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holocen

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012, 19:49    Post_subject:  XP after Puppy
Sub_title: Problem with post-Windows installation
 

I instaled slacko-5.4-opera-4g.iso. My problem is how to install XP back to my old computer? I tried many times but I cant boot xp from dvd. Please help or provide me link to tutorial. As far as I read, problem is with GRUB.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012, 20:49    Post_subject:  

Hello, holocen.

Poor man... May I offer my condolences. Very Happy

Once you've crossed the Puppy line, it's so compelling, you can't go back to any other OS. You knew that, didn't you ? Laughing

BFN.

musher0

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chrome307


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 05:00    Post_subject:  

You could try this to erase your HDD completely

DBAN 2.2.7 Beta for CD-R and DVD-R media.

(Burn this file to a blank disc and boot the computer with it. Do not unzip this file.)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/files/dban/dban-2.2.7/dban-2.2.7_i586.iso/download
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 06:23    Post_subject:  

"old computer"

What brand motherboard or is it a brand desktop or laptop?

Dell ..HP..etc.

Can't get into the bios and change Boot order?

Pressing >> Delete key repeatedly on initial booting is
the most common....otherwise F2.

"""""""

You don't need DBan....it is a boot order thing.

And if you have a brand PC you will ruin any hidden partitions
using DBan.

Nothing wrong with DBan...but it is deadly.

No data recovery after using it.

"""""""

Please report back with your specs.

On the Puppy forum you are still allowed XP mate.

"""""""""

The following is the same for an XP cd......

" We next need to make sure that the computer knows to look to
the CD drive first for a bootable operating system before it checks
the hard drive, otherwise this LiveCD will never be recognized
by the computer.

When you start up your PC, take note of the text that flashes on
the screen, and look for something that says

"Press [some key] to enter setup"

or

"Press [some key] to enter startup."

Usually, the key you want will be F2, or the Delete or Escape (Esc) key.

When you figure out what key you need to press,
press it repeatedly until the system BIOS screen is displayed.

Your mouse will not work here, so you'll need to rely on
your keyboard.

Look at the menu options at the top of the screen, and you should
notice a menu named "Boot".

Hit the "right arrow" key until you've reached that screen
listing your bootable devices.

What you want to do here is move the CD-Rom/DVD Drive to the
top of the list.

Do this by selecting the down-arrow key until the CD-Rom option
is highlighted, and then
press the "+" key on your keyboard until the CD-Rom option is
at the top.

Then hit the F10 key, and confirm "yes" when asked if you want to
save changes and exit, and the computer should reboot.

If you'd done this step correctly, the computer should detect the CD image you just burned as a bootable operating system.

[Unless you know what you're doing here, it's important not to
make any other changes in the BIOS settings.

If you accidentally do make a change that you want to undo,
hit F10, and select the option "Exit without saving changes.
" The computer will reboot, and you can try this step again.]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/10/e-banking_on_a_locked_down_non.html

""""""

BIOS Setup Utility Access Keys for Popular Computer Systems

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/a/biosaccess_pc.htm

BIOS Setup Utility Access Keys for Popular Motherboards

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/a/biosaccess_mb.htm

BIOS Setup Utility Access Keys for Major BIOS Manufacturers

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/a/biosaccess_bios.htm

Chris.
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holocen

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 07:16    Post_subject:  

The bios enter key in my case is DEL, and boot option key is F8. This computer cannot boot from usb, when I set dvd boot first from bios computer show me message:"cannot boot, please select proper boot device". I wont stop using Puppy, but usb is quite enough. I need good, simple linux for online banking and this is perfect solution. I want to install xp to enable file sharing between XP and 7, its much harder to do so . It seems that my only option is to use DBAN, Il try it tonight. Thank you, folks.
Computer
********


Summary
-------

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz
Memory : 254MB (55MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 11 Dec 2012 10:50:34 AM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5960) x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL DRI2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2
Audio Adapter : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse
Power Button
Sleep Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA Maxtor 6Y080L0
ASUS DVD-E616P
TEAC CD-532E

Operating System
----------------

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.2.33-4g (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Fri Nov 2 20:42:54 EST 2012
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc29652
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-Misc-
Uptime : 3 minutes
Load Average : 0.88, 0.80, 0.36

Kernel Modules
--------------

-Loaded Modules-
mperf
snd_cs4236 : Cirrus Logic CS4232-9
8139cp : RealTek RTL-8139C+ series 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver
snd_mpu401 : MPU-401 UART
8139too : RealTek RTL-8139 Fast Ethernet driver
snd_wavefront : Turtle Beach Wavefront
snd_wss_lib : Routines for control of CS4231(A)/CS4232/InterWave &amp; compatible chips
snd_mpu401_uart : Routines for control of MPU-401 in UART mode
snd_opl3_lib : Routines for control of AdLib FM cards (OPL2/OPL3/OPL4 chips)
snd_hwdep : Hardware dependent layer
snd_seq_dummy : ALSA sequencer MIDI-through client
snd_seq_oss : OSS-compatible sequencer module
squashfs : squashfs 4.0, a compressed read-only filesystem
radeon : ATI Radeon
snd_seq_midi : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture sequencer MIDI synth.
snd_seq_midi_event : MIDI byte &lt;-&gt; sequencer event coder
aufs : aufs -- Advanced multi layered unification filesystem
i2c_algo_bit : I2C-Bus bit-banging algorithm
ttm : TTM memory manager subsystem (for DRM device)
fuse : Filesystem in Userspace
snd_rawmidi : Midlevel RawMidi code for ALSA.
drm_kms_helper : DRM KMS helper
snd_intel8x0 : Intel 82801AA,82901AB,i810,i820,i830,i840,i845,MX440; SiS 7012; Ali 5455
drm : DRM shared core routines
snd_ac97_codec : Universal interface for Audio Codec &apos;97
snd_pcm_oss : PCM OSS emulation for ALSA.
pcspkr : PC Speaker beeper driver
snd_mixer_oss : Mixer OSS emulation for ALSA.
snd_seq : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture sequencer.
snd_pcm : Midlevel PCM code for ALSA.
snd_seq_device : ALSA sequencer device management
sg : SCSI generic (sg) driver
snd_page_alloc : Memory allocator for ALSA system.
snd_timer : ALSA timer interface
ac97_bus
i2c_i801 : I801 SMBus driver
i2c_core : I2C-Bus main module
snd : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture driver for soundcards.
soundcore : Core sound module
intel_agp
intel_gtt
agpgart : AGP GART driver
shpchp : Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver
ppdev
parport_pc : PC-style parallel port driver
parport
evdev : Input driver event char devices
processor : ACPI Processor Driver
thermal_sys : Generic thermal management sysfs support
button : ACPI Button Driver
hwmon : hardware monitoring sysfs/class support
floppy

Boots
-----

-Boots-

Languages
---------

-Available Languages-
en_US : English locale for the USA

Filesystems
-----------

-Mounted File Systems-
rootfs / 5.98 % (70.5 GiB of 75.0 GiB)
/dev/root / 5.98 % (70.5 GiB of 75.0 GiB)
shmfs /dev/shm 0.00 % (60.1 MiB of 60.1 MiB)

Display
-------

-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Version : 1.12.3
-Monitors-
Monitor 0 : 1024x768 pixels
-Extensions-
BIG-REQUESTS
Composite
DAMAGE
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
DRI2
GLX
Generic Event Extension
MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
MIT-SHM
RANDR
RECORD
RENDER
SGI-GLX
SHAPE
SYNC
X-Resource
XC-MISC
XFIXES
XFree86-VidModeExtension
XINERAMA
XInputExtension
XKEYBOARD
XTEST
XVideo
XVideo-MotionCompensation
-OpenGL-
Vendor : Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
Renderer : Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5960) x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL DRI2
Version : 1.3 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering : Yes

Environment Variables
---------------------

-Environment Variables-
HOSTNAME : puppypc29652
XDG_DATA_HOME : /root/.local/share
TERM : xterm
SHELL : /bin/bash
HISTSIZE : 1000
QT_XFT : true
APPNAMECAP : Sys-Info
DEFAULTDRAW : inkscapelite
APPTITLE : Lighthouse System Information
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME : /usr/lib/seamonkey
XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS : 1
APPNAME : sys-info
USER : root
HISTFILESIZE : 2000
LD_LIBRARY_PATH : /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/X11R7/lib:/root/my-applications/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib/seamonkey
MAIN_DIALOG : <window title="Sys-Info Lighthouse System Information 1.4.2" icon-name="sys-info" allow-shrink="true" width-request="760" height-request="480">

Users
-----

-Users-
root : root
daemon
nobody
spot : Linux User
bin : bin
messagebus : Linux User
ftp : Linux User
haldaemon : Hardware abstraction layer
uucp : uucp
sshd : sshd
webuser : Linux User
fido : Linux User

Devices
*******


Processor
---------

-Processor-
Name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz
Family, model, stepping : 15, 2, 7 (Pentium 4)
Vendor : Intel
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 128kb
Frequency : 2004.64MHz
BogoMIPS : 4010.32
Byte Order : Little Endian
-Features-
FDIV Bug : no
HLT Bug : no
F00F Bug : no
Coma Bug : no
Has FPU : yes
-Cache-
Cache information not available
-Capabilities-
fpu : Floating Point Unit
vme : Virtual 86 Mode Extension
de : Debug Extensions - I/O breakpoints
pse : Page Size Extensions (4MB pages)
tsc : Time Stamp Counter and RDTSC instruction
msr : Model Specific Registers
pae : Physical Address Extensions
mce : Machine Check Architeture
cx8 : CMPXCHG8 instruction
apic : Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller
sep : Fast System Call (SYSENTER/SYSEXIT)
mtrr : Memory Type Range Registers
pge : Page Global Enable
mca : Machine Check Architecture
cmov : Conditional Move instruction
pat : Page Attribute Table
pse36 : 36bit Page Size Extensions
clflush : Cache Line Flush instruction
dts : Debug Store
acpi : Thermal Monitor and Software Controlled Clock
mmx : MMX technology
fxsr : FXSAVE and FXRSTOR instructions
sse : SSE instructions
sse2 : SSE2 (WNI) instructions
ss : Self Snoop
ht : HyperThreading
tm : Thermal Monitor
pbe : Pending Break Enable
up : smp kernel running on up
pebs : Precise-Event Based Sampling
bts : Branch Trace Store
cid : Context ID

Memory
------

-Memory-
Total Memory : 254240 kB
Free Memory : 158852 kB
Buffers : 4748 kB
Cached : 52168 kB
Cached Swap : 0 kB
Active : 37752 kB
Inactive : 41132 kB
Active(anon) : 21964 kB
Inactive(anon) : 2272 kB
Active(file) : 15788 kB
Inactive(file) : 38860 kB
Unevictable : 0 kB
Mlocked : 0 kB
High Memory : 0 kB
Free High Memory : 0 kB
Low Memory : 254240 kB
Free Low Memory : 158852 kB
Virtual Memory : 124924 kB
Free Virtual Memory : 124924 kB
Dirty : 88 kB
Writeback : 0 kB
AnonPages : 21960 kB
Mapped : 19440 kB
Shmem : 2272 kB
Slab : 8656 kB
SReclaimable : 3844 kB
SUnreclaim : 4812 kB
KernelStack : 512 kB
PageTables : 572 kB
NFS_Unstable : 0 kB
Bounce : 0 kB
WritebackTmp : 0 kB
CommitLimit : 252044 kB
Committed_AS : 57184 kB
VmallocTotal : 770104 kB
VmallocUsed : 5348 kB
VmallocChunk : 760644 kB
DirectMap4k : 24512 kB
DirectMap4M : 237568 kB

PCI Devices
-----------

-PCI Devices-
Host bridge : Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge
PCI bridge : Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge
PCI bridge : Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge
ISA bridge : Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge
IDE interface : Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller
USB Controller : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1
SMBus : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller
USB Controller : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1
Multimedia audio controller : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
VGA compatible controller : ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
Display controller : ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
Ethernet controller : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
Communication controller : Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k HSFi Modem

USB Devices
-----------

-USB Devices-
-UHCI Host Controller-
-UHCI Host Controller-

Printers
--------

-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>

Battery
-------

-No batteries-
No batteries found on this system

Sensors
-------


Input Devices
-------------

-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse
Power Button
Sleep Button
Power Button
PC Speaker

Storage
-------

-SCSI Disks-
ATA Maxtor 6Y080L0
ASUS DVD-E616P
TEAC CD-532E

DMI
---

-BIOS-
Date : 10/17/2002
Vendor : American Megatrends Inc. (www.ami.com)
Version : V1.4
-Board-
Name : MS-6566
Vendor : Micro-Star Inc.

Resources
---------

-I/O Ports-
<tt>0000-001f </tt> : dma1
<tt>0020-0021 </tt> : pic1
<tt>0040-0043 </tt> : timer0
<tt>0050-0053 </tt> : timer1
<tt>0060-0060 </tt> : keyboard
<tt>0064-0064 </tt> : keyboard
<tt>0070-0071 </tt> : rtc0
<tt>0080-008f </tt> : dma page reg
<tt>00a0-00a1 </tt> : pic2
<tt>00c0-00df </tt> : dma2
<tt>00f0-00ff </tt> : fpu
<tt>0170-0177 </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller
<tt> 0170-0177 </tt> : ata_piix
<tt>01f0-01f7 </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller
<tt> 01f0-01f7 </tt> : ata_piix
<tt>02f8-02ff </tt> : serial
<tt>0330-0331 </tt> : MPU401 UART
<tt>0376-0376 </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller
<tt> 0376-0376 </tt> : ata_piix
<tt>0378-037a </tt> : parport0
<tt>037b-037f </tt> : parport0
<tt>03c0-03df </tt> : vga+
<tt>03f2-03f2 </tt> : floppy
<tt>03f4-03f5 </tt> : floppy
<tt>03f6-03f6 </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller
<tt> 03f6-03f6 </tt> : ata_piix
<tt>03f7-03f7 </tt> : floppy
<tt>03f8-03ff </tt> : serial
<tt>0800-0803 </tt> : ACPI PM1a_EVT_BLK
<tt>0804-0805 </tt> : ACPI PM1a_CNT_BLK
<tt>0808-080b </tt> : ACPI PM_TMR
<tt>0810-0815 </tt> : ACPI CPU throttle
<tt>0820-0820 </tt> : ACPI PM2_CNT_BLK
<tt>0828-082b </tt> : ACPI GPE0_BLK
<tt>082c-082f </tt> : ACPI GPE1_BLK
<tt>0c00-0c0f </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller
<tt>0cf8-0cff </tt> : PCI conf1
<tt>9000-9fff </tt> : PCI Bus 0000:01
<tt> 9800-98ff </tt> : ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
<tt>a000-afff </tt> : PCI Bus 0000:03
<tt> a800-a807 </tt> : Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k HSFi Modem
<tt> ac00-acff </tt> : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
<tt> ac00-acff </tt> : RealTek RTL-8139 Fast Ethernet driver
<tt>d000-d01f </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1
<tt> d000-d01f </tt> : uhci_hcd
<tt>d400-d41f </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1
<tt> d400-d41f </tt> : uhci_hcd
<tt>d800-d83f </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
<tt> d800-d83f </tt> : Intel 82801BA-ICH2
<tt>dc00-dcff </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
<tt> dc00-dcff </tt> : Intel 82801BA-ICH2
<tt>fc00-fc0f </tt> : Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller
<tt> fc00-fc0f </tt> : ata_piix
-Memory-
<tt>00000000-0000ffff </tt> : reserved
<tt>00010000-0009fbff </tt> : System RAM
<tt>0009fc00-0009ffff </tt> : reserved
<tt>000a0000-000bffff </tt> : Video RAM area
<tt>000c0000-000ccfff </tt> : Video ROM
<tt>000f0000-000fffff </tt> : reserved
<tt> 000f0000-000fffff </tt> : System ROM
<tt>00100000-0ffeffff </tt> : System RAM
<tt> 01000000-0134cf50 </tt> : Kernel code
<tt> 0134cf51-014b337f </tt> : Kernel data
<tt> 01528000-0155efff </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt>0fff0000-0fff7fff </tt> : ACPI Tables
<tt>0fff8000-0fffffff </tt> : ACPI Non-volatile Storage
<tt>bf800000-df9fffff </tt> : PCI Bus 0000:01
<tt> c8000000-cfffffff </tt> : ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
<tt> d0000000-d7ffffff </tt> : ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
<tt>dfa00000-dfafffff </tt> : PCI Bus 0000:03
<tt>dfc00000-dfdfffff </tt> : PCI Bus 0000:01
<tt> dfdc0000-dfddffff </tt> : ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
<tt> dfde0000-dfdeffff </tt> : ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
<tt> dfdf0000-dfdfffff </tt> : ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
<tt>dfe00000-dfefffff </tt> : PCI Bus 0000:03
<tt> dfec0000-dfedffff </tt> : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
<tt> dfee0000-dfeeffff </tt> : Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k HSFi Modem
<tt> dfefff00-dfefffff </tt> : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
<tt> dfefff00-dfefffff </tt> : RealTek RTL-8139 Fast Ethernet driver
<tt>e0000000-e3ffffff </tt> : Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge
<tt>fec00000-fec00fff </tt> : reserved
<tt> fec00000-fec003ff </tt> : IOAPIC 0
<tt>fee00000-fee00fff </tt> : Local APIC
<tt> fee00000-fee00fff </tt> : reserved
<tt>ffb00000-ffbfffff </tt> : reserved
<tt>fff00000-ffffffff </tt> : reserved
-DMA-
<tt> 2</tt> : floppy
<tt> 4</tt> : cascade

Network
*******


Interfaces
----------

-Network Interfaces-
lo 0.00MiB 0.00MiB 127.0.0.1
eth0 0.00MiB 0.00MiB 192.168.1.6

IP Connections
--------------

-Connections-
127.0.0.1:631 LISTEN 0.0.0.0:* tcp
192.168.1.6:52135 TIME_WAIT 198.61.150.28:80 tcp
0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:* udp

Routing Table
-------------

-IP routing table-
0.0.0.0 / 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG eth0
127.0.0.0 / 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U lo
192.168.1.0 / 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U eth0

ARP Table
---------

-ARP Table-
192.168.1.1 b4:82:fe:a1:c3:18 eth0

DNS Servers
-----------

-Name servers-
192.168.1.1

Statistics
----------

-IP-
9 : Total packets received
2 : With invalid addresses
0 : Incoming packets discarded
0 : Incoming packets discarded
7 : Incoming packets delivered
13 : Requests sent out
-ICMP-
0 : ICMP messages failed
0 : ICMP messages failed
0 : ICMP messages failed
0 : ICMP messages failed
-TCP-
2 : Active connections openings
0 : Bad segments received.
1 : Resets sent
0 : Bad segments received.
0 : Bad segments received.
6 : Segments received
8 : Segments send out
0 : Bad segments received.
0 : Bad segments received.
1 : Resets sent
-UDP-
1 : Packets received
0 : Send buffer errors
0 : Send buffer errors
5 : Packets sent
0 : Send buffer errors
0 : Send buffer errors
-UDPLITE-
-TCPEXT-
1 : Acknowledgments not containing data payload received
1 : Acknowledgments not containing data payload received
-IPEXT-

Shared Directories
------------------

-SAMBA-
-NFS-
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 07:33    Post_subject:  

How about using Plop Boot Manager?

http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html

It can downloaded as an *.ISO to be burnt to CD or as a image file to be written to a floppy disk.
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