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Wine used far more than 17 MB of lupusave.2fs
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silverojo


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PostPosted: Thu 13 Dec 2012, 04:16    Post subject:  Wine used far more than 17 MB of lupusave.2fs  

I have a frugal installation of Puppy 5.1, in a 512 MB lupusave.2fs file.

Quickpet says that Wine only requires 17 MB of space. But when I installed it, it devoured 100 MB of space! Wine is working great, but why is it taking so much space? I don't want to increase the size of lupusave.2fs, because I like keeping a backup of that file on CD (I have an old computer), and CD's can't hold more than 750-800 MB of data.

Any help would be appreciated.

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muggins

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PostPosted: Thu 13 Dec 2012, 04:52    Post subject:  

Any windows program you install will be added to the hidden directory /root/.wine, which is within your save_file.

Solution: drag /root/.wine to /mnt/home, then symlink it back to /root directory.

Code:
ln -s /mnt/home/.wine /root
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silverojo


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PostPosted: Thu 13 Dec 2012, 07:01    Post subject:  

muggins wrote:
Any windows program you install will be added to the hidden directory /root/.wine, which is within your save_file.

I'm confused, so I'll ask a couple follow-up questions, if I may.

I haven't installed any Windows programs. I just opened the folder /mnt/home/Program Files (equivalent to C:\Program Files in my Windows 98SE directory structure), and clicked on a few programs I installed in Windows years ago, and wanted to use while running Linux. Only a few of them actually worked in Wine...I wasn't too surprised when none of the Microsoft programs worked, LOL.

After reading your post, I looked in the /root/.wine folder and subfolders and I did find some files there, but there is nowhere near 100 MB of stuff in those folders. I have "show hidden files" selected by default, but maybe there are things that I'm nevertheless unable to see.

muggins wrote:
Solution: drag /root/.wine to /mnt/home, then symlink it back to /root directory.

Code:
ln -s /mnt/home/.wine /root

When I drag /root/.wine to /mnt/home as you suggest, I'm given the usual 4 options: Copy, Move, Link (relative), Link (absolute). Which of these should I choose? Because I don't know if you're asking me to move the folder or just create a link--and if the latter, should I choose relative or absolute?

Then, when creating the symlink in /root--again, do I select relative or absolute? (Since I rarely use the command line, I like to know how to do this in the GUI.)

Sorry for the noob questions...even though I've used Puppy for years, my life is so insanely busy that I haven't had time to study Puppy as much as I would love to.

Thanks again for your prompt answer, and thanks in advance for answering my follow-up questions.

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* PC: Firelite 1200 D
* RAM: 512 MB
* CPU: AMD Duron, 892 MHz
* HD: Maxtor 2F030J0
* CD-RW: Atapi CD-R/RW CW078D
* MONITOR: Compaq 5500
* SOUND CARD: SiS 7018 Wave
* ETHERNET: Network Everywhere (NC100 v2)
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Jasper


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PostPosted: Thu 13 Dec 2012, 08:05    Post subject:  

Hi,

(1) When you drag the .wine folder from /root to /mnt/home
select "move".
(2) When you drag the folder back from /mnt/home to /root
select "absolute" (or relative) link.
(3) From time to time make a copy of your /mnt/home/.wine
folder, because you will cease to have a "save file" copy.

My regards

Also you could see how big your other wine folder is (the
one without the dot that is not a hidden folder). Use Pfind
(probably Menu>FileSystem>Pfind then type wine, then
search). You could also move that folder to /mnt/home and
then link that back to its original location.

If you should at some time again run short of save file
space you could probably do a similar thing with your
browser folders.

Personally, I would first, make a new folder in /mnt/home
and name it links - then I could move all folders to be linked
into that folder, so that that they are all in one place and
it will be easy to backup that "links" folder.

Note:

This advice is only for frugal Puppy installations, though it
may be adapted for multisession CD/DVD use.
I have Wine installations and exe files installed/stored
(by design) in other locations of my choice.

As regards the size - perhaps the download is compressed?
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silverojo


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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 00:04    Post subject:  

Thanks for clarifying!

I tried using Pfind (I normally use Searchmonkey), but it kept locking up and hanging, so it was no use.

I do back up my frugal installs every so often, so that if I mess up something, I can just reinstall the version that worked. I'll definitely do that before I start tinkering around, making symlinks--just in case I do something wrong.

I'll be curious to see how much space is freed up by doing what you suggest. Maybe the Wine file is compressed too...I'll find out soon enough!

Thanks again...I'll check back if I have any more questions.

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MY PC's SPECS:

* PC: Firelite 1200 D
* RAM: 512 MB
* CPU: AMD Duron, 892 MHz
* HD: Maxtor 2F030J0
* CD-RW: Atapi CD-R/RW CW078D
* MONITOR: Compaq 5500
* SOUND CARD: SiS 7018 Wave
* ETHERNET: Network Everywhere (NC100 v2)
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8-bit


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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 01:51    Post subject:  

If you want to find out the size of the hidden .wine directory, just click on the EYE in the rox header to show hidden files.
Then right-click on the .wine directory and select properties.
You should get a windows that shows among other things, the size of that directory and it's contents.
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Jasper


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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 05:22    Post subject:  

Hi again,

The second wine folder is probably at /root/.usr/lib.

I moved my wine file from there and then linked it back -
mine is 83 MB.

My regards
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muggins

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 06:02    Post subject:  

Also consider whether your browser is eating up your save_file. With firefox/seamonkey check the size of /root/.mozilla. In firefox you can set your cache to some minimal size via
Edit>Preferences>Advanced>Network>limit cache to ....

Menu>Filesystem>Gdmap is a good tool for displaying a graphical indication of directories/files.

See this thread for some more ideas.
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silverojo


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2012, 00:48    Post subject:  

OK, I'll try to answer everybody at once. Smile

* 8-bit, I have the hidden files visible by default already, but thanks!

* Jasper, that info was helpful--I found that folder, and mine is about 77 MB. I'll have to do that move-and-link trick. I've just been insanely busy the last few days, but I'll get to it!

* muggins, thanks for the advice, but I already do that. I also clear my cache, old versions of bookmarks, etc. I also clear out the hidden cookies that flash games and the like put in my .macromedia folder. But I'll definitely check out that thread to see if there's anything I'm not doing yet.

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MY PC's SPECS:

* PC: Firelite 1200 D
* RAM: 512 MB
* CPU: AMD Duron, 892 MHz
* HD: Maxtor 2F030J0
* CD-RW: Atapi CD-R/RW CW078D
* MONITOR: Compaq 5500
* SOUND CARD: SiS 7018 Wave
* ETHERNET: Network Everywhere (NC100 v2)
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