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#196 Post by jacatone »

Does anyone know if this is the latest version of lina-lite and does it use the XFCE desktop environment? Thanks.

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#197 Post by rg66 »

Yes, this is the latest version of lina-lite and it uses XFCE-4.10 desktop.
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#198 Post by don570 »

audacity audio editor 1.3.12 static works with wav ogg mp3 files
on lina-lite without the need to add more software.

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Testing Lina Lite

#199 Post by sszindian »

Finally getting around to testing Lina Lite!

I first must say... 'it is a very impressive and fast Puppy.'

Although a barebones distro, it was easy enough to install all the needed programs from the package manager (some from elswhere) to get things going the way I want them.

Now...firefox ERS 17.0.6 that comes with Lina-05... very clear and displays graphics and text really nice, it has some short-comings... r/h Slider Bar sometimes refuses to move the page although the mouse wheel overrides that. Page changes to another by itself at times, haven't found a cure for that, maybe firefox-20 or 21 regular build would be a better choice? Installed Seamonkey-17 from the package manager and that works nice with NO problems.

Slideshow-01 (an oldie but goodie) from the Puppy Forum installs and runs very nice in Lina (changed to look at my Pictures Folder) as does my little Cloud.pet. Would be nice to see support for fd0, Jamimiah didn't see much need for it in Saluki... I believe she made a mistake,

As I've been working with Lina, the thought came to mind what a nice 'Rolling Release' this little Puppy would make... just a thought!

Keep up the good work guys you have a winner here!!!

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#200 Post by rg66 »

Unfortunately as with carolina, lite will only run up to the 17 series firefox. That's why the ESR (extended support release) was chosen, it should be maintained for at least a year.
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Lina Lite 005

#201 Post by sszindian »

Still testing on Lina Lite, adding lots of what I want a program to do... it continues to be an amazing puppy and may well be my 'main puppy' for everyday use If I get a few issues resolved!

Only main problem encountered so far is WiFi... wlano is recognized by frisbee but just won't connect! :: using Linksys usb module with Verizon modem/router combo. Had the same problem with Saluki and jemimah did something to get it working but I forget what it was... been a long time ago and many, many distro's back :( (It's NOT my hardware or config., I have several other distro's where WiFi works great... and a few where it doesn't)

Also...anyone have any luck getting the Weather Module working in conky 'ken' ?

If so, would appreciate a tip or two!

'Thanks'

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#202 Post by elroy »

sszindian wrote:Still testing on Lina Lite, adding lots of what I want a program to do... it continues to be an amazing puppy and may well be my 'main puppy' for everyday use If I get a few issues resolved!

Only main problem encountered so far is WiFi... wlano is recognized by frisbee but just won't connect! :: using Linksys usb module with Verizon modem/router combo. Had the same problem with Saluki and jemimah did something to get it working but I forget what it was... been a long time ago and many, many distro's back :( (It's NOT my hardware or config., I have several other distro's where WiFi works great... and a few where it doesn't)

Also...anyone have any luck getting the Weather Module working in conky 'ken' ?

If so, would appreciate a tip or two!

'Thanks'

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Hi sszindian,
If you go to Control Panel-->Network and choose the Frisbee Network Manager Configuration you can choose to disable Frisbee and use a more traditional Puppy method of connecting to wifi. Without knowing what jemimah did to help you out, it would be really difficult to add whatever it was.

As far as conky goes, I've never used it, so I'd be no better than a noob at providing advice concerning conky. Hopefully someone will step up to the plate and help you on this issue.

Glad to hear that you're enjoying 'lina-lite.

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WiFi

#203 Post by sszindian »

Hi elroy, thanks for the reply...

Installed the- rt3070sta-2.5.0.3-3.2.13-ski.pet you posted over in Carolina thread... It creates a new usb0 module for frisbee (of which I'm not sure of the objective)... so now frisbee sees eth0, wlan0 and usb0 however, only eth0 will connect to the network with frisbee. Using the standard SNS I cannot connect to network at all with frisbee disabled. I tried all types of config's with the wlan0 and usb0 without success using both frisbee and SNS.

On all my other puppy versions where frisbee or regular SNS makes a wlan0 wireless connection... only wlano and eth0 are available for setup.

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unwanted startup sound

#204 Post by sheldonisaac »

May I ask for help, please?

My friend uses a Dell laptop Latitude D610 essentially as an Internet device only: Yahoo mail via browser, search via Google, play online videos etc.

I am setting up 'lina-lite on my D610, before seeing how she likes it on hers.

An item I've not yet solved is the loud 'crackle'-like sound immediately after the screen shows
"Recognising media devices... optical input"
(around line 701 and subsequently in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit)

How can I prevent that sound?

Thanks a lot,

Sheldon

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Ram Hog

#205 Post by sszindian »

Anyone have any ideas why Lina-Lite is such a 'RAM HOG?'

Most of the newer puppy builds only use somewhere between 80MB and 120MB (average) of ram at any given time when checked with 'Hardinfo hardware information' but Lina runs 180MB upwards to 400+MB of ram when checked. I configd the browser to dump its cache when done but that only helps a wee-bit.

Is there a way to easily correct this with a .pet, Kernel upgrade, or something?

Even though Lina is using a somewhat old kernel, it's still a very snapy program for older hardware. I run it on a Dell P-4 with 750 + MB ram and it does a fine job.

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Re: Ram Hog

#206 Post by Marv »

sszindian wrote:Anyone have any ideas why Lina-Lite is such a 'RAM HOG?'

Most of the newer puppy builds only use somewhere between 80MB and 120MB (average) of ram at any given time when checked with 'Hardinfo hardware information' but Lina runs 180MB upwards to 400+MB of ram when checked. I configd the browser to dump its cache when done but that only helps a wee-bit.

Is there a way to easily correct this with a .pet, Kernel upgrade, or something?

Even though Lina is using a somewhat old kernel, it's still a very snapy program for older hardware. I run it on a Dell P-4 with 750 + MB ram and it does a fine job.

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I've run 005 for a long time now and never noticed this. Just booted into my remastered 005 with abiword, gnumeric etc on board (frugal install, pfix=copy so sfs is copied into memory (my main sfs is 67.9Mb and the zdrive is 23.8Mb)) and see the following:

In lxtask, 67 Mb of 1980Mb used, CPU % at idle 3.5%. Running opera, mem use up to 169 Mb (site dependent) of 1980Mb in Lxtask, returns to 67 or so on closing opera (12.16).

Edit 9/22/2013: more careful recheck of memory use on 005 using HWinfo: At idle, hwinfo reports 107Mb memory use. Rises to 193 Mb with opera running on this site, falls right back to 107Mb when opera closed. My first report of 193 at idle was actually running opera.

Could it be a firefox/browser thing not releasing memory? I don't have either ff or chrome installed on this OS to check.

I've never had problems with memory in Saluki 00x through 'lina-lite 005 so never really thought about it. Usually run them on Pentium Ms with 1Gb or on Athlon or P3 boxes with 512Mb. What do you see in Lxtask?

I'll bounce into x-precise 2.1.1 on this machine now and append what I see.

Edit: Indeed, now in xprecise 2.1.1 non-PAE installed identically on the same computer. I see 107Mb used out of 2027Mb in HWinfo, and Lxtask shows 1.5% CPU and 73Mb used at idle. ( I set lxtask for 5 sec update). What I'm currently using on the more humble boxes is alphaOS 11. It takes some tweaking but once set up the combo of a modern kernel, openbox with a tint2 panel and spacefm with no gvfs or pup_volume_manager is really squeaky efficient and it is non-PAE. My best guess on 005 is a browser not releasing memory but that is just that, a guess
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Ram Hog

#207 Post by sszindian »

Thanks for that info Marv!

You Wrote:
What do you see in Lxtask?

I'm never used that feature... fact, I have no idea where or what it is :?

I guess only elroy would know about the ram thingy... but since he's gone on to new pastures, no answer there I guess?

The high usage of ram by Lina doesn't affect the performance in any way that I was able to notice, but it just made me wonder after finding out about it. I believe the highest I've seen it was 440MB usage where as most other versions are running + - the 100MB mark.

I'm playing with the new X-Precise and X-Slacko at the moment, they seem to be doing rather well so far.

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#208 Post by Marv »

Lxtask task manager should show up in the system menu. If not, it can be run from the terminal as lxtask. I use it to take a quick at cpu and mem use by app and to kill bad actors. Should be in 005.
It's certainly in the Carolina repo anyway. I'm in x-precise now and it's there. Pretty useful little critter actually.
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Re: Ram Hog

#209 Post by sheldonisaac »

Marv wrote: ... recheck of memory use on 005 using HWinfo: At idle, hwinfo reports 107Mb memory use. Rises to 193 Mb with opera running on this site, falls right back to 107Mb when opera closed.
175MB used of 2065 , with opera running on this site
Falls back to 119MB when opera closed.

'lina-lite 005, Dell Latitude D610 laptop. No swap.

Thanks,
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Ram Hog

#210 Post by sszindian »

Well, a little more testing reviled, the problem is NOT with Lina Lite, at least I don't believe so.

After reading the posts I noticed that everything seemed to be running pretty normal with those using Opera Browser, when I found the excessive ram usage, I was running Seamonkey so I tried Firefox from the PPM. It did an auto-update and then I ventured to give it a good Internet workout... online Solitaire, a few Youtube vid's and some online Newspapers. It used around 170 some MB while working then dropped back to 117-120 at the desktop, this occurred with each session.

Retried Seamonkey... bingo right back up in the high MB figures again so, I would say the problem is 'Seamonkey' using all that excessive ram... for what? I have no idea.

I'm going to give Opera a try soon and see the results.

'Thanks for the look-in-to guys'

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#211 Post by RAC0902 »

Hi

I have been trying to run Lina-lite on a HP Neoware CA21 (E90) thin client from a USB pendrive but the boot process hangs when it gets to: Recognising Media Device - Optical Input

I guess this a hardware issue as I can boot lina-lite on my laptop using the same pen-driv e with no problems, however I don't have problem booting both Saluki & full Carolina on the thin client though Caorlina does run very slow. The thin client has a VIA Eden 800mhz processor + 1GB RAM.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong, any clues? Have been using Saluki on a couple of devices for the last year but would consider myself as an inexperienced linux user.

Rich

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#212 Post by Marv »

RAC0902 wrote:Hi

I have been trying to run Lina-lite on a HP Neoware CA21 (E90) thin client from a USB pendrive but the boot process hangs when it gets to: Recognising Media Device - Optical Input

I guess this a hardware issue as I can boot lina-lite on my laptop using the same pen-driv e with no problems, however I don't have problem booting both Saluki & full Carolina on the thin client though Caorlina does run very slow. The thin client has a VIA Eden 800mhz processor + 1GB RAM.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong, any clues? Have been using Saluki on a couple of devices for the last year but would consider myself as an inexperienced linux user.

Rich
Just an aside from a diehard lina-lite 005er. Don't have an answer on the optical hang, but have you run Carolina 1.1 with the adrive hidden (by renaming)? Basically on my Pentium M's, that or Carolite 1.1 are just about as fast as my well honed lite 005 and a bit more up to date wrt internal scripts, progs etc.
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#213 Post by RAC0902 »

Marv thanks for the reply. I'm a bit of a noob to linux and so the command line is still something of a mystery, but I will do a search on hiding the adrive to see if I can find a walk through.

Cheers

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re adrive, zdrive, etc

#214 Post by sheldonisaac »

(SOME SNIPPAGE)
Marv wrote:adrive hidden (by renaming)? Basically on my Pentium M's, that or Carolite 1.1 are just about as fast as my well honed lite 005 and a bit more up to date wrt internal scripts, progs etc.
Thanks, Marv.
I just renamed the adrive in Carolite 1.1; boots fine on this Pentium M, a Dell D610 laptop.

Please excuse; where can I (an old newby) find an explanation of why to use adrive, zdrive, etc?

I had replaced the 'lina-lite files in my lina folder with those of Carolite 1.1, but haven't done much with it.

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#215 Post by rg66 »

RAC0902 wrote:Marv thanks for the reply. I'm a bit of a noob to linux and so the command line is still something of a mystery, but I will do a search on hiding the adrive to see if I can find a walk through.

Cheers
All you have to do is rename adrv_lina_xxx.sfs or remove it from your flash drive.
sheldonisaac wrote:Please excuse; where can I (an old newby) find an explanation of why to use adrive, zdrive, etc?

I had replaced the 'lina-lite files in my lina folder with those of Carolite 1.1, but haven't done much with it.
Basically adrive holds user apps and zdrive has the driver modules. Having them separate makes it a little easier to change apps and kernels. You can also boot without the adrive and have a functioning system minus the apps.

For Carolina-non-pae we basically swapped in the lina_lite zdrive along with vmlinuz and the initrd.gz and changed DISTRO_SPECS in /etc in the main sfs.

For Carolite it was the same we but also made a much smaller adrive and stripped a few things from the main sfs.
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