Precise Puppy 5.4 and 5.4.2

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#286 Post by 01micko »

akash_rawal wrote:
akash_rawal wrote: Also gio has problems using modules. It's a glib bug and affects some other distros as well.
I have recompiled glib from original sources and that fixes the module loading problem.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/58347439/protec ... 0-i686.pet
Did you include jemimah's patches for media/mnt and the help browser? If so, then it would solve bigpup's issue with the help in all gtk apps.
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bigpup wrote:
BarryK wrote:I think that John Murga has made changes to the Forum recently. It keeps on logging me out. Anyone else got this problem?
From the forum FAQ
Why do I get logged off automatically?
If you do not check the Log me in automatically box when you log in, the board will only keep you logged in for a preset time. This prevents misuse of your account by anyone else. To stay logged in, check the box during login. This is not recommended if you access the board from a shared computer, e.g. library, internet cafe, university cluster, etc.
What I am reporting is a change in behaviour of the forum.

Sometimes it logs me out only a few minutes after logging in. Even if I am active on the forum.

The previous behaviour was that it would log me out after a certain period of inactivity. I don't recall how long, maybe half an hour. It was a generous period of inactivity.

I used to have this problem with my Telstra mobile broadband connection. I did report the problem to John, but it never got fixed. After I changed to Optus, the problem went away.
Until now, suddenly I have that problem with Optus also.
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#288 Post by BarryK »

akash_rawal wrote:Testing precise 5.4.0.90.

Looks like the session saving problem is solved, I'm unable to reproduce it now.

Problems with gdb and gio modules persist.

I'll continue testing and report back more. :)
Do you mean even after installing your PET:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/58347439/protec ... 0-i686.pet

Precise still has module loading problems?
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#289 Post by BarryK »

akash_rawal wrote:Finished downloading precise 5.4. Testing it reveals several problems.

On first boot it refused to save the session. After asking for save file name it rebooted without saving session. Next time I ran wmreboot in terminal but this time it worked properly. :? Will try again to reproduce the problem.

Display, opengl and internet is working properly. Posting from there now.

In devx gdb doesn't work.

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# gdb
gdb: error while loading shared libraries: libpython2.7.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#
Installing libpython2.7_2.7.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb fixes gdb.

Also gio has problems using modules. It's a glib bug and affects some other distros as well. See here.

Edit: Didn't see precise 5.4.0.90.
Thanks, libpython2.7 will be in the devx.
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Infrastructure mods to facilitate addition of Frisbee

#290 Post by rerwin »

Barry,
Testing of my integrated Frisbee is progressing well. Although I am not ready to submit it for additon to the puppy package library, the infrastructure changes are straightforward and would simplify users' and developers' addition of Frisbee.

Please consider updating woof with the first four packages posted here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 518#662518

The fifth (dhcpcd-dropwait) can also be added to the puppy package library, although substituting it in woof for dhcpcd could benefit connection stability for all network managers.

My main concern, though, is that the woof-resident changes be made, including the addition of a slot for a separate wag_profiles package. Please see the description associated with those packages at the above link. I recognize that it is late in the cycle, but ask for it because it would avoid users needing to modify to puppy infrastructure.
Richard

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Re: Infrastructure mods to facilitate addition of Frisbee

#291 Post by BarryK »

rerwin wrote:Barry,
Testing of my integrated Frisbee is progressing well. Although I am not ready to submit it for additon to the puppy package library, the infrastructure changes are straightforward and would simplify users' and developers' addition of Frisbee.

Please consider updating woof with the first four packages posted here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 518#662518

The fifth (dhcpcd-dropwait) can also be added to the puppy package library, although substituting it in woof for dhcpcd could benefit connection stability for all network managers.

My main concern, though, is that the woof-resident changes be made, including the addition of a slot for a separate wag_profiles package. Please see the description associated with those packages at the above link. I recognize that it is late in the cycle, but ask for it because it would avoid users needing to modify to puppy infrastructure.
Richard
Richard,
It is too late in the development cycle for Precise 5.4.1. This is almost ready to be released, and anyway the intention was bug-fixes only relative to 5.4.

Infrastructure changes to support Frisbee can be considered after 5.4.1 is released.
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Re: regular expression evaluation and learning tool

#292 Post by L18L »

BarryK wrote:
L18L wrote:
file:///usr/share/doc/HOWTO-regexps.htm wrote:[Note: Puppy has a regular expression evaluation and learning tool in the Utilities menu]
Once upon a time (version 1.04) I have used it much.
But now it seems to have disappeared :cry:
Yes, that was a long time ago. If I recall rightly, there were two of them, one was written in tcl/tk, the other gtk1.2.

Which was why we had to leave them behind.
Hi Barry,
I have searched, found and installed another tool:
my console wrote:# regetron
Regetron! The regex teaching SHELL.
Type your regex at the prompt and hit enter. It'll show you the
lines that match that regex, or nothing if nothing matches.
Hit CTRL-d to quit (CTRL-z on windows).
>
installed:

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git clone git://gitorious.org/regetron/regetron.git 
cd regetron 
python setup.py install
like advised at
http://regex.learncodethehardway.org/bo ... #x6-100001

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#293 Post by akash_rawal »

01micko wrote:
akash_rawal wrote:
akash_rawal wrote: Also gio has problems using modules. It's a glib bug and affects some other distros as well.
I have recompiled glib from original sources and that fixes the module loading problem.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/58347439/protec ... 0-i686.pet
Did you include jemimah's patches for media/mnt and the help browser? If so, then it would solve bigpup's issue with the help in all gtk apps.
No, I used the original, unmodified source. I'll check out the patch soon.

Till now abiword is the only program I find with help not working, irrespective of manually compiled glib or precise glib. "Operation not supported" is the warning printed on terminal. Is this problem you are talking about?

But running gdb on abiword reveals it uses its own c++ functions to implement help.

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Breakpoint 1, 0xb70207f0 in g_log () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
(gdb) bt
#0  0xb70207f0 in g_log () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#1  0x083affb6 in XAP_UnixAppImpl::openURL(char const*) ()
#2  0x08189b9f in helpLocalizeAndOpenURL(char const*, char const*, char const*)
    ()
#3  0x08189c4a in ap_EditMethods::helpContents(AV_View*, EV_EditMethodCallData*) ()
#4  0x082850bd in EV_Menu::invokeMenuMethod(AV_View*, EV_EditMethod*, UT_String const&) ()
#5  0x083cf590 in EV_UnixMenu::menuEvent(int) ()
#6  0xb7142b3c in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID ()
   from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#7  0xb7140dd4 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#8  0xb71537d9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#9  0xb715c02f in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#10 0xb715c233 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#11 0xb7d03395 in gtk_widget_activate () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#12 0xb7be0667 in gtk_menu_shell_activate_item ()
   from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
...
So maybe you are talking about something else I didn't get...

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#294 Post by akash_rawal »

BarryK wrote:
akash_rawal wrote:Testing precise 5.4.0.90.

Looks like the session saving problem is solved, I'm unable to reproduce it now.

Problems with gdb and gio modules persist.

I'll continue testing and report back more. :)
Do you mean even after installing your PET:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/58347439/protec ... 0-i686.pet

Precise still has module loading problems?
No, I meant even in precise 5.4.0.90 I have to install the pet to correct the problem.

The problem is solved after installing the pet.

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#295 Post by 666philb »

there's a bug when installing .deb files. the categories section of the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications gets changed!
this has also been noted by Jejy69 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81852

for example in the openshot.deb, /usr/share/applications/openshot.desktop looks like this

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Categories=GNOME;GTK;AudioVideo;Video;AudioVideoEditing;
after installing though it looks like this

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Categories=Utility
same with the deadbeef.deb from

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Categories=AudioVideo;Player;GTK;
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Categories=Utility
this is making nearly everything installed from the ppm end up in the 'utility' menu
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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Re: Infrastructure mods to facilitate addition of Frisbee

#296 Post by rerwin »

BarryK wrote:Richard,
It is too late in the development cycle for Precise 5.4.1. This is almost ready to be released, and anyway the intention was bug-fixes only relative to 5.4.

Infrastructure changes to support Frisbee can be considered after 5.4.1 is released.
Right. The goal is to get the implementation into the woof structure for all puppies, not precise 5.4.1. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
Richard

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#297 Post by akash_rawal »

Glade interface designer doesn't work.

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# glade
glade: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# 
Instead of adding gtk3 maybe it would be better to provide glade separately, as gtk3 could be large?

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Help with finding BlueGriffon

#298 Post by dennis-slacko531 »

Maybe I belong in the beginners forum, but I hope not. BlueGriffon is a wysiwyg website builder I'd like to try. It's popular so I expected it to be found with PPM --but nothing available. I appreciate any & all help.

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I'll try again

#299 Post by tlchost »

This latest version of precise does not recognize my audio chip. I tried all the steps...what information to I need to post to allow someone to either tell me how to fix the problem, or not to continue the effort.

Thanks

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Re: Help with finding BlueGriffon

#300 Post by 01micko »

dennis-slacko531 wrote:Maybe I belong in the beginners forum, but I hope not. BlueGriffon is a wysiwyg website builder I'd like to try. It's popular so I expected it to be found with PPM --but nothing available. I appreciate any & all help.
You can get from here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 2-i686.pet

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akash_rawal

To save you the hunt I've attached the glib patch I use in Slacko-beta series based on slackware-14.0. This is based directly on jemimah's work.

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Re: regular expression evaluation and learning tool

#301 Post by afishe2000 »

file:///usr/share/doc/HOWTO-regexps.htm wrote:[Note: Puppy has a regular expression evaluation and learning tool in the Utilities menu]
Once upon a time (version 1.04) I have used it much.
But now it seems to have disappeared :cry:
If you are running Python you can use redemo.py

I created redemo.sh and made it executable

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python /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/scripts/redemo.py

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#302 Post by majorfoo »

Full Install of 5.4.0.90 PAE to ext4 partition

Confirming that black screen no longer appears on bootup

Have installed about dozen pets from storage partition and everything works.

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#303 Post by Peter.M »

Somehow (new to forum) I think this has also gone somewhere else as well - appologies

Notifying BUG here as it concerns my test of 5.4.1 beta

Have just downloaded beta, tried on my Dell Vostro V360 all in one desktop. It boots to a totally black screen (nothing visible) which blinks the desktop on for about 0.5 seconds every 10-15 seconds. I also understand it affects some laptops as well of both Dell and other brands that use the nvidia optimus gt525 video chipset

This is a known bug with ubuntu 12.04 precise and I believe affects all kernels in all distros kernel 2.6 thru 3.5 that use a video driver unless it uses vesa. I understand the bug has been fixed in later 3.5 and up kernels

see this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... bug/918769

and this which is too technical for me !! : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=62301

Has anyone else had this problem?

Hope this helps make Puppy better and more versatile :D

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#304 Post by otropogo »

Peter.M wrote:Somehow (new to forum) I think this has also gone somewhere else as well - appologies

Notifying BUG here as it concerns my test of 5.4.1 beta

Have just downloaded beta, tried on my Dell Vostro V360 all in one desktop. It boots to a totally black screen (nothing visible) which blinks the desktop on for about 0.5 seconds every 10-15 seconds. I also understand it affects some laptops as well of both Dell and other brands that use the nvidia optimus gt525 video chipset

This is a known bug with ubuntu 12.04 precise and I believe affects all kernels in all distros kernel 2.6 thru 3.5 that use a video driver unless it uses vesa. I understand the bug has been fixed in later 3.5 and up kernels

see this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... bug/918769

and this which is too technical for me !! : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=62301

Has anyone else had this problem?

Hope this helps make Puppy better and more versatile :D

I haven't tried beta .1 yet, but reported very similar video issues on page 16 of this thread, which apparently were not deserving of Barry's response.

If I hadn't had two monitors available, I wouldn't have been able to do any experimentation at all with Puppy 5.4. As it is, configuring a display was gruesomely difficult, and at times both monitors were blacked out, and only one was even marginally usable at the available settings.

And these are problems I've never encountered with any Puppy from 1.1 through 5.2.8.
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#305 Post by BarryK »

otropogo wrote:I haven't tried beta .1 yet, but reported very similar video issues on page 16 of this thread, which apparently were not deserving of Barry's response.
Not the kind of comment that is going to get me "onside".

I often don't respond to a bug report simply because I haven't got a clue how to fix it. If someone reports a "black screen", there is not much to go on.

Often the only apparent solution is to use some other puplet or even other distro that does work with that hardware.
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