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stifiling

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 14:01    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
I need Broadcom Drivers for ArchPup 12.12.2. If there were drivers built-in, they're not supporting my wifi device.


did you try:

Code:
modprobe b43
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 14:29    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
(BTW the archdev link in the first post is broken. Points to a 12.12.2 file)

Surprised Fixed. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 14:46    Post subject:  

mav, you're not overjoyed about the adrv idea are you? you don't feel as if the points brought up, as the reasons for using it, are strong points?

If the adrive idea were to be 'scratched'. How would we get this distro to appeal to Arch Linux users, who might not want some of those uninstallable default applications? they could mksquashfs themselves another sfs file, to get the apps out, but.........they've never heard of that before. that's a Puppy Linux thing, and...a lot of puppy linux users have never even heard of it before either.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 14:55    Post subject: touchpad  

I have no success with touchpad and install of xf86-input-synaptics

Is some synaptics module already installed?

with nothing installed from repo

Code:
modprobe -D synaptics_i2c


produces

insmod /lib/modules/3.6.8/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-core.ko
insmod /lib/modules/3.6.8/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics_i2c.ko


seems like driver is already in use?

I have tried to configure with synclient and with config files 10-synaptics.conf, 50-synaptics.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

I also tried modifying xorg.conf but then x woldnt start.

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 15:17    Post subject:  

stifiling wrote:
mav, you're not overjoyed about the adrv idea are you? you don't feel as if the points brought up, as the reasons for using it, are strong points?.


Actually, you are totally wrong Surprised
I love the adrv idea. What I do not like is to have an ISO distribution that is not really usable without installing any packages.
That's why I opposed adrv with just a desktop/WM.
That's why I developed ydrv so the archapps sfs can be auto-loaded and included in the ISO.

Now about those hard core Arch users... Are you seriously targeting these guys with Archpup?... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 15:19    Post subject:  

stifiling wrote:
did you try:

Code:
modprobe b43


Yes, but still no luck.

EDIT: When are going to start supplying .delta files for ArchPup?

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 15:22    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
stifiling wrote:
did you try:

Code:
modprobe b43


Yes, but still no luck.


If you are trying to use Pwireless2 suggest you edit /etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG to put b43 into the 'addlist' (don't forget the spaces) and reboot....

This is what I have to do....

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 15:34    Post subject:  

That didn't work either. I think the b43 module doesn't support my device. Somebody could compile a better b43 module though.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 15:48    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
Now about those hard core Arch users... Are you seriously targeting these guys with Archpup?... Rolling Eyes


Absolutely so, and here's the reasons why:
A portable Linux on a USB Drive is very useful.
Archpup puts Arch Linux on a USB stick and runs in ram.
Archpup is faster, and smaller than Arch Linux and better suited for a 2gb, or another USB drive.
I can have that USB Drive formatted to ntfs, and not ext2 or ext3. To look at pictures, and listen to mp3s on my buddies Windows computer, and listen to those mp3s on his Windows System using Windows Media Player....and have my portable Arch Linux on it also.
After seeing how many gaps it's filled from the USB standpoint...no reason to not have my desktop and laptop on the same page. So instead of having Puppy Linux on my USB Drive (Puppy is light years better than Arch in this area), and Arch Linux on my Desktop (Arch might be preferred by many in this area, because it doesn't come with an uninstallable PMusic app or a brain-wrecking hard to compile and install XBMC)...I can use Archpup for both.

So when they see...."Arch Linux on USB...no reformating, no PMusic, no PBurn, and no dog icons all throughout the system". It has a huge chance, much better than before...to attract their attention.

Based on that comment though....this is probably an audience we'd be better off just ignoring, right?

If there's a better solution it a be nice to hear, but presently it's sounding like the solution is to "just ignore them".
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 16:26    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
That didn't work either. I think the b43 module doesn't support my device. Somebody could compile a better b43 module though.


I've tried compiling the Broadcom wl driver - it compiles OK - but doesn't load properly to create wlan0 and doesn't generate any error messages to give clues why not - so I'm currently stumped.

Does dmesg show any errors for you?

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 16:38    Post subject:  

@bark_bark_bark

Is directory /lib/firmware/b43 present on your archpup? I copied it from Slacko531 for my device (though, it may be included in the latest archpup).

Can you report the chipset of your device? You can use hardinfo to get this information (or at least the name of the product), click on the USB/PCI/other option depending on the device type.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 16:45    Post subject:  

yes, but b43 is a folder (if that is what you want to know). I know almost nothing about it. All I know is that it is a Broadcom device. Neither lina-lite 005 or ArchPup 12.12.2 has hardinfo (and that are all the puppies I have).


EDIT: Chipset is BCM4313

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 17:04    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
yes, but b43 is a folder (if that is what you want to know). I know almost nothing about it. All I know is that it is a Broadcom device. Neither lina-lite 005 or ArchPup 12.12.2 has hardinfo (and that are all the puppies I have).


EDIT: Chipset is BCM4313


this should be a step in the right direction towards getting it compiled and working:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/broadcom-wl/
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 17:12    Post subject:  

[quote="stifiling"]
mavrothal wrote:

Based on that comment though....this is probably an audience we'd be better off just ignoring, right?

If there's a better solution it a be nice to hear, but presently it's sounding like the solution is to "just ignore them".


I said it from the beginning, is your baby.
And if you want to offer a no-apps ISO so Arch users will customize their sticks, while the rest will just pass (without even a GUI package manager), is your choice.
I just never figured out why the picky Arch users can not just skip the apps SFSs if included?... But that's probably because I'm not an Arch user.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 17:20    Post subject:  

@bark_bark_bark

directory = folder. looks like you need the module brcmsmac
and the firmware directory /lib/firmware/brcm

EDIT:
Reference-

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211
http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless#brcmsmac.2Fbrcmfmac

A) first installing firmware, may be try one the pets here if not present in archpup-
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76495

B) use the command
modprobe brcmsmac

C) you can see your network devices using command
ifconfig

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