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LxPup-by-SFS (LXDE) - Slacko, Precise, Upup-Raring & Wheezy
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peebee


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 16:24    Post subject: ThinSlacko  

ThinSlacko5.5.01 ONLY has a missing library and therefore needs the A.5.5.3-SFS plus the attached augmented pet which includes this missing library.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 05:12    Post subject: LxPup by SFS for Precise 5.5  

[EDIT]6-apr-13 new version uploaded[/edit]

To transform Precise 5.5 into LxPup-by-SFS-5.5 download the B-SFS to be found at the following link:

md5: cfdbdf6bd1c445fcf3f2fc526902c54a lxpup-by-sfs_B.5.5.2.sfs 11.8MB ... plus this pet 1.3MB

Install as described in post #1

The pet is bigger for this version (too big to be an attachment) as I found I needed to install some libraries that way to make it work.

The B-SFS uploaded 6-apr-13 includes the latest pcmanfm-1.1.0 and also pup-volume-monitor-0.1.11

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Apr 2013, 15:07    Post subject:  

Worked like a champ peebee in Slacko 5.5. I will try it in Upup. I think it would be good if Upup used LXDE, that would provide something new and some distinction from Slacko, but I doubt that its likely. Thanks much.

Reasons for LXDE (primarily for appeal to new Puppy users):
More modern look and feel
Easier for user to customize
Working Recycle/Trash system
Graphic application menu in pcmanfm
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Apr 2013, 15:21    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
Worked like a champ peebee in Slacko 5.5. I will try it in Upup. I think it would be good if Upup used LXDE, that would provide something new and some distinction from Slacko, but I doubt that its likely. Thanks much.

Reasons for LXDE (primarily for appeal to new Puppy users):
More modern look and feel
Easier for user to customize
Working Recycle/Trash system
Graphic application menu in pcmanfm


Hi Larry

Thanks for the report, your views mean a lot - I agree with all your comments and would add:

- Much improved integration with remote filesystems

I've been using the Slacko version pretty continuously since I made it and haven't stumbled over any show-stopper problems.

As I say in post #1 - it was inspired by Jerome's pioneering work and I could never have achieved anything without following his example.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Apr 2013, 16:27    Post subject: Version A.5.5.2 with pup-volume-monitor 0.1.11  

Version A.5.5.2 of the SFS for Slacko and Upup-Precise is now available in post #1 - the only difference in this version is the 0.1.11 version of pup-volume-monitor is included.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Apr 2013, 11:51    Post subject: New version A.5.5.3  

UPDATED 28-jul-2013

pet version 1.4-s has better menu management

UPDATED 13-jun-2013

New version for
Slacko 5.5 (normal or Thin from 5.5.03 or Phat versions) + Slacko 5.6beta

or

Upup Precise 3.8.3

md5: 9cea116870657e792c1999259d1ae10b lxpup-by-sfs_A.5.5.3.sfs - 11.5MB

Load the SFS + the PET and follow the steps in post #1

Main change is version 0.1.14 of Pup-Volume-Monitor

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PeeBee
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Apr 2013, 06:02    Post subject:  

My apologies to the first person who downloaded the pet above - if they downloaded the sfs as well, hopefully they worked out it was the wrong link - now corrected.
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Apr 2013, 14:54    Post subject: Version for Precise Puppy 5.7  

UPDATED 28-jul-2013 - pet updated for Precise 5.7 to version 1.4-u with better menu management

To transform Precise 5.7.1

into LxPup-by-SFS-5.5 download the B-SFS to be found at the following link:

md5: cea7122aac9ea89615b221dd7b759f4d lxpup-by-sfs_B.5.5.3.sfs - 11.8MB ... plus this lxpupsetup-1.4-u.pet 0.6MB

Install as described in post #1

The -u pet is bigger (too big to be an attachment) as I found I needed to install some libraries that way to make it work.

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13-jun-13 update= new versions of lxsession and pup-volume-monitor

29-jun-13 update= added PupControl to B sfs and included it in the panel for easy access

28-jul-13 update=new pet version for better menu management

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Apr 2013, 17:17    Post subject:  

superceded by post lower down
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Apr 2013, 09:54    Post subject: Re: Version for Precise Puppy and Upup Raring  

peebee wrote:
LxPup-by-SFS-5.5 download the B-SFS to be found at the following link:

md5: f34653bddd2f6c8636e8c4f9762d09a4 lxpup-by-sfs_B.5.5.3.sfs - 11.8MB ... plus this lxpupsetup-1.3-u.pet 0.6MB


Works OK.
I was just wondering if there is any reason for all the folders in the SFS to have 777 permissions.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Apr 2013, 16:40    Post subject: Version for Upup-Raring 3.9.9  

UPDATED 28-jul-2013

pet version 1.5r has better menu management

UPDATED 13-jun-2013

05-jul-13 - Also works for Upup-Raring 3.9.9.1

Pemasu has announced a new version of Upup-Raring 3.8.7.

This new version has pup-volume-monitor 0.1.13 built-in.

To add LxPup-by-SFS to this new version use this sfs:

md5: f19fdc564341bc66cba130eba5fc16e6 lxpup-by-sfs_R.5.5.4.sfs 12.2MB

plus the LxPupSetup-1.5.r pet attached to this post.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Apr 2013, 16:44    Post subject: Re: Version for Precise Puppy and Upup Raring  

mavrothal wrote:
Works OK.
I was just wondering if there is any reason for all the folders in the SFS to have 777 permissions.


Not intentional - suspect its a side effect of my laptop having an NTFS formatted hard disk (I think).....not sure how I can change.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Apr 2013, 18:51    Post subject:  

peebee, firstly, your sfs works. Thanks for that, tested with PHATSlacko.

Now, for a bit of constructive criticism and a suggested remedy.

I think you know my feelings toward NTFS and mixing it with Linux in general.

Having the 777 permissions could be bad for a number of reasons I won't go into. You are absolutely right pointing the finger at NTFS. It should be called "OTFS". Wink . It has never respected Linux permissions.

You'll be happy to know there is a simple work around. It's like creating a "dummy" save file except any install of Linux can access it.

Here is a rough "howto" to create one.

1. Mount your NTFS partition (defragged already of course) and change directory into it. I wouldn't use a windows system partition but you can if you want, at own risk.

2. Now you can make a file to house our Linux filesystem.
Code:
dd if=/dev/zero of=linux.ext4 bs=1024 count=524288
This produces a file of 512M named linux.ext4 on your NTFS partition. Multiples of 131072
(128M) are probably good, seeing as though we are building largish sfs files and you do need a bit of clearance.

3. Make the filesystem.
Code:
mkfs.ext4 -q -m 0 -F linux.ext4
That makes an ext4 filesystem but you could make ext2, 3, whatever you want.

4. Mount it.
Code:
 mkdir -p /mnt/linuxfs
mount linux.ext4 /mnt/linuxfs -o loop
.. or just click it in rox. (Correction: You would need the name to end in "4fs" to click in rox, you can do that if you wish)

You can do whatever you like in there.. compile, package, you name it. As a warning, don't be tempted to resize it, bad idea when the NTFS filesystem becomes fragmented. No guarantee that a defrag would help either.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Apr 2013, 05:25    Post subject: LxPup SFS  

Just wanted to add my thanks to Peter. I have loaded the SFS in Slacko 5.5. This was an existing system which already had a few packages installed, so a save file existed to begin with. No matter, everything installed without problems and so far has been rock solid. I am familiar with Puppy and like the way the existing Puppy menu structure and icons have been integrated into LXDE. There's nothing wrong with ROX/JWM and they have a reassuring feel which comes from years of familiarity, but I have become aware when using Puppy alongside other people who have (e.g) Windows 7/Vista or for that matter Ubuntu/Mint, that the look of the desktop is dated and for this reason LXDE is a real 'nice to have'. I am very confident defending my use of Puppy on a production machine, even in an office environment (and my machine is modern enough to run Windows 7 when I want to) but I prefer not to have to defend an old-fashioned desktop appearance when the real reasons to use Puppy are nothing to do with that!
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Apr 2013, 14:33    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
peebee, firstly, your sfs works. Thanks for that, tested with PHATSlacko.

Now, for a bit of constructive criticism and a suggested remedy.


Hi Mick

Many thanks for both the feedback and advice.

I have bitten the bullet and reformatted my hard disk to ext4 and deleted all traces of Windows at the same time.

What should I do now to reset the file permissions changed by NTFS? Is there even any simple way to do such a thing??

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