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stifling. In this link: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 979#645979

you will find tar ball of kernel kit. Inside it is several my used and 01micko`s used DOTconfigs of 3.X kernels. Inside folder configs_extra.

Just grap from there. I think there isnt 3.0 version, but the one used in 3.1 or newer should work also.

And...you can use that kernel kit for compiling. It is nowadays real easy to use....about kernel compiling for dummies....really. Not much expertise is needed when using kernel-kit. Thanks to Iguleder and 01micko. Unasked advertisement, lol.

pemasu wrote: Anyway...3.7.X kernel has been stable in Upup Precise. One possibility is to downgrade the kernel in the build.

Don;t go too far back....some of the earlier ones did not support my audio....which version of upup are you thinking of....I'll test and see if it's a no show for my chip.

thanks

tlchost wrote:

pemasu wrote: Anyway...3.7.X kernel has been stable in Upup Precise. One possibility is to downgrade the kernel in the build.

Don;t go too far back....some of the earlier ones did not support my audio....which version of upup are you thinking of....I'll test and see if it's a no show for my chip.

thanks

FWIW, Precise 3.7.2 didn't work on the newer Nvidia boxes either ....... everything else worked so well that I compiled k-3.2.37 (latest at the time) for it.
Aren't computers fun.........

pemasu wrote: And...you can use that kernel kit for compiling. It is nowadays real easy to use....about kernel compiling for dummies....really. Not much expertise is needed when using kernel-kit. Thanks to Iguleder and 01micko. Unasked advertisement, lol.

Haven't tried the kernel kit yet .... is it really that easy? Better than the old-school way?

Hello Pemasu

There have been reports of freezing of certain comps with 3.8.X kernels in Upup Raring

I'm not clear what "freezing" means i.e temporary or permanent.

What I found playing back MPEG2 video on VLC 2.1 was intermittent breaks in playback. But it did not happen with H.264 playback.

Since it was the one with very low CPU load that had the problem, i guessed that it might be to do with idle.

I put idle=poll on the kernel line, and that fixed the problem at the cost of a few Watts, at idle.

idle=mwait also fixes the problem without increasing the power noticeably. But I thought mwait was the default. Has the 3.8.x kernel changed the default?

I have only tried idle=mwait briefly, so I don't know whether it is a complete solution.

Good afternoon, pemasu, and all,

i am just trying upup raring 3.8.4.2. Want testing Abiword with a 5 MB Testfile (txt). Open it faster than other puppys, well - nice. I tried to make a change in 'preference', and CRASH. The Error messages looks like a gtk-problem (see attachment, copy from .history).

Can i get help to solve it?

-Computer-
Prozessor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor
Memory : 2072MB (238MB benutzt)
Maschinentyp : Physische Maschine
Betriebssystem : Upup Raring - 3.8.4.2
Benutzer : root (root)
Date/Time : Do 04 Apr 2013 15:37:13 CEST
-Display-
Auflösung : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NVA5
X11 Vendor : (null)
-Audio-Geräte-
Audio-Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio-Adapter : Bt87x - Brooktree Bt878
Audio-Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
-Eingabegeräte-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
...
HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm : 9=
HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm : 8=
HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm : 7=
HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm : 3=
-Drucker (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA Maxtor
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM

** sorry for my bad english, but im learning and trying, thanks **

I did a frugal install to my Eeepc 701 using the universal installer.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 4 Apr 2013 on Upup Raring 3.8.4.2
Linux 3.8.4-upup i686
2.0 VGAcompatible controller:Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
oem: Intel(r)915GM/910ML/915MS Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)915GM/910ML/915MS Graphics Controller Hardware
Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.13.3
dimensions: 800x480 pixels (211x126 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 9.0.3
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 900MHz
Core 0: @Intel(R) 1: @630 MHz

I installed Google-Chrome and an audacious pet.
It's not exactly speedy but okay for browsing while listening to music.

I'm install Raring with a Frugal Install on my Fujitsu T902.
But system, after boot, freezes and hangs at Quick Setup.
It's happened only to me?
I try rebooting but result is the same....

I using with success and satisfaction Upup Precise Kernel 3.8.3.1...

FabioT. Is is happening with certain graphics to other people also. I and 01 micko suspect kernel most atm.

Upup Raring version 3.8.4.2, released Apr 2013

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 366476 291004 75472 0 30768
-/+ buffers: 260236 106240
Swap: 658660 0 658660
#
# top
Mem: 291252K used, 75224K free, 0K shrd, 30888K buff, 204864K cached
CPU: 2% usr 3% sys 0% nic 93% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.44 0.23 0.12 1/77 14957
# uname -a
Linux puppypc8572 3.8.4-upup #1 SMP Mon Apr 1 17:49:25 GMT-8 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
#

Manual frugal install to ext3 on my 10yr old laptop. Running extremely well on this old kit. What a truly outstanding Puppy - Many thanks.

Nice build... what I have tested so far (a routine I use for most builds) works well. If it didn't, you know me... I'd say so

Did by chance anyone find a Google Earth '.sfs' that would run in raring? I've tried about 8 various ones I have and the best I can get is the initial 'flash screen' from a few of them?

>>>---Indian------>

sszindian wrote: Did by chance anyone find a Google Earth '.sfs' that would run in raring? I've tried about 8 various ones I have and the best I can get is the initial 'flash screen' from a few of them?
>>>---Indian------>

This one works, Google_Earth-6.0.3.2197-luki.sfs
I've been using Google maps and find it to be very good as well.

Running Raring from bootable USB drive, formatted in fat32.

sfs files of Opera 12.14 and 12.15 that were made via dir2sfs and others downloaded
in the forum will not run. The sfs files run in Slacko 5.5.

Opera 12.15, extracted to /mnt/home runs with no problems.

Kind of a show stopper for me, since Opera is my browser of choice.

Thom

I compiled latest abiword & gnumeric in raring-3.8.4.2:


abiword-2.9.4-i486.pet(2.2MB)
abiword_NLS-2.9.4-i486.pet(2.0MB)
abiword_DEV-2.9.4-i486.pet(6.0MB)
abiword_DOC-2.9.4-i486.pet(5.7MB)

gnumeric-1.12.1-i486.pet(2.1MB)
gnumeric_NLS-1.12.1-i486.pet(3.9MB)
gnumeric_DEV-1.12.1-i486.pet(85.1MB)
gnumeric_DOC-1.12.1-i486.pet(7.5MB)

Cheers

Billtoo Wrote:

This one works, Google_Earth-6.0.3.2197-luki.sfs
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmmm... I tried that one but only got to the flash-screen, it usually works with most of the newer puppy builds, maybe I have to look into it a little deeper or, might be my particular box has something Raring don't like and won't let it work?

'Thanks for the comeback.'

>>>---Indian------>

EDIT: (Today 5 Apr) Tried several configs with Google_Earth-6.0.3.2197-luki.sfs and it just won't do anything past the flash-screen??? Something missing for sure!

pemasu wrote:FabioT. Is is happening with certain graphics to other people also. I and 01 micko suspect kernel most atm.

Thank You Pemasu, in fact is the same problem that I have with Exprimo.
Perhaps Xorg version is older? (I can't see because computer freezes instantly)

Dear Pemasu and other Raring developers:

Thanks for this version which is the best I have tried so far for my hardware (a netbook using the Intel N2600 cpu, PowerVR cedarview graphics).

I made a previous post on another thread a while back regarding sound issues in "Carolina", which I could correct by blacklisting its gma_500 driver. I am pleased to report that with Upup Raring this issue is resolved.

I also tried Slacko 5.4 PAE, but definitely prefer Upup Raring. Slacko seems to have run the fan a fair bit more. With this version even when the fan is running the air exhaust seems to be cooler. Probably I prefer a non PAE Kernel, particularly for a 1GB machine.

Like Slacko I had the impression that when looking at JPG images that there was a too much blue from the display, unlike Slacko I can now use xgamma to turn down the blue channel.

xorgwizard was able to change the display driver to modesetting without error seems all is OK.

Mplayer can play videos circa 460x360 at 10% cpu albeit without enabling software rescaling. I prefer to save the cpu cycles, and switch the display via xrandr to 640x480 to make the video as large as possible without software scaling.

Overall I would recommend this version for intel based netbooks.

I would like to see a "lite" version with some of the major packages like Gnumeric, Abiword and Seamonkey removed.

James C wrote:Fresh manual frugal install of 3.8.4.1 on the Athlon XP box. Pretty much all good except for missing icons and missing details on web pages.

Solved by adding "nouveau.noaccel=1" to the kernel line.

@ tomo3, thanks for Abiword pet, works fine, thanks a lot.

I lend my Geforce-GT-220X to a person, his Graphic-Card is 'burn-out'.
So my Graphic is now OnBoard- Intel. GOT some X-crashes.
1) on selection Menu-System-Hardinfo-Summary, the screen is
changing to inclined differ colored blocks.
Mouse and keyboard without function, no return to command line
possible, had to kill the mashine with the power-bottom.
2) open Seamonkey, directly crashes.
3) The ''strange" Abiword, Osmo, Ding, Xawtv, Speedcrunch ..
runnning without a crash.
**) with the Geforce not these Problems.

The Solution from JamesC add "nouveau.noaccel=1" to the kernel line,
works, thanks to him.

I' am posting now from raring.

.. continue my testing
1) Ding (excellent dictionnaire), installed from ppm ubuntu-package,
TROUBLE: no menu entry, no icon, and .. no "word-book".
Solution, solved, see the Solution.tar.gz (Attachement)
2) Xawtv, watch Tv, TROUBLE: "cant load any fonts", solved, see
Solution.tar.gz

James C wrote:

James C wrote:Fresh manual frugal install of 3.8.4.1 on the Athlon XP box. Pretty much all good except for missing icons and missing details on web pages.

Solved by adding "nouveau.noaccel=1" to the kernel line.

I've now tested adding "nouveau.noaccel=1" to the kernel line with several of the versions that previously froze the computer with the troublesome Nvidia chip.... including Precise 3.8.3.1 ...... and the freezing has stopped.At least with this particular Nvidia chip.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Precise, version 3.8.3.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
2683 frames in 5.0 seconds = 536.505 FPS
2967 frames in 5.0 seconds = 593.221 FPS
2988 frames in 5.0 seconds = 597.534 FPS
2974 frames in 5.0 seconds = 594.786 FPS
2962 frames in 5.0 seconds = 592.342 FP