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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2013, 18:48    Post subject:  

pemasu

Here is a 3.8.3 DOTconfig that does add some missing stuff, but be aware I changed to older processor and other stuff, including ISA, it is needed for some older hw sensors even though there are no actual ISA slots, there is still an ISA bus.

It still maybe misses stuff but it's good to compare Wink
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2013, 18:51    Post subject:  

Thanks 01micko. However. I have already compiled the kernel and woofed test build. I am atm uploading it.

I will check your DOTconfig.
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Fabio T

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2013, 19:08    Post subject:  

Thank you very much for your efforts.

pemasu wrote:
Fabio T. Your missing module or compile problem finding has revealed more serious problem with multifunction, memory stick and sdhc cards. it seems I have missed some vital modules.
Compiling them afterwards is not possible. The compiled modules are not compatible, there is symbol errors which means they are not accepted by this kernel.
Okay. The missing modules are crucial enough that I will recompile the kernel and then I will create new build.

Now comes the question. Should I update to the 3.8.3 kernel. It has a lot fixes. For example radkys needed somewhat broken tg3 has been fixed in it straight and I suppose there as some other important fixes also.
I think I do the decision tomorrow. If someone has opinion or knowledge, the arena is all yours.
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 04:04    Post subject:  

Upup Precise 3.8.3 has been uploaded. The only update is that I switched to the latest 3.8 kernel version. Missing drivers were found in mfd ie multifunction devices section and memory stick section. Thank you Fabio T !
I went through other device drivers also and I did add some modules more.

There has been fixes in several drivers since 3.8.2 version, so I hope the update will benefit us.

If this bulid is reliable and usable, I will compile latest ati drivers again and I will create build using latest woof. Barry has announced fix to speed up repo database update, which is not included in this build. It would require new woof and fresh build.

Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrecise/UpupPrecise383/

Kernel sources: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_sources/kernel-3.8.3-upup/
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 06:07    Post subject: Upup Precise 3.8.3 created by using up-to-date Woof  

I did a manual frugal install to a 4gb flash drive.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun17Mar 2013 on Upup Precise 3.8.3 Linux 3.8.3-upup i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
nee ATI RV530 [Radeon X1600]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Core 0: @2411 MHz
Multimedia
Audio Adapter CX2341[56] - IVTV-0
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

It's working okay so far.
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Fabio T

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 07:04    Post subject: Upup Precise 3.8.3 created by using up-to-date Woof  

Hi Pemasu,
This release is better than previous.
Thanks for rts5229 and WACOM support.
There is a problem in compiling:

I've tried to compile rts5229 driver to test the compiling feature, but...
It don't works in 3.8.3, it works fine in 3.7.2

I enclose two screenshots, one for 3.8.3, one for 3.7.2.

Where I have made mistake? Or there is a residual bug?

Thanks in advance.

Fabio T
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 07:18    Post subject:  

Fabio T. I believe your driver source is not compatible with 3.8.X kernels without patching.
That was one reason I decided to compile the kernel again and include the kernel module.

I dont think there is problem with my kernel per se.

If I understood right, you got the kernel included module working. That was the main thing.

I am atm pondering about what 01micko posted. When I add ISA support, I get one ISA hw sensors module more. But...if some sensors need that ISA support is on due to ISA bus being used ( I am not sure about that, lol )...then there is more idea to enable it.

If I enable ISA support, then I could add support for ISA soundcards.
But....Sage....or someone else...not sure... has posted several times that his ISA sound card does not work with recent kernels even though the modules are present.
I wonder if it is due to missed ISA plug and play support or if there is still some hidden feature which should be enabled.
If the ISA sound card is before ISA plug and play support time, then the irq and other parameters should be given at kernel compile time and those cards are out.
The kernel help tables or net searching has not helped so far....
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 07:59    Post subject:  

Thank you very much, now I can work with my laptop without add 2 drivers (wacom and rts5229)


pemasu wrote:
Fabio T. I believe your driver source is not compatible with 3.8.X kernels without patching.
That was one reason I decided to compile the kernel again and include the kernel module.

I dont think there is problem with my kernel per se.

If I understood right, you got the kernel included module working. That was the main thing.

I am atm pondering about what 01micko posted. When I add ISA support, I get one ISA hw sensors module more. But...if some sensors need that ISA support is on due to ISA bus being used ( I am not sure about that, lol )...then there is more idea to enable it.

If I enable ISA support, then I could add support for ISA soundcards.
But....Sage....or someone else...not sure... has posted several times that his ISA sound card does not work with recent kernels even though the modules are present.
I wonder if it is due to missed ISA plug and play support or if there is still some hidden feature which should be enabled.
If the ISA sound card is before ISA plug and play support time, then the irq and other parameters should be given at kernel compile time and those cards are out.
The kernel help tables or net searching has not helped so far....
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 08:45    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
I am atm pondering about what 01micko posted. When I add ISA support, I get one ISA hw sensors module more. But...if some sensors need that ISA support is on due to ISA bus being used ( I am not sure about that, lol )...then there is more idea to enable it.

If I enable ISA support, then I could add support for ISA soundcards.
But....Sage....or someone else...not sure... has posted several times that his ISA sound card does not work with recent kernels even though the modules are present.
I wonder if it is due to missed ISA plug and play support or if there is still some hidden feature which should be enabled.
If the ISA sound card is before ISA plug and play support time, then the irq and other parameters should be given at kernel compile time and those cards are out.
The kernel help tables or net searching has not helped so far....

Haha.. yes.. ISA.. well it is still an industry standard. Not that is used much, maybe more on servers, and as mentioned for HW monitoring.

Sage did send me an QDI board with ISA, (with a slot), supporting K6. Trouble is it seems it didn't survive the air mail, hoping it's only the AGP bus. I will soon purchase a PCI video card in the hope that it will give me an image on that board, then if that happens then I will pursue ISA sound. The old sound cards are far superior, but they go with older boards. Still, with this kernel (and appropriate config), many of them should run just fine. See what happens in the coming weeks Smile

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backi

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 09:17    Post subject:  

Hi !
Made frugal install on Usb stick .
Could not install Rightclick.pet .
Wanted to load an .sfs programfile... whole system did crash .

Just want to give report .

Cheers!

SOLVED!!!!!!

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LateAdopter

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 10:33    Post subject:  

Quote:
Haha.. yes.. ISA.. well it is still an industry standard. Not that is used much, maybe more on servers, and as mentioned for HW monitoring.


I think SMBus hangs off the ISA Bus which hangs off ....

On my motherboard with the 785G AMD chipset they are supported by the BIOS and do not need any drivers in Win2k.

So software like Speedfan can access devices directly via the ISA and SMBus without anything extra.

I don't know what is needed in linux though!
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 11:13    Post subject:  

Manual frugal install of Precise 3.8.3 on the trusty Athlon XP box.Everything working well ootb...... including detecting / mounting flash drives.
Installed a few pets,upgraded SeaMonkey to 2.16.2 ....no problems yet.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Precise, version 3.8.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
2253 frames in 5.0 seconds = 450.451 FPS
2421 frames in 5.0 seconds = 484.121 FPS
2397 frames in 5.0 seconds = 479.262 FPS
2345 frames in 5.0 seconds = 468.950 FPS
2374 frames in 5.0 seconds = 474.694 FPS
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 11:44    Post subject:  

01micko. In your DOTconfig
# CONFIG_DVB_USB_V2 is not set
You should tick this one. You get whole bunch of the tickable dvb-t tuner drivers more.
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 12:53    Post subject: Updating SeaMonkey in Precise PUPs  

Thanks James C
James C wrote:
... upgraded SeaMonkey to 2.16.2 ....no problems yet. ...
This seems like a plausible option. What method did you use in updating?

Thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 14:21    Post subject: Upup Precise 3.8.3 created by using up-to-date Woof
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I installed VLC-2.0.5 in ppm, it gives an error about can't run as
root but changing to user spot and starting vlc works.
I think it worked okay at first but something changed I guess, pretty
sure that it did anyhow, bad memory Smile
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