Today, this is given to cows, beef, porks, sheep, chicken, ... :
hormones to grow faster,
antibiotics against diseases,
pesticides against insects,
herbicides against vegetables,
gmo food...
Meat can be mixed with fat, bones, sugar, water, conservatives...
Some years ago, they gave dead cows to feed cows.
And recently, they sold horse meat and forbidden sheep as beef.
And recently, they found 30% of halal food was pork.
And for one kilo meat, they use thousands of liters of water, and tons of fertilizer made from oil. That's why rain forests in Brasil and Indonesia are becoming farms.
Of course, many research documents and companies, will tell you, don't worry, be happy. Ok...
What about meat ?
Exactly, for money and greed, life is destroyed by some humans, wars and all that are also a consequence of human greed. Greed is death.darkcity wrote:Most of what you describe is the side effect of an economic system which under values life and that which sustains life, ie animals, plants and the earth.
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bugman-2.0
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Could you or other vegetarians answer a question for me that has bugged me?Bligh wrote:I am not a vegetarian because I Like animals, I am a vegetarian because I hate vegetables.
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Why is it that vegetarian meat substitutes are made that are supposed to taste like meat?
It just seems a true vegetarian would not want to digest anything that looked or tasted like animal meat products.
I kind of like a food from a movie called Vacation.
The relation in it prepared barbecued hamburger helper without the hamburger.
So in effect, they were probably eating a barbecued meatless pasta.
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bugman-2.0
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If you love meat it can be difficult to give it up. Some people cannot just quit, cold tofurkey.8-bit wrote:Could you or other vegetarians answer a question for me that has bugged me?Bligh wrote:I am not a vegetarian because I Like animals, I am a vegetarian because I hate vegetables.
Cheers
Why is it that vegetarian meat substitutes are made that are supposed to taste like meat?
It just seems a true vegetarian would not want to digest anything that looked or tasted like animal meat products.
I kind of like a food from a movie called Vacation.
The relation in it prepared barbecued hamburger helper without the hamburger.
So in effect, they were probably eating a barbecued meatless pasta.
It all depends on the reason the person is vegetarian - and there are many reasons.
If its because they don't like the taste of meat - I doubt they would eat meat flavoured burgers, unless they are also a masochist.
If its becase they don't want to kill animals (but love the flavour of meat), then they might well enjoy a meat flavoured burger.
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BTW burger and sausage shaped food is no more related to animal products than vegetable etc.
If its because they don't like the taste of meat - I doubt they would eat meat flavoured burgers, unless they are also a masochist.
If its becase they don't want to kill animals (but love the flavour of meat), then they might well enjoy a meat flavoured burger.
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BTW burger and sausage shaped food is no more related to animal products than vegetable etc.
You city boys are so funny. We meat eaters out in the country don't deal with that.Today, this is given to cows, beef, porks, sheep, chicken, ... :
hormones to grow faster,
antibiotics against diseases,
pesticides against insects,
herbicides against vegetables,
gmo food...
Even roof rabbit tacos don't have preservatives.
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sickgut
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Step one in controlling the population and folding them into being your servants is to completely destroy the natural environment so that the populace has no choice but to eat the food you provide and make them pay for it and become part of the ruled society.
Once that step happens, you can put whatever the **** you want in the food and thats that. Force the populace to eat your GM and poisoned food.
Once that step happens, you can put whatever the **** you want in the food and thats that. Force the populace to eat your GM and poisoned food.
Yep, can`t figure how they can screw up a cow so badly, grass, water, sunshine = the cheapest way to raise them. They pay top dollar in the city for the stuff found in any little city TX meat market, plus if you go to a German sounding place they have dried sausage, home made jerky. great now I,m hungry should I go to Granzin's Meat Market or Penshorn's Meat Market or head over to Poth or Lockhart?rokytnji wrote:You city boys are so funny. We meat eaters out in the country don't deal with that.Today, this is given to cows, beef, porks, sheep, chicken, ... :
hormones to grow faster,
antibiotics against diseases,
pesticides against insects,
herbicides against vegetables,
gmo food...
Even roof rabbit tacos don't have preservatives.
I'm off to Wiatrek's (V AT tricks, yes a V sound not a W) Meat Market in Poth TX. The map-thingy shows a route ALL country road, Ice chest, dog are in the truck. Yes thats Polish and not German but they got jerky that tastes just like smoked BBQ brisket
Need to point out that Polish beef peppered jerky is unbelievable hot scoville scale of peppers, not just black pepper.
Need to point out that Polish beef peppered jerky is unbelievable hot scoville scale of peppers, not just black pepper.
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Dewbie
Well I've got my fill of meat thanks to this thread, got a few pounds of beef bone that I finished roasting up for the dogs (and human they left a few chunks of meat on most bones) some very spicy breakfast sausage, and some bbq jerky and dried sausage.
Found out they ship across the USA at http://wiatreksmeatmarket.com/ so I'll share the joy...
Found out they ship across the USA at http://wiatreksmeatmarket.com/ so I'll share the joy...
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Bruce B
Do you think so? I wouldn't have, until I read one probably two diplomatic cables that were 'released'.sickgut wrote:Step one in controlling the population and folding them into being your servants is to completely destroy the natural environment so that the populace has no choice but to eat the food you provide and make them pay for it and become part of the ruled society.
Once that step happens, you can put whatever the **** you want in the food and thats that. Force the populace to eat your GM and poisoned food.
The cables said things about France unwillingness to buy GM seeds which means to say Monsanto.
The problem I found that was shocking to me, was the attitude of going to war over France's unwillingness to buy our stuff. Not a military war, but war time operations to force France's hand.
I'm sorry that I don't know how to access those cables today.
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I agree that it is terrible how they treat the animal
and also treat us due to we eat meat that has too much
of those hormones in them.
The solution would be that each family have their own backyard
with Pig and Hen and what they find to work where they live.
that way they have some control over what kind of food they give
to the animal? Left overs from their own meal that day.
Another factor is that we are too many that compete for the food.
The local farmers get out competed. The basic trust person to person
buying food from somebody you personally know to treat the animals
in a good way get lost.
When I where kid we still had wild fish in the lakes and at the sea.
My Dad fished once or twice a week to get us such food affordable.
We where too poor to pay for fish from the local store.
and also treat us due to we eat meat that has too much
of those hormones in them.
The solution would be that each family have their own backyard
with Pig and Hen and what they find to work where they live.
that way they have some control over what kind of food they give
to the animal? Left overs from their own meal that day.
Another factor is that we are too many that compete for the food.
The local farmers get out competed. The basic trust person to person
buying food from somebody you personally know to treat the animals
in a good way get lost.
When I where kid we still had wild fish in the lakes and at the sea.
My Dad fished once or twice a week to get us such food affordable.
We where too poor to pay for fish from the local store.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
When I was a kid we did a lot of ocean fishing and caught Florida Stonecrabs in a trap. We also caught mud-bugs in lakes. We were not poor, it was just something we liked to do as a family. Mud-bug is southern US slang for this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayfishnooby wrote:
When I where kid we still had wild fish in the lakes and at the sea.
My Dad fished once or twice a week to get us such food affordable.
We where too poor to pay for fish from the local store.
Stonecrab is the best crab I have ever had, but it's a little difficult to find outside of Florida: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stone_crab.jpg
Mud-bug etouffee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:05310 ... ouffee.jpg
