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How fast is Puppy Linux?
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JamesTheAwesomeDude


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2013, 20:34    Post subject:  How fast is Puppy Linux?
Subject description: I want to know what boot times everybody's getting!		  
Hey, I just thought it might be interesting to see how fast Puppy boots up for everybody. Please include as many details as you can think of.
Start your stopwatch as soon as the BIOS (+grub) finish loading, and stop it as soon as the desktop is completely loaded (Wallpaper, taskbar, icons.)


I'll start:

Boot Time: 46 seconds.
Version: Slacko 5.4.
Installation type - Frugal, with 2 GB Heavily encrypted save.
RAM: 3 GB of RAM (+2 GB Swap on an internal HD.)
Processor: 3 GHz Pentium 4, multithreaded.
Boot Device: 4 GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive (SanDisk Cruzer Edge.)
SFS's: 1 (Gimp)
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alphadog


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Feb 2013, 15:16    Post subject:  
Here you go:-

Boot time = 18 secs (WOW!!)
OS =Wary 5.3 ( Full HDD Install)
RAM= 1Gb
Processor = Intel Core 2 Duo 6300 @1.86 GHz

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amigo

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Feb 2013, 15:36    Post subject:  
Boot time: 11 seconds
CPU: Pentium 4 2.00GHz
RAM: 512MB
OS: Linux kiss 3.0.21 KISS-5.0

Sorry, I couldn't resist -since I don't run Puppy...
It boots to CLI login in 6 seconds!
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jakfish

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Feb 2013, 16:49    Post subject:  
Are we working with the "true" boot time, meaning when you push the power button? Or are we doing the "feel good" one, from grub or the puppy menu?

Jake
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plankenstein


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Feb 2013, 18:32    Post subject:  
@ amigo,

I would like to check out this linux kiss that you're using, but can't seem to find any info on it. Could you direct me to a url with more info or a down load location?
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Feb 2013, 22:44    Post subject:  
It would be helpful to know whether it is a full vs. frugal install, hard drive installation vs. USB boot vs. CD/DVD.
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JamesTheAwesomeDude


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PostPosted: Sat 23 Feb 2013, 02:31    Post subject:  
jakfish wrote:
Are we working with the "true" boot time, meaning when you push the power button? Or are we doing the "feel good" one, from grub or the puppy menu?

Jake


I recommend doing the "feel good" one - it's actually more accurate for testing OS speed. As soon as the BIOS finishes, and the Grub screen (if you have one) is over, start your stopwatch. E.G., I have a bootable USB stick. I boot up, press F12, arrow down to "USB Device", then press enter and start the timer at the same time.
If you use another timing system - for example, starting the timer when you press power, mention that in the post.
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amigo

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Feb 2013, 02:59    Post subject:  
Yes, the 'feel good' is the only way to do a comparison between different machines -since the BIOS load-times will vary greatly from one box to another.
@plankenstein, KISS is not really ready fro prime-time as I have never yet built an installer. There are packages and sources here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/amigolinux/distro/kiss-4.0/
if you know how to shoe-horn them into a partition....
Hint, the 'tpkg' package format is actually just tar.xz archives.
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DPUP5520

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Feb 2013, 14:39    Post subject:  
Boot time: 17 seconds
CPU: AMD FX 8320
RAM: 8GB
OS: PupRescue Precise (5.4.3)

Boot time: 23 seconds
CPU: I-5 Quad Core
RAM: 3GB
OS: PupRescue Precise (5.4.3)
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 04:54    Post subject:  
Newer Puppy kernels have the printk.time=1 boot parameter compiled into the kernel and a
Code:
tail -n1 /tmp/bootkernel.log
shows [ 36.894621] seconds . The bootkernel.log file gets written by /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit . If I add xwin i am approximately at roundabout 1 minute since I added a test for
Code:
cat /proc/loadavg
to become lesser than 3 or otherwise sleep 2 seconds as
Code:
until [ "`cat /proc/loadavg | cut -f 1 -d '.'`" -lt '3' ];do echo -ne "\rWaiting for load average to drop below 3 :`cat /proc/loadavg` ";sleep 2s;done;echo  ###+++2011-11-30
and a test for
Code:
while [ "`pidof rc.services`" ] ; do echo -n '.. ' ; sleep 2 ; done ; echo
while [ "`pidof pup_event_backend_modprobe`" ] ; do echo -n '.. ' ; sleep 2 ; done ; echo

the programs that are loading additional drivers to finish .

I am running
Code:
lscpu
Architecture:          i686
CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:            Little Endian
CPU(s):                2
On-line CPU(s) list:   0,1
Thread(s) per core:    1
Core(s) per socket:    2
Socket(s):             1
NUMA node(s):          1
Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel

a Core2 @ 2.6 GHz, using the cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq drivers compiled as modules managed by the standard Puppy CPU Frequency Scaling Interface /usr/local/cpu-freq/cpu_freq , that uses a range from 1,6-2,6 GHz . RAM=4GB , PUPMODE=2(full install) .
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gameboyab


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 02:14    Post subject:  
Here's a low-end one.
1.6 GHz AMD Athlon 2000+
Slacko 5.4
Full Hard Disk install: 35 Seconds

CD boot-
Copy to RAM: 1:35
Don't copy to RAM: 1:56 Neutral
It's faster to copy to RAM than not?!
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nooby

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 04:36    Post subject:  
Lupu 528-005 frugal on NTFS HD with 630MB save file
took 45 seconds. Most of the time it spent with drivers.

I am experimenting with using no save file so that is adding to the boot time.
If one already have set up a save file then the boot goes faster
the script says Smile So I will test with both to see the difference

frugal on HD with Slacko and Lupu and HP AMD dual core
bought some 3 years ago?
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6502coder

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 22:50    Post subject: not bad for an ex-Win98 machine  
Wary 5.1.4.1 frugal
333 Mhz Pentium 2 laptop, 192 M ram, 512 M savefile
"feel good" boot time: 45 secs
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Wognath

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Mar 2013, 16:39    Post subject:  
Good idea for a topic! My data:

1.6GHz VIA Nano processor, 3 G ram
frugal HD installs in a Linux partition
Puppy 431 30 s
Precise 5.5 50 s
Windows XP awake from hibernation 14 s Sad

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In menu.lst I try to avoid searching, for example
Code:
kernel (hd0,2)/Precise/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda3 psubdir=Precise

So why does "Searching for Puppy files" still take Precise 8 s? (2 s in 431)
And why does Precise stay on black screen for over 15 s after "Starting X"?
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Mar 2013, 22:06    Post subject:  
Quote:
So why does "Searching for Puppy files" still take Precise 8 s? (2 s in 431)

Code change in initrd.gz . Helped me out in a special case i cannot remember right now anymore, where Puppy-4.3.1 failed to boot.
Some sleep delay was added i think for slow USB external drives
and probably by default now searches all detected partitions despite the entries in the kernel line. Try to boot without any psubdir and pdev1 entries if that makes a difference.
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