Italian language pack (OLD)

[xanad]

Ciao L18L, I think (but I'm not sure) that Alsaconf and Grub4Dos have the same problem inside slacko. Alsaconf not exist and Grub4Dos is blocked in MoMa....I need change my installation and re-install precise 571..

Anyhow, you found a bug and fixed it!

Yeah! This nite 'festa grande'....

[xanad]

Arghhh! Too many words for a few concepts....the difference is like a cup of American coffee and an Italian espresso. Is always coffee!

bootflash : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
bootmanager : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
puppyinstaller : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

langpack_it-20140415 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
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@vicmz
@L18L

QUESTION TIME: 'A doubt'
Now I have installed in my PC these distros:
slacko 560
precise 571jp
precise 570
lucid 528
What of these versions is indicated for the langpack? (there are many differences)

[vicmz]

QUESTION TIME: 'A doubt'
Now I have installed in my PC these distros:
slacko 560
precise 571jp
precise 570
lucid 528
What of these versions is indicated for the langpack? (there are many differences)

Precise 5.7.1 for Woof2 puppies. Slacko 5.7 for Woof-CE ideally in a separate langpack_woofce_it, the good news is that for this one you just have to install the current langpack and update the scripts that are different from Woof2.

[vicmz]

langpack_it-20140415 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

Added Abiword and CUPS translations (Momanager doesn't put them into the langpack). The modified pet is on the first page.

[xanad]

Ok, I dropped slacko560, and came back to precise571

[xanad]

Ciao vicmz, there are some problems....
- firefox27 for now is only for slacko (it's missing in precise)
- from the last langpack some menu 'voices' are also missing (langpack_it-20140410.pet is ok)
- frontend_funcs also missing (put manually)
- gparted_shell also missing (put manually)

Then, I think, some files (not in MoMa) must be inserted manually every time .... abiword and cups too

thinking about how to insert it automatically

reflection: slacko is more 'precise' than precise

[xanad]

gparted_shell : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
pburn : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
xorgwizard-cli : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

P.S.: gparted_shell and pburn are different (slacko --> precise)

then, the previous langpack + firefox27 +
Wallpaper: usr/local/apps/Wallpaper/locale
wallpaper italian : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
is good for slacko560 langpack (570 next time) and without Puppy wallpaper setter.

When you added the new gparted_shell and pburn, start the precise571 langpack

All the rest is ok

[vicmz]

Ciao Xanad

gparted_shell and pburn are different (slacko --> precise)

then, the previous langpack + firefox27 +
Wallpaper: usr/local/apps/Wallpaper/locale
wallpaper italian : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
is good for slacko560 langpack (570 next time) and without Puppy wallpaper setter.

When you added the new gparted_shell and pburn, start the precise571 langpack

All the rest is ok

That's why I'm now maintaining separate langpacks for Woof2 puppies (Precise, Wary, Racy, Retro-Precise, derivatives) and for Woof-CE puppies (Slacko, FluxPup, derivatives). This means that I boot Slacko 5.7 to make langpack_woofce_es, and Precise 5.7.1 to make langpack_es. How about a langpack_woofce_it separate from langpack_it? Of course, Momanager can adapt existing translations to the puppy you're running, so you don't need to start from the beginning to adapt the langpack to Slacko.

[L18L]

some files (not in MoMa) must be inserted manually every time .... abiword and cups too

thinking about how to insert it automatically

Just put them into /usr/share/doc/langpack-template
which could be a link to /mnt/home/langpack-template
and you can use it for several puppies...
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I have been trying to create mo files for woof and woof-ce
Not sure if you like it that way
If you translate the fuzzy messages then
look to the end of the po file.
There are
#~ msgid "hello".
#~ msgstr "Hallo".
These are no more valid in the actual (woof-ce) script,
I had changed them back to (it is one search... replace in geany)
msgid "hello".
msgstr "Hallo".
So they stay valid and the file can be used in woof and woof-ce.

vicmz's way appears to be easier....

[xanad]

@vicmz
@L18L

ok, i think so:
separated langpacks is better, for now I take care of translating precise and after I change the fuzzies for slacko,,,, is just what you say L18L, the differences are only the fuzzies

For the 'indipendents' files from MoMa, when I have figured out what they are all, we will see how to do it.

Happy Easter!

[xanad]

alsaconf : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
alsawizard : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
burniso2cd : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
cdburner-wizard : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
cups_shell : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
dotpup : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
glipper_shell : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
gnome-mplayer : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
multiple_soundcard : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
puppydownload : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
pupscan : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
resizepfile : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

sss:
desk_strings : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
initrd_strings : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
script_strings : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

langpack_it-20140422 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

Mesdames et Messieurs, un peu de plaisir. Aujourd'hui est né

RoboPup-571_precise (wide-screen)



RoboPup-571_precise : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

[xanad]

Hi Vicmz I see your new langpack, but I don't understood the differences.
Mine is 2727 k and your is 2526. It is compiled directly from MoMa, if there are more files then I must edit it manually again? Now I work only with precise like you
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Here are another suggestions in case you don't know what to translate next:
puppyinstaller
bootmanager
alsaconf
bootflash
grub4dos
frugalinstaller
OCI

puppyinstaller --> OK
bootmanager --> OK
alsaconf --> OK
bootflash --> OK
grub4dos --> not works in moma (in slacko570 too),,,, @ please L18L help me
frugalinstaller --> not in precise (at the end)
OCI --> not in precise (at the end)

At today 163 apps translated....the show must go on!
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PS: I started also the langpack for slacko570...
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NB: please delete firefox27 from first page (works only with slacko560, for now)
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C'è un puppy in italiano basato sul Precise 5.7.1
Anche c'è Slack-it (Slacko 5.6 in italiano)
Anche vedi il site e forum Puppy Linux in italiano

C'è un puppy in italiano basato sul Precise 5.7.1 --> the link for the iso is down....

[L18L]

....the show must go on!

I could not resist the temptation to try translating wbar!

Copied /root/.wbar to /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.wbar
Changed line from
c: rox /usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
to
c: rox /usr/share/locale/${LANG%_*}/LC_MESSAGES

Appended

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[_root_.wbar]
s%t: Home%t: %
s%t: Console%t: %
s%t: documenti%t: %
s%t: traduzioni%t: %
s%t: win7%t: %
s%t: Browse%t: %
s%t: amule%t: %
s%t: incoming%t: %
s%t: Edit%t: %
s%t: Play%t: %
s%t: Write%t: %
s%t: Calc%t: %
s%t: X%t: %
s%t: riavvia%t: %
s%t: stop%t: %

to /usr/share/sss/menu_strings/menu_strings
and the same to my /usr/share/sss/menu_strings/menu_strings.de
translated:

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s%t: traduzioni%t: Übersetzungen%

...and next version (0.7) of setLanguage (has been uploaded now) was working

[vicmz]

Hi Vicmz I see your new langpack, but I don't understood the differences.
Mine is 2727 k and your is 2526. It is compiled directly from MoMa, if there are more files then I must edit it manually again? Now I work only with precise like you

Sorry, I forgot to post about it. The differences are the usual stuff, Abiword and CUPS translations missing, a bunch of HTML help files that aren't translated so no need to include them.

puppyinstaller --> OK
bootmanager --> OK
alsaconf --> OK
bootflash --> OK
grub4dos --> not works in moma (in slacko570 too),,,, @ please L18L help me
frugalinstaller --> not in precise (at the end)
OCI --> not in precise (at the end)

The last two ones have to be installed to translate them.
frugalinstaller is here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57711
OCI is here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=89050

There are many Puppy apps that are usually not included in the official builds, but they are actually included in some versions and derivatives, or installed separately by users. For example the Peasy apps http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84490

Of course these are only ideas on where to continue. The best translations are those made taking enough time to read and analyse.

It's amazing how the langpack has grown.

[vicmz]

....the show must go on!

I could not resist the temptation to try translating wbar!

Copied /root/.wbar to /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.wbar
Changed line from
c: rox /usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
to
c: rox /usr/share/locale/${LANG%_*}/LC_MESSAGES

Appended

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[_root_.wbar]
s%t: Home%t: %
s%t: Console%t: %
s%t: documenti%t: %
s%t: traduzioni%t: %
s%t: win7%t: %
s%t: Browse%t: %
s%t: amule%t: %
s%t: incoming%t: %
s%t: Edit%t: %
s%t: Play%t: %
s%t: Write%t: %
s%t: Calc%t: %
s%t: X%t: %
s%t: riavvia%t: %
s%t: stop%t: %

to /usr/share/sss/menu_strings/menu_strings
and the same to my /usr/share/sss/menu_strings/menu_strings.de
translated:

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s%t: traduzioni%t: Übersetzungen%

...and next version (0.7) of setLanguage (has been uploaded now) was working

Can this be applied to a wbar pet? Most wbar pets on the forum have translations for the configuration GUI but the text in the bar itself remains in English (meaning that after installing you have to edit each icon text manually to translate).

[L18L]

Can this be applied to a wbar pet? Most wbar pets on the forum have translations for the configuration GUI but the text in the bar itself remains in English (meaning that after installing you have to edit each icon text manually to translate).

After thinking long time about this idea I have come to the conclusion:
No, wbars are too different and individual and there is no standard xdg/template and never will be.

But I have made version 1.0
Using this you can translate using wbar-config in different languages.
..and see texts in different (translated by yourself) languages.
Simply added

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if [ -f $HOME/.wbar ]; then #140430
 #echo "cp $HOME/.wbar $HOME/.wbar-${old_LANG}"
 cp $HOME/.wbar $HOME/.wbar-${old_LANG}
 kill `ps | grep wbar$ | grep -v grep | cut -d' ' -f1`
 #echo "cp $HOME/.wbar-${new_LANG} $HOME/.wbar #140429"
 cp $HOME/.wbar-${new_LANG} $HOME/.wbar #140429
 wbar &
fi

to the script.
See version 1.0 please.
Thus translations are independant of any langpack...

[xanad]

Hi L18L, I tried an another solution....

wbar.po https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
wbar_gui.po https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

wbar.mo : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
wbar_gui.mo : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

[L18L]

Hi xanad,

your translation of wbar.po should also be sent to the owner of wbar
http://code.google.com/u/warlock.cc/. There is only de es and fi for now.

He will be happy to have it too I think.

[xanad]

Ahahaahahah

edit,
debug
and
finished
the
essay

Sent to warlock, thanks for the advice

[xanad]

Just for fun:

amule : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

@L18L:
grub4dosconfig don't works in MoMa (precise571,slacko570 too)....solution?