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simargl


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 19:21    Post subject:  alphaOS 7.0
Subject description: ArchPup continued
 

alphaos linux
Lightweight, portable and flexible operating system
based on Puppy Linux


News:
Latest version 7.0 was released 2013/05/22 with kernel 3.9.1-non-pae and will be actual for long time.
This OS is made to shine, but it does not have puppy package manager, jwm, rox and it was not
built by using woof, have that on your mind if you expect just one more Puppy, same as all the other
but made of packages with different extension. You can talk about your experience with this operating
system, ask questions and suggest new ideas by joining to official forum: http://alphaos.tuxfamily.org/forum

Features:
  • This operating system was built using packages from Arch Linux
  • Pacman is perfectly compatible and it is the default package manager
  • Init and other scripts are modified and simplified, Puppy specific code was removed
  • Uses openbox as window manager combined with dynamic menu update (pipe menu)
  • Standard iso image in under 105 MB
  • Comes with:
    File manager (SpaceFM),
    Simple text editor (l3afpad),
    PacmanXG graphical frontend for pacman,
    Audio and video players (DeadBeef and Gnome Mplayer),
    Sakura terminal,
    LXTask for managing tasks,
    Image and PDF viewers (GPicView and Evince),
    Simple Radio player written in YAD,
    Pwireless for connecting to wireless networks, and
    Grub4Dos which is an universal boot loader based on GNU GRUB.
  • Has support for all languages in additional (devel) SFS module
  • Desktop notifications handled through Canonical's on-screen-display notification agent, notify-OSD
  • Makesfs script can be used for downloading packages and compressing them as sfs module
  • Modular design makes it easy to add desired functionality

Homepage:
http://alphaos.tuxfamily.org/

Downloads:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/alphaos/files


What is different compared to standard Puppy?
  • openbox is window manager
  • uses pacman for installing applications
  • spacefm is file manager
  • can load 3 main and 20 additional sfs modules
  • supports only 3 modes: live (5); save file on usb flash (13); save file on hard disk drive (12)
  • uses file /etc/rc.conf for setting up: user variables, network and localization
  • /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit reduced to 250 lines (in Puppy is 890)
  • /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown in just 20 lines (in Puppy is 660)
  • /dev nodes are not static, they are created each time the system boots
  • automatic menu update, using openbox pipe menu feature
  • defining window_manager environment variable under /etc/profile.d
  • has only 20 desktop files in /usr/share/applications
  • desktop files use 64x64 icons
  • uses adrive (extra.sfs) and bdrive (desktop_*.sfs)
  • makesfs script for downloading packages and compressing them as sfs module




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PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 05:22    Post subject:  

How can you call that "from scratch" when you use ages-old code from Puppy? Confused
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 06:12    Post subject:  

... compiled from scratch. If you don't know what that means please visit link bellow.
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 06:23    Post subject:  

I get curious on if it make you automatically booted as root
what password does root have?
Can you place the files on NTFS and then boot without
needing any linux partition made like ext3 or ext4

what is the menu.lst for grub4dos used for your Lightnix 001

title Lightnix 001 Linux
kernel (hd0,0)/Lightnix001/vmlinuz PMEDIA=atahd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=Lightnix001 pfix=fsck
initrd (hd0,0)/Lightnix001/initrd.gz

or what do you use?

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 06:29    Post subject:  

Currently it looks like this:
Quote:
title lightnix RAM mode (sda6/lightnix)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /lightnix/initrd.gz
kernel /lightnix/vmlinuz psubdir=lightnix pmedia=atahd pfix=ram,fsck
initrd /lightnix/initrd.gz
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 08:25    Post subject:  

pfix=ram,fsck

would that mean you have a lightnix save file
and that you don't load it but still check the integrity of it?

Regardless I will test the OS when you have xorg and firefox or chrome going.

You did not answer if it boots with root=root password=lightnix
automatically or if it boot into user=user password=user
or user=live password=live

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 09:32    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
You did not answer if it boots with root=root password=lightnix
automatically or if it boot into user=user password=user
or user=live password=live

It boots without any password to tty1 as user root. But if change to tty2 you need to type
password, which by default is toor, just like in archpup because they are built with same rootfs.

And, thanks for your interest Razz
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 19:25    Post subject:  

Name is changed to Lightning OS, needs more work but currently system is functioning OK,
meaning that xorg with 3D support (tested with game assault cub), sound and internet all work.

Here is DISTRO_SPECS:
Quote:
DISTRO_NAME='Lightning OS'
DISTRO_VERSION='001'
DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT='none'
DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX='ltn'
DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION='none'
DISTRO_KERNEL_PET='3.8.2'
DISTRO_XORG_AUTO='yes'
DISTRO_TARGETARCH='i686'
DISTRO_IDSTRING='0001LGTN10032013XXXXXXXXXXXX1234'
DISTRO_PUPPYSFS='ltn_001.sfs'
DISTRO_ADRVSFS='adrv-*_001.sfs'
DISTRO_YDRVSFS='extra_001.sfs'
DISTRO_ZDRVSFS='zdrv_001.sfs'
DISTRO_PUPPYDATE='Mar 2013'
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Mar 2013, 20:18    Post subject:  

Do you have a download link? So we can have a look.
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 04:35    Post subject:  

seems somebody else?
also thought of that name?

Lightning OS
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lightning-OS/402616869818705

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 06:41    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
seems somebody else?
also thought of that name?

Lightning OS
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lightning-OS/402616869818705

Yes, you are right it is opensuse based distro with gnome 3.
So name is changed to .. .. Alpha OS! What do you think?

First post updated with more detailed explanations.
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 17:01    Post subject:  

I have one problem with mount command and different behavior in AlphaOS compared to Archpup.

Problem is with partition /dev/sda5, formatted as NTFS. With command:
Code:
mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
it is mounted read-write in Archpup but read-only in AlphaOS.

mount command is provided by package util-linux plus ntfs-3g and fuse are installed for supporting ntfs filesystem in both OS'.

Only way to get write access to ntfs partition in AlphaOS is mounting with command ntfs-3g.
... and I don't want that because it breaks earlier scripts that use just mount command for everything.

Edit: Never mind, I've adjusted scripts to check fstype before mounting...
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013, 07:03    Post subject:  

makepfile.sh, save file creator script from Archpup, made by me and much improved by mavrothal
(in his pre theoretical phase) is improved so it will read variables from /etc/distro_specs.
It's now usable in any Puppy linux, on the other hand does anyone really care...

Beta version of alphaOS Laughing will be available today!
Warning: It's not for the beginners!
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013, 10:19    Post subject:  

I hope it will boot up frugally on NTFS
unless it is impossible or very difficult
to provide that feature. Archpup does
so would it be possible to borrow how
they do it?
Just a friendly suggestion.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013, 11:21    Post subject:  

Iso is uploaded, check first post for the link.
nooby wrote:
I hope it will boot up frugally on NTFS
unless it is impossible or very difficult
to provide that feature. Archpup does
so would it be possible to borrow how
they do it?
Just a friendly suggestion.

Thanks for your suggestion.
I didn't test it but frugal installation on NTFS should work.
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