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For android 4.2, dev options is now hidden. To activate, you click "about tablet" in settings, and then click "build number" 7 times. Very strange....

Don`t you just love proprietary O.S.s? Weeners, OSx, Android... Next?

It`s like programming with many of the languages and GUI kits. You never know what they`ll do to you next.
But you can be assured that it will be in their best interests (change for the sake of change ) and not yours.

I`ve always been for "fixing" things. Like Linux and it`s apps., the apps. big time, and what a mess it is!
And a language with simple to understand and use command syntax that`s closely coupled to a GUI kit.
To avoid having to chase what another group is doing ( GTK+ ) the GUI kit needs to be built new also.

sunburnt wrote:Don`t you just love proprietary O.S.s? Weeners, OSx, Android... Next?

Intuit expects mobile versions of it's software to be up by 50% next year. F5 networks analysts predict that by 2020, 71% of all computing work done by individuals will be "mobile" or "web-based". PC revenue this year fell by 23%. Mobile applications "are getting more sophisticated all the time." Trend are increasingly moving "away from desktops and laptops."

Time to learn a new language? My vote is in for android, and I haven't had to compile anything yet (you won't need to worry about static apps).

android is not a language. The android interface is built on java, which is a language.

amigo; Yes, if I understand correctly Android`s an O.S.


I was not dissing Android as such, I`ve been looking into it myself.
I agree that Android is most likely the platform of choice ( iPad? ).
I assume most Android apps. are Java? I`ve written a few apps. and applets.

I saw a tablet propped up on a table and thought of a wireless key. and mouse.
Then on Yahoo a video of a guy walking into work with a tablet,
props it up on the desk, pulls out a key. and mouse and goes to work.
I thought... Now that`s the future! A device that can do both jobs in one.

I was looking at what`s available in programming tools and IDEs.

### Do you have any suggestions???
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Who said android was a language?

Eclipse works nicely.

sunburnt wrote: I saw a tablet propped up on a table and thought of a wireless key. and mouse.
Then on Yahoo a video of a guy walking into work with a tablet,
props it up on the desk, pulls out a key. and mouse and goes to work.
I thought... Now that`s the future! A device that can do both jobs in one.

.

Are you talking about this one?:

http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad ... mer_TF101/

Thanks jpeps, I`ll look into it.

clarf; It`s so hard to tell one tablet from another, it was a Yahoo video.

Excellent beginner's tutorial:

http://developer.android.com/training/b ... index.html

Very useful: "Android Application Development All-in-One For Dummies", by Barry Burd. Barry will actually correspond with you by email or chat, particularly if you're willing to try out some code.

sunburnt wrote:
I saw a tablet propped up on a table and thought of a wireless key. and mouse.
Then on Yahoo a video of a guy walking into work with a tablet,
props it up on the desk, pulls out a key. and mouse and goes to work.
I thought... Now that`s the future! A device that can do both jobs in one.



### Do you have any suggestions???
.

No way I could work that way, right now I have so much going on that I had to install multiple desktops on the win 7 box at work. Even with that capability, I still need two large displays so function effectively. I do see this as conceptually possible with the continuing availability of cross-platform apps, you might just be able to do all of your work without having the company telling you what platform you have to work on

linuxbear wrote:
No way I could work that way, right now I have so much going on that I had to install multiple desktops on the win 7 box at work. Even with that capability, I still need two large displays so function effectively. I do see this as conceptually possible with the continuing availability of cross-platform apps, you might just be able to do all of your work without having the company telling you what platform you have to work on

Combine the rapid improvement of business apps, the need for mobility, and micro$ jacking up its licensing fees. I've already become adjusted to how much database activity can be done on something like an ipod touch.

I did an elective at my local college on Android development, and learned exactly why I don't care for android.

Linux programming all the way

NeroVance wrote:I did an elective at my local college on Android development, and learned exactly why I don't care for android.

Linux programming all the way

...great, unless you want to program your android device.

Exactly why Puppy on a Android device would be great.
Or even better, a puppy distro especially for smartphones and tablets so Android can be gotten rid of completely.
I have never been 100% comfortable with googles stuff.

Dave_G wrote:Exactly why Puppy on a Android device would be great.
Or even better, a puppy distro especially for smartphones and tablets so Android can be gotten rid of completely.
I have never been 100% comfortable with googles stuff.

right...and you're immediately going to have 600,000 working apps that run on all devices, with adaptable layouts for screen sizes that works smoothly with all the latest hardware. Why not just root your device and install puppy today?

jpeps wrote:

Why not just root your device and install puppy today?

Is there are Puppy port for ARM that I don't know about which runs on these devices?

Dave_G wrote:

jpeps wrote:

Why not just root your device and install puppy today?

Is there are Puppy port for ARM that I don't know about which runs on these devices?

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM

Aha, great stuff, thank you.

jpeps; I like the idea of what you`ve said.
But isn`t Puppy as a mouse driven interface not really suited for a touch screen?
So much is small buttons and lists and menus to select from.
Unless the tablet was equipped with a stylus Puppy doesn`t seem compatible.

Wouldn`t a rework of Puppy`s GUIs be in order to make this a reality?
And then there`s still the Linux apps. themselves... More rework?

Yes, there's a lot to consider, both for the OS working with the hardware and the software adapting to it. Android programming keeps moving activities off and on the stack as different screen layouts take immediate focus. The programmer includes a number of activities (only one can be active at a time), each with their own layout (the user interface). There's also the issue of screen sizes, where the programmer uses a "fragment" class to arrange widgets based on the available screen space.

Ubuntu has an overlay that rides on top of android, but doesn't use the device's hardware. That might be the closest you'll get to running puppy on an android device.

edit: Found this regarding touchscreen support:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchscreen