

Also the drives thing *is* dynamic now all of a sudden.

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PostPosted: Tue 07 May 2013, 02:43    Post_subject: Updated versions  

Updated versions of the A B & R sfs's with the updated obconf.so have been uploaded.

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PostPosted: Fri 10 May 2013, 03:48    Post_subject:  

Hi Peebee,

Many thanks for your great work ! I have been using lxpup SFS upon upup precise 3.8.3 and all went fine. All my hardware was detected out of the box. I have immediately started to play with settings Very Happy

The only very minor weird thing I found is a firefox desktop entry have appeared in menus but firefox was not installed yet. Anyway I installed it because I have hard time living without firefox Smile

I think your work could benefit a lot of Jejy69 work too, I noticed many desktop entries are not really in the right place, and finally results in overcrowded menus. Jejy69 approach is minimalist but I think the menus deserves some re-design Smile

Also I noticed many icons looking ugly. Maybe it would be worth to set a good nice looking theme instead of a weird mix we carry from a long time... Whatever the theme, oxygen or faenza, we need also good looking icons for the devices and monitors in system tray.

Another idea is we need to adjust color schemes. For instance blue is good, but when there is too much blue you can get sick of it... Just little changes here and there are welcome, like say, the folders icon in file manager are brown, not blue. Little changes makes wonders.

Anyway, none of this is your fault, I'm just giving ideas for future plans Smile
Thanks again, you're doing great and I love the LXDE desktop in puppy.

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PostPosted: Fri 10 May 2013, 08:25    Post_subject:  

lvds wrote:
Hi Peebee


Hi lvds

Many thanks for your feedback - its much appreciated.

I agree with all of your points and they are all things that would need to be worked on if lxde were to be chosen as the default for a major Puppy distribution - however they are also work items that will need a lot of painstaking work to get right (I think).

As it is, Lxpup by SFS seems to work "well enough" for me on top of Slacko to give me certain features that I like with not too many frustrations - so I'm unlikely to be the one who will iron out the wrinkles you have mentioned. However if somebody else wants to for instance tidy up the menus or the icons then I'd be very happy indeed to incorporate their work into my sfs - much as I originally did with Jejy's pioneering work on LxPup 13.01. I offer versions for other mainstream pups as well as Slacko to give people choice but I have noticed that the menu items do differ between the versions to a degree.

Jejy has obviously released other LxPup's since then but is gradually moving further away from "pure" Puppy with his different package management and menu structures.....which you either like or not.

The great thing about Puppy is - choice! Smile

I always add Chromium to my Puppies as that is my favourite browser - but as can be seen from the browser wars that occasionally break out - everybody has their own favourite.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 May 2013, 04:23    Post_subject:  

lvds wrote:
The only very minor weird thing I found is a firefox desktop entry have appeared in menus but firefox was not installed yet. Anyway I installed it because I have hard time living without firefox Smile


I've solved the phantom Firefox issue - updated pets (only affects the pets) have been uploaded.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 May 2013, 04:56    Post_subject:  

peebee wrote:
I've solved the phantom Firefox issue - updated pets (only affects the pets) have been uploaded.


Thanks I will update my personal storage Smile

I think we should submit Barry the idea to release the desktops sfs each time a new release is out. By reading the forum in the past months many people have been searching their favorite desktop sfs, with more or less luck.

Jejy69 made a wonderful work by releasing its sfs for precise but they were losts in a crash disk.

Carolina is a wonderful work on Xfce desktop but it's a complete woof build based on Racy for PAE kernels ; I have not seen a .SFS for XFCE or maybe I'm wrong ?

The idea would be to release a .SFS for each desktop so that anyone could apply to its favorite official release, choose PAE or non PAE, without having to re-invent the wheel each time and save a lot of time. Moreover, only a very small elite people are able to build these SFS desktop files.

I think that would help the whole puppy distribution a lot. If I find a thread for suggestions to Barry, I will link the idea Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 12 May 2013, 09:48    Post_subject:  

Hi Jejy69

Your doing great things with desktop stuff !

Want to ask you politely ..... maybe is there anything possible with E17 ..Enlightenment desktop ? . Its my favourite one .
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PostPosted: Thu 13 Jun 2013, 02:31    Post_subject: Updated sfs's  

The A, B & R versions of the sfs have been updated

The A & B versions of the sfs have been updated with pup-volume-monitor-0.1.14

For the B & R versions, lxsession has been updated to version 4.9.2 from Ubuntu Raring.

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun 2013, 04:35    Post_subject: LxPup by SFS for Raring Puppy with kernel 3.9.5  

Barry has created Raring Puppy http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87043

LxPup by SFS 5.5 B version runs on this new Pup with one proviso - a new version of pup-volume-monitor is really needed.

So, all parts of LxPup by SFS seem to be working as expected (pcmanfm, lxpanelx, the trashcan, samba shares etc.)

The thing that isn't working is detecting new storage devices when they are plugged in - but you can get over this pro-tem by using PMount - access PMount via the Run utility in the menu - just type pm and then select pmount and then mount your device there whence it will be accessible and demountable in pcmanfm.

Load LxPup by SFS B version as described in post #11

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 18:15    Post_subject: Better menu management for LxPup by SFS
Sub_title: Precise Puppy 5.7Beta support
 

28-jul-2013
All pets have been updated (see the individual posts) to have better menu management in that all menu items in the base pup are now found and included in the LxPup by SFS menus.

New lxpupsetup pet versions are:
1.4-s for Slacko and Upup-Precise
1.4-u for Precise Puppy **
1.5-r for Upup-Raring

** Precise Puppy 5.7 is supported by the B.5.5.3 version sfs plus the 1.4-u version pet

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 12:45    Post_subject: Precise 5.7.1  

Hi Peter, I installed Precise Puppy 5.7.1 this afternoon and before creating a save file for the first time, loaded your SFS and installed the PET. All works fine, first time, so thank you again. One question, however; in the menu structure accessed from the 'start' button, most entries have submenus with the same name; e.g. the Desktop menu has a 'Desktop' submenu, and the entries are split between the higher level Desktop menu and the Desktop submenu. Same for System, Utility, Personal, Network, and Internet, but not others. I would willingly edit the menu structure myself if I could see how. Can you give me any hints, please?
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 14:06    Post_subject: Re: Precise 5.7.1  

simes wrote:
Hi Peter, Can you give me any hints, please?


Hi Simes

I'll admit the menu structure is a bit odd but in my defence I thought it would be better to have all the underlying Pup menu items in the LxPup menu rather than have some missing which was the case previously.

You can find the menu definitions at /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-applications.menu

I created this automagically from the Pup menus with this script:
Code:
#!/bin/sh
#lxpup by sfs menu creator 27-07-13

cd /etc/xdg/menus
rm lxpup.menu
cat puppy-desktop.menu puppy-system.menu puppy-setup.menu puppy-utility.menu puppy-filesystem.menu puppy-graphic.menu puppy-document.menu puppy-business.menu puppy-personal.menu puppy-network.menu puppy-internet.menu puppy-multimedia.menu puppy-fun.menu > tmp1

sed -e '/?xml/ d' -e '/!DOCTYPE/ d' -e '/DefaultAppDirs/ d' -e '/DefaultDirectoryDirs/ d' -e 's/>Business</>Calculate</' -e 's/>Puppy-Desktop.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Desktop.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-System.directory</>Mate-Puppy-System.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Setup.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Setup.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Utility.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Utility.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Filesystem.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Filesystem.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Graphic.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Graphic.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Document.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Document.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Business.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Business.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Personal.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Personal.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Network.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Network.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Internet.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Internet.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Multimedia.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Multimedia.directory</' -e 's/>Puppy-Fun.directory</>Mate-Puppy-Fun.directory</' tmp1 > tmp2
rm tmp1
head -n 32 lxde-applications.menu > tmp1
tail -n 8 lxde-applications.menu > tmp3
cat tmp1 tmp2 tmp3 > lxpup-applications.menu
rm tmp1 tmp2 tmp3

exit
and then renamed the result - it maybe needs a tweak....

Let me know if you discover a better menu definition.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 17:49    Post_subject:  

Thanks for the background - I'll try to get take a look. I can't promise to do any better than you, however!
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Aug 2013, 14:30    Post_subject: Compiz add-on
Sub_title: More bling for Slacko
 

LxPup-by-SFS does not add any extra bling to what is available in the underlying Puppy other than the Elementary icon set.

01micko asked me to have a go at putting Compiz on top of LxPup-by-SFS for Slacko - the result can be found at:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=721580#721580

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NOTE: only for Slacko

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