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icake

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2019, 00:22    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: LibertineBox_5.7.4.1 Chinese language pets
 

ninotix updated an iso on Jul 18, 2019 called LibertineBox_5.7.4.1.ios originally released on Dec 14, 2015 based on an updated version of Precise 5.7.2 with 3.9.11 pae kernel

More information:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=876834#876834

Download iso:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gljvxf4WtRENyMpnmtE3r8hN5IRcCnRr/view?usp=sharing

I have created 6 half-Chinese language pets for LibertineBox_5.7.4.1:
fcitx Chinese input platform:
fcitx_4.2.7-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (24.6 mb)

scim Chinese input platform:
scim_1.4.9-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (22.1 mb)

yong Chinese input platform:
yong3264_4.2.0-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (8.6 mb)
yong3264_th_2016.11.5-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (7.9 mb)
yong3264_thjj_2016.7.29-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (8.4 mb)
yong3264_thth_2014.8.5-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (9.5 mb)

Plus 2 Chinese language pets for LibertineBox_5.7.4.1:
Simplified Chinese:
libertinebox-5.7.4.1-zhcn-12.0.0.pet (3.2 mb)

Traditional Chinese:
libertinebox-5.7.4.1-zhhk-12.0.0.pet (2.7 mb)

To use:
(a) any 1 of the 6 half-Chinese language pets will enable you to display and input Chinese in LibertineBox_5.7.4.1

(b) the version corresponding Chinese language pets will give you Simplified Chinese or Traditional Chinese menus, icon labels, tooltips for LibertineBox_5.7.4.1

for more information about the fcitx and scim pets, please see posting dated Feb 19, 2015 on page 15 of this subject
for more information about the yong pets, please see posting dated Dec 31, 2016 on page 25 of this subject

All these half-Chinese and Chinese language pets are now available for download from the public sharing folders. Please see the first posting for download addresses.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2019, 17:20    Post subject:  

hi icake

would consider making a yong package (.sfs) for BionicDog??
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Oct 2019, 05:17    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: yong packs for Bionic Dog
 

I tried to install my yong pets to Bionic Dog but ran into some technical difficulties. I then searched the web and discovered that you can install the yong input method under the Debian system using established Debian/yong tools. There are plenty of examples on the web about how to do it. Here are 3 examples:

http://www.excel-jiqiao.com/subject/yihrottx.html
http://www.mintos.org/skill/xiaoxiao-input.html
http://yong.dgod.net/read.php?tid=6&fid=7

Hope that these are helpful.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Oct 2019, 17:52    Post subject: read Far East languages in Puppy  

I am looking for one font (each language Chinese simp./trad., Korean and Japanese if not possible to cover the need with one unique font for all three languages) as well as pinyin with the accents/strokes/dots on the vowels (as used in the most pedagogic book for Chinese!)

if possible in brush style or near that style

(as foreign learners often uses brush to learn those tongues and can better recognize the strokes and chars this way as if the style is more different Exclamation )

and so tiny it can be considered coming for Puppy Rolling Eyes

as *.pet / *.sfs.

is that available somewhere?
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Oct 2019, 18:59    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: CJK fonts
 

The icake language pets use wqy-mircrohei.ttf fonts. I know it can handle both Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese but not sure whether it supports Japanese or Korean characters. After a quick search on the web, my view is Pan-CJK or fonts-ttf-wqy-microhei has the best chances to satisfy your needs.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Oct 2019, 19:35    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: pupbionic64 8.0 Chinese language pets
 

stemsee wrote:
hi icake

would consider making a yong package (.sfs) for BionicDog??


Stemsee, if you are referring to bionicpup (rather than bionic dog, which is a debian release), I have made Chinese language pets for the bionicpup32 bit before. Please see my post dated May 31, 2019 on page 37 for more details. Here are the ones for bionicpup64:

666philb has released BionicPup64 8.0 on Sep 18, 2018

More information and forum discussions:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311

Download:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-bionic/

I have created 6 half-Chinese language pets for BionicPup64 8.0 :

fcitx Chinese input platform:
fcitx64_4.2.9-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (30 mb)

scim Chinese input platform:
scim64_1.4.14-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (23 mb)

yong Chinese input platform:
yong3264_4.2.0-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (8.6 mb)
yong3264_th_2016.11.5-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (7.9 mb)
yong3264_thjj_2016.7.29-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (8.4 mb)
yong3264_thth_2014.8.5-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (9.5 mb)

Plus 2 Chinese language pets for BionicPup64 8.0:
Simplified Chinese:
bionicpup64-8.0-zhcn-18.0.0.pet (3.7 mb)

Traditional Chinese:
bionicpup64-8.0-zhhk-18.0.0.pet (3.6 mb)

To use:
(a) any 1 of the 6 half-Chinese language pets will enable you to display and input Chinese in BionicPup64 8.0

(b) the Chinese language pets will give you Simplified Chinese or Traditional Chinese menus, icon labels, tooltips for BionicPup64 8.0

for more information about the fcitx64 4.2.9 pet, please see postings dated Feb 4 and 12, 2015 on page 15 of this subject
for more information about the scim64 1.4.14 pet, please see postings dated Feb 6 and 13, 2015 on page 15 of this subject
for more information about the yong pets, please see posting dated Dec 31, 2016 on page 25 of this subject

All these half-Chinese and Chinese language pets are now available for download from the public sharing folders. Please see the first posting for download addresses.

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Oct 2019, 15:54    Post subject:  

Hi icake

I meant debian'dog' or any of the dogs by fredx, saintless, etp etc!
I tried to install using apt-get but I was not able to invoke the input method even though the tray and menu were there!

thanks for trying though. I will do some other research too.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Oct 2019, 16:44    Post subject: Re: Chinese language pets
Subject description: pupbionic64 8.0 Chinese language pets
 

icake wrote:
The icake language pets use wqy-mircrohei.ttf fonts. I know it can handle both Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese but not sure whether it supports Japanese or Korean characters. After a quick search on the web, my view is Pan-CJK or fonts-ttf-wqy-microhei has the best chances to satisfy your needs.


A great "thank you very much" (it will make my Puppy remasters a lot more easy!!!)

icake wrote:

fcitx Chinese input platform:
fcitx_4.2.9-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (30 mb)

scim Chinese input platform:
scim_1.4.14-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (23 mb)

yong Chinese input platform:
yong3264_4.2.0-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (8.6 mb)
yong3264_th_2016.11.5-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (7.9 mb)
yong3264_thjj_2016.7.29-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (8.4 mb)
yong3264_thth_2014.8.5-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (9.5 mb)


To simplify my work, as I write only a bit in far east languages (more to learn them)

and perhaps are more puppyist's in that situation

I use online in my lovely browser (*1 the wonderful site

https://www.inputking.com/

and can forget all the stress to install, set up and care the formal usage difficulties of far east input methods Laughing Rolling Eyes Idea

the only (little) stress is at the side of Linux and Puppy Linux (not able to add them in the list of proposed keyboards (beahbeahbeahbeahbeah Puppy linux! is really poor performance of all developers!)):

add the keyboard layout

US INTL !

but

Code:
# setxkbmap us intl


works in about all linux distros (*2 ! Hurrah!

excepted in the Chinese one: Deepin ! Really fun as it is the international most known Chinese Linux! In Deepin, if you start with or add US INTL using setxkbmap, as soon you use the official deepin integrated console or the official deepin integrated file manager, the setting of us intl is lerased and you have reenter in the console and reactivate the setxkbmap us int command through CTRL or ALT F2 followed by CURSOR UP and enter plus CTRL or ALT F2 to quit the automatic console mode (Proverbe of Deepin: «In Deepin you can do all things in console mode!» and it is true Wink )

(*1 to make it permanent in Puppy: open the page, start the input king editor page after selecting the mode. close the browser with the option "save it before to close" and remaster Puppy with a copy of /root/.mozilla in it Rolling Eyes

(*2 so crowned by the input specialist inputking as the most performant keyboard layout at all: it is the standard in inputking and offers support for about all European or the most Latin keyboards plus Chinese pinyin and transcriptions chars using for ex. dots under the signs or chars! But,... it is not offered in the list of keyboard in Puppy able to be taken inconsideration in remasterings etc. using the front ends for those settings...
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:42    Post subject: Re: Chinese language pets
Subject description: pupbionic64 8.0 Chinese language pets
 

oui wrote:
icake wrote:
The icake language pets use wqy-mircrohei.ttf fonts. I know it can handle both Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese but not sure whether it supports Japanese or Korean characters. After a quick search on the web, my view is Pan-CJK or fonts-ttf-wqy-microhei has the best chances to satisfy your needs.


A great "thank you very much" (it will make my Puppy remasters a lot more easy!!!)

icake wrote:

fcitx Chinese input platform:
fcitx_4.2.9-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (30 mb)

scim Chinese input platform:
scim_1.4.14-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (23 mb)

yong Chinese input platform:
yong3264_4.2.0-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (8.6 mb)
yong3264_th_2016.11.5-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (7.9 mb)
yong3264_thjj_2016.7.29-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (8.4 mb)
yong3264_thth_2014.8.5-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (9.5 mb)


To simplify my work, as I write only a bit in far east languages (more to learn them)

and perhaps are more puppyist's in that situation

I use online in my lovely browser (*1 the wonderful site

https://www.inputking.com/

and can forget all the stress to install, set up and care the formal usage difficulties of far east input methods Laughing Rolling Eyes Idea

the only (little) stress is at the side of Linux and Puppy Linux (not able to add them in the list of proposed keyboards (beahbeahbeahbeahbeah Puppy linux! is really poor performance of all developers!)):

add the keyboard layout

US INTL !

but

Code:
# setxkbmap us intl


works in about all linux distros (*2 ! Hurrah!

excepted in the Chinese one: Deepin ! Really fun as it is the international most known Chinese Linux! In Deepin, if you start with or add US INTL using setxkbmap, as soon you use the official deepin integrated console or the official deepin integrated file manager, the setting of us intl is lerased and you have reenter in the console and reactivate the setxkbmap us int command through CTRL or ALT F2 followed by CURSOR UP and enter plus CTRL or ALT F2 to quit the automatic console mode (Proverbe of Deepin: «In Deepin you can do all things in console mode!» and it is true Wink )

(*1 to make it permanent in Puppy: open the page, start the input king editor page after selecting the mode. close the browser with the option "save it before to close" and remaster Puppy with a copy of /root/.mozilla in it Rolling Eyes

(*2 so crowned by the input specialist inputking as the most performant keyboard layout at all: it is the standard in inputking and offers support for about all European or the most Latin keyboards plus Chinese pinyin and transcriptions chars using for ex. dots under the signs or chars! But,... it is not offered in the list of keyboard in Puppy able to be taken inconsideration in remasterings etc. using the front ends for those settings...

trans_tray graphical frontend for google, bing and Yandex translation has a comprehensive keyboard layout selector with many variations. Try it!
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2019, 13:08    Post subject: Re: Chinese language pets
Subject description: pupbionic64 8.0 Chinese language pets
 

stemsee wrote:
trans_tray graphical frontend for google, bing and Yandex translation has a comprehensive keyboard layout selector with many variations. Try it!


Yes, see here ! (shamelessly promoting.... Embarassed Wink )
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=116981

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2019, 18:16    Post subject:  

Thank you very much Fred! It also works in the extremely tiny wary64-6.99 after load of yad-0.40-amd64.pet!

a bit tedious is the use of the roll down languages / keyboard selectors instead of the usual entries in the old xorg.conf ! but, as German people say: why easy if possible to make difficult!

can that be entered in a text file?

comparaison:

- better in the online editor of inputking : you can use your spell check
- better in the little editor of trans: you have a save key for saving the text (but not the settings?)

----- google translate to Dutch -----
Heel erg bedankt Fred! Het werkt ook in de uiterst kleine omzichtig64-6.99 na belasting van yad-0.40-amd64.pet!

een beetje vervelend is het gebruik van de roll-down talen / toetsenbordkiezers in plaats van de gebruikelijke vermeldingen in de oude xorg.conf! maar, zoals Duitse mensen zeggen: waarom gemakkelijk indien mogelijk moeilijk te maken!

kan dat in een tekstbestand worden ingevoerd?

Ter vergelijking:

- beter in de online editor van invoer: u kunt uw spellingcontrole gebruiken
- beter in de kleine editor van trans: je hebt een sleutel om de tekst op te slaan (maar niet de instellingen?)
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2019, 20:17    Post subject:  

but it pretty also work in Deepin (actual system) see the 2 red points on the desktop.

installation? rename *.pet into *.gz and decompress the included file system and copy it on the Deepin file system. "trans" and trans_tray can be invoqued through ALT+2 and entering those name in the field on the top of the beautiful deepin app's manager. right mouse key will show an invitation to add to the start of Deepin. All it easy and fast to do with rox (rox is intalled in my deepin and work pretty, see 5th icon from left Laughing ).

trans will miss in Deepin the 2 dependencies. Install it with aptitude!

after that, youo can use trans in Deepin Rolling Eyes

see the printscreen (I did add the communistic background picture Wink )!
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Oct 2019, 10:18    Post subject:  

oui wrote:

a bit tedious is the use of the roll down languages / keyboard selectors instead of the usual entries in the old xorg.conf !
you can use ctrl+f to search in language / keyboard selectors
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Oct 2019, 14:12    Post subject:  

hm, are all PC user today idiots only able to roll down selectors (else if with help of a search option) Rolling Eyes

hm, I like deepin and it's devise

«all can be done in commando line!»

ALT+F2 in deepin

and you accede to the commando line (the REAL Linux Level!!!)

egal at which time of process

and can forget all the DIALOGS needing only by the windowers spoiling linux!
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Oct 2019, 20:18    Post subject: Chinese Language Pets
Subject description: bionicpup 64 bit Chinese language pets
 

I found 2 mistakes in the previous posting about bionicpup64 bit Chinese language pet dated Oct 6, 2019.

The correct names of the fcitx and scim pets for bionicpup64 should be:

fcitx64_4.2.9-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (30 mb) and

scim64_1.4.14-en-zh-bionic-18.0.0.pet (23 mb)

2 "64" were missing in the original posting and are now fixed.
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