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npierce

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PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2013, 18:19    Post subject: Right-click support for clickpad  

Hi DaveS,

Oh good, I was hoping someone else with a clickpad would come along. I would be very happy if you would try out the following to add right-click support.

First, hide your .flSynclient file:
Code:
mv /root/.flSynclient /root/.flSynclient.hid

(If you didn't have that file, just ignore the "No such file or directory" message.)

Then make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and edit the original as follows:

Look for a section that begins like this:
Code:
Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
   Driver "synaptics"

There may or may not already be some options listed there.

Add this option before the EndSection line:
Code:
   Option "SoftButtonAreas"  "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"


Then restart the X server.

I don't have a clickpad and can't test it myself, so I'm hoping that you will be able to try this out.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2013, 20:37    Post subject:  

I made a driver so that wacom bamboo tablet can use slacko 5.5

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=705815#705815




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DaveS


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PostPosted: Tue 28 May 2013, 02:23    Post subject: Re: Right-click support for clickpad  

npierce wrote:
Hi DaveS,

Oh good, I was hoping someone else with a clickpad would come along. I would be very happy if you would try out the following to add right-click support.

First, hide your .flSynclient file:
Code:
mv /root/.flSynclient /root/.flSynclient.hid

(If you didn't have that file, just ignore the "No such file or directory" message.)

Then make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and edit the original as follows:

Look for a section that begins like this:
Code:
Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
   Driver "synaptics"

There may or may not already be some options listed there.

Add this option before the EndSection line:
Code:
   Option "SoftButtonAreas"  "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"


Then restart the X server.

I don't have a clickpad and can't test it myself, so I'm hoping that you will be able to try this out.

Thanks.

Thanks. If there is actually some hope I will persue this further. It seems that a fairly recent version of synaptics is reqd though. It also seems like it should be possible to activate via synclient "Clickpad=1"

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PostPosted: Tue 28 May 2013, 02:55    Post subject:  

Updating a 5.4 save file to 5.5 seems to break cups "internal server error"
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PostPosted: Tue 28 May 2013, 04:59    Post subject: sfs-load  

Unloading a qt4 sfs by sfs-load I messed up my slackosave. From backup I then used bootmanager and I had success. This bug could be related with:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86068

I use frugal install lightencrypted. The problem could be hardware-related but I haven't tested sfs-load on other laptops.

EDIT: I am not able to reproduce the malfunction.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 May 2013, 09:16    Post subject: Re: Right-click support for clickpad  

DaveS wrote:
It seems that a fairly recent version of synaptics is reqd though.

Yes. It requires version 1.6 of the synaptics module for X (synaptics_drv.so), which is now about a year old. It also requires version 1.12 of the X server, although the 1.11 version that was shipped with Ubuntu 12.04 was modified to include support for clickpads -- so Puppy Precise 5.5 does support clickpads.

I think Slacko 5.5 has version 1.12.3 of the X server, so that's good. I'm not sure what version of the synaptics module it has, but since that is newer than the X server shipped with Ubuntu over a year ago I am assuming that it is 1.6 or newer. If you want to know what versions you actually have, this command will give you a lot of information about the synaptics module loaded in your X server:
Code:
grep -A 1 -i synaptics /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less

You may also see a line that contains the phrase "found clickpad property". That would be a good sign.

DaveS wrote:
It also seems like it should be possible to activate via synclient "Clickpad=1"

Although "Clickpad" does have to be set to 1, it is my hope that this is done automatically when the driver detects the clickpad property. But the soft button area is not set automatically by the driver, and until you set it manually, or include it in xorg.conf, your clickpad will just be one giant left button.

DaveS wrote:
If there is actually some hope I will persue this further.

There is hope.

For a description of how markreaves got his clickpad working using Puppy Precise, see this thread:

Synaptics Touchpad no right click (FIXED)

If you decide to pursue this, please try the suggestion I posted above yesterday before trying the suggestions I made in the other thread. (And the part about hiding your .flSynclient file, if you have one, is important -- if you have one it probably has the soft button area properties all set to zero. One of the problems that markreaves encountered was that after restarting the X server the right button would work briefly, then the delayedrun script would launch /root/Startup/load-touchpad-settings, which zeroed-out the soft button area.)

The reason I ask you to try this without setting Clickpad=1 is that I am trying to determine a method for Puppy to have clickpad support right out of the box. Having Puppy execute synclient "Clickpad=1", or include that option in xorg.conf would break non-clickpad touchpads. I think that the driver will set it automatically when it detects a clickpad, but so far that is untested, as I have no clickpad.

If you decide to try this and would prefer to move this conversation out of this general bugs thread and into the other thread, that would be OK.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read through this long post.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 May 2013, 13:58    Post subject:  

Sadly no success. At the bottom of .flsynclient there is the following option:

Code:
Clickpad = 0


Setting the interger to 1 has enabled the left click button to work correctly, allowing things like drag and drop which I previously had to do by a fast double tap then drag.

Will research further

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PostPosted: Tue 28 May 2013, 15:00    Post subject:  

I have it working now, by setting the bottom of .flsynclient to look like this:

Code:
    ClickPad                = 1
   RightButtonAreaLeft     = 1600
   RightButtonAreaRight    = 0
   RightButtonAreaTop      = 500
   RightButtonAreaBottom   = 0

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PostPosted: Tue 28 May 2013, 22:39    Post subject: Re: Right-click support for clickpad  

Hi DaveS,

I am glad to see you got it working, The only thing I don't understand why there was anything at all in an .flSynclient file if you renamed it to .flSynclient.hid to prevent the load-touchpad-settings script from finding it and loading the old, obsolete values.

Anyway, as long as you eventually got it working, that's what counts. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 29 May 2013, 00:21    Post subject: Re: Right-click support for clickpad  

npierce wrote:
Hi DaveS,

I am glad to see you got it working, The only thing I don't understand why there was anything at all in an .flSynclient file if you renamed it to .flSynclient.hid to prevent the load-touchpad-settings script from finding it and loading the old, obsolete values.

Anyway, as long as you eventually got it working, that's what counts. Smile


Changing xorg.conf had no effect so I reinstated .flsynclient and added the extra lines myself.

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PostPosted: Wed 29 May 2013, 01:22    Post subject:  

npierce I found the problem. In your original post in this thread you left out this piece of code needed for xorg.conf

Code:
 Option "ClickPad"         "true"


When I added that it worked without .flsynclient

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PostPosted: Wed 29 May 2013, 07:32    Post subject:  

DaveS,

Thanks for looking into this further.

DaveS wrote:
Changing xorg.conf had no effect so I reinstated .flsynclient and added the extra lines myself.

OK. That explains it.

So it seems that the driver does not automatically set the "ClickPad" option when it finds that a clickpad is installed. That means that to get a clickpad working for Puppy without the need for the user to edit xorg.conf (or .flSynclient) it will be necessary for xorgwizard to detect the clickpad and add the required lines to xorg.conf. I had hoped that would not be necessary. Anyway, now I know.

Thanks for taking the time check this out.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jun 2013, 06:26    Post subject: alsawizard  

Running alsawizard for multiple sound cards corrupts my lightencrypted slackosave in my install. I checked it on two different laptops.

EDIT: after running alsawizard I must delete /etc/asound.conf and run retrovol to repair the install. Alsawizard for multiple sound cards doesn't work in my install.
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jun 2013, 13:11    Post subject: Re: Right-click support for clickpad  

DaveS,

I may have found a way for Puppy to easily detect a PC that has a clickpad installed, which is a step along the road towards getting a clickpad to work with Puppy without the need for the user to edit a configuration file.

If your little Acer with the clickpad is running, and if you have the time, could you please post the output of these two commands:
Code:
cat /sys/class/input/mouse*/device/name
cat /sys/class/input/mouse*/device/properties

This would allow me to verify how the properties data is formatted.
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jun 2013, 15:12    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
but the corruption problems on Ibiblio have been ongoing for way too long!

Are you suggesting that a file on ibiblio was "corrupted" and that it's corresponding md5 was also "corrupted"?

Should we have confidence in ibiblio? I've always thought it would be a great place for a hacker to work. (or am I just way too paranoid?)
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