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ArchPup - First Puppy with pacman for installing apps
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stifiling
Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 388 |
well let's get the saving working first. so you don't have to keep redoing it. is the /etc/wvdial.conf...the only file that's not saving? or are none of your changes being saved. if none of your changes are being saved....you should probably create a new save file. cause the one u're using now's....not working. |
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stifiling
Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 388 |
that steam client is looking nice. wonder if netflix is easily installable. it's in the AUR, but i don't have a netflix account to test it with. |
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mavrothal
 Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 2971 |
With 132 approaching, one thing you may want to consider is if 132 could be applied as an update over 12.12 or if is going to work only with a fresh savefile. Archpup does not have an rc.update so may be tricky to remove installed user files/packages that may conflict with or just mask some of the 132 files. _________________ == Here is how to solve your Linux problems fast == |
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stifiling
Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 388 |
Barebones puppies are appearing to be on a rise. looks like the adrv was implemented not a minute too soon. they're not as popular as a full working environment iso, but still popular enough to want to target the audience. Very nice that ArchPup has both, for both audiences. |
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simargl
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Yes savefile must be created over, but it's possible to backup /root folder somewhere, then create new savefile and return /root with all settings back again. What ever rc.update tries to accomplish, I think it's impossible, with major version change only making new savefile is logical. |
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mavrothal
Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 2971 |
You may want to put that in bold letters on the next release announcement. (You may also want to consider an update path for the future. Does not make a lot of sense to be forced to start afresh with every new release. What rc.update tries to do is pretty evident. Just tries to protect critical files from being overwritten by savefile files.) _________________ == Here is how to solve your Linux problems fast == |
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simargl
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Is savefile from Puppy Linux based on Ubuntu 10 compatible with one based on Ubuntu 12? I guess not. Well this is similar change, using the same file is off course wrong; unless you didn't install any package... So savefile from 12.12 is compatible to 12.12.2, but not with 132  and cannot be,.
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mavrothal
Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 2971 |
I think that 2 years is a bit longer than 2 months... but beyond that, I would think that would be easier to update in arch with pacman. Basically if DISTRO_SPECS is different in initrd and savefile you check if packages have been installed in the savefile/var/pacman/... and compare with the ones in the new archpup version. If different version, remove them or copy over the new distro ones. The only other thing you want is to make sure is that critical /etc/ files are not overwritten by the savefile version. But if you think that is too much trouble or not an important function, never-mind. _________________ == Here is how to solve your Linux problems fast == |
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simargl
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Anyone have seen this distro? http://live.linux-gamers.net/...based on ArchLinux and Iso size is 4.4Gig.
So what do you think about ArchPup gamers edition  Something like 700 MB iso image with games only. It shouldn't be too hard to
make - only replace archapps_132.sfs with new one made out of repacked Arch games packages. If someone is interested to work on this send me PM and I will set you access to sourceforge mirror. Not bad idea I think |
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stifiling
Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 388 |
that sounds like a good idea sim, but shouldn't the distro be more user friendly first before 'spins' and 'twists' are added? it's still presently for geeks, and ppl who are 'determined' to use it. there's still reasons for an average user to say, "this is just too hard." this is why i haven't done the xfce yet. to keep the focus on 'one' thing. the original archpup.iso until it's rock, concrete, solid...and most of these hardware complaints and lil errors, etc.....disappear. pakwarung is a brand new user. and he should have only had maybe 1 question. instead though...he has about 5. "how to get my modem working? how to change the screen resolution? how to set the time? my settings aren't saving..." pakwarung chose to create an account (which is a headache) and ask questions. the other 100 ppl.....didn't. So yes, as friendly as it is, it's still not friendly enough...and that 'should' be the first goal. |
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ciento
Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 214 |
How about .sfs files for each large game, so un-needed resource hungry depencencies are not loaded? And smaller games bundled together in genre specific .sfs? puzzle platform racing 2D shooter etc Games-distro are a good idea. For musicians, the basic pacman repo has qjackctl, dssi, calf, zynaddsubfx, hydrogen, qtractor and ardour, and audacity, installing about 8 synthesizers, a dozen+ fx, a drum machine, connections gui, a pair of DAWs, and an audio editor. Which works. seps at the AUR, maintains a vast array of other multimedia apps and dependencies. 
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pakwarung
Joined: 25 Jan 2013 Posts: 8 |
yes it is true... i have headache to make archpup working with my modem [searching google a lot of time] so maybe why ubuntu have a goal is free cd ,user friendly interface, many user on it, if many people using it probably make a lot of tutorial on internet... so newbie problem is done... |
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mavrothal
Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 2971 |
I would tend to agree with this, but then I realize that Archpup is 90%+ Arch with 10%- puppy. The terminal, the IDE editor and the knowledge of the inner workings of the system is your friend! Looking at the numbers you see 12.12.2 has over 4000 downloads and still only one new "questioner". You can also see that archapps has ~400 downloads and archdev ~200. These "data" suggest a) that Archpup is indeed downloaded and used by seasoned Arch/Linux users that know how to handle this minimal Arch version b) that is downloaded by people that saw the reviews in some other sites (the weekly national distribution and the "spikes" are indicative), downloaded gave it a spin and then abandoned it. Given that was downloaded mostly in linux systems, I want to believe that is "a". If the response to 132 is equally "warm", this assumption is probably true, if not then "puppyfying" Archpup a bit more should be considered. 
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dennis-slacko531
 Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 103 Location: Oregon |
My incredibly insignificant website has a good feeling. Plus, my links are showing interest too... The site's embarrassing. 
Nonetheless, they're rising. www.LNUX.com |
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Scooby
Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 601 |
Is this a BIOS option? How can this be checked? I dont think this was the cause because it was during a long hacking session. I was there all the time. Anyway I cant reproduce. About the future of archpup I need a lot of firmware supported out of the box. Getting net should be easy. I want a window manager at start or at the last very clear cookbook instructions how to get one onto my system I don't want a lot of apps at start. That I think is up to the user to test like me with battery monitor. I dont think it should be on system from start. For example I didnt like the spaceFM so I probably will try to re-install thunar with 132 Not a problem really. What was the problem with Thunar anyway, never understood it? |
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A bit too much for me 
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