You will need to contact Forum member L18L about this, he is the 'de' langpack maintainer -- there is also a thread in this Forum.julakali wrote:This is an answer to a bug posted on Page 4 of this Thread...
There seems to be an error, which is actually in line ~750 of /usr/sbin/puppyinstaller.boon wrote:Hi, I already posted this in the beginners section.
I got following problem. Trying to do a full install of Precise on my hard drive, Puppy-Universal-Installer crashes after selecting the partition to install to. When I start puppyinstaller from console, I get:** (gtkdialog4:4524): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 5, near token '</label>': syntax error
Any idea what is going on?
Thank you for the great work, boon
The error is in the line that contains the label "You have choosen to install Puppy to partition [...]".
I just removed that label from the script to continue...
edit: happens with german language pack
Precise Puppy 5.4 and 5.4.2
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Re: Puppy-Universal-Installer crashes
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regular expression evaluation and learning tool
Once upon a time (version 1.04) I have used it much.file:///usr/share/doc/HOWTO-regexps.htm wrote:[Note: Puppy has a regular expression evaluation and learning tool in the Utilities menu]
But now it seems to have disappeared
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edited
I am going to have a look on puppy installer now
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edit
fixed, thank you
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Re: adding wallpapers - how
Thanks, I'm in lupuplus right now, but will try your suggestion next time I boot with Puppy 5.4666philb wrote:put your new background in /usr/share/backgroundsotropogo wrote:
Meanwhile, I can't find any means of adding a new wallpaper to the selection provided. I've never had this issue before either.
or you could use don570's pet, which gives you an option to send a picture to the backgrounds folder by right clicking http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67013
Ok, /usr/share/backgrounds works for me. Thanks. The right choice of background makes the wrong resolution more palatable.
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Barry,
A lot of the programs:
Help selections do nothing when clicked on.
You get a help menu, but none of the selections do anything if they point to a web site or URL
Also the about screen web links will do nothing when clicked on.
This got fixed in Lucid Puppy.
Works also in Slacko.
Not sure what needs to be done, but 01micko should be able to provide info to you.
A lot of the programs:
Help selections do nothing when clicked on.
You get a help menu, but none of the selections do anything if they point to a web site or URL
Also the about screen web links will do nothing when clicked on.
This got fixed in Lucid Puppy.
Works also in Slacko.
Not sure what needs to be done, but 01micko should be able to provide info to you.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
James C wrote:Another quick test of Precise 5.40 with a different Nvidia card. Sound,internet and display all correct on boot.
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4
Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: nv44 Board - p382h1 Chip Rev
Driver used by Xorg:
vesa
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"
Interesting. In my installation of 5.4 all report-video displays is the name of the video chip : ATI ATOM RV515 1:00,
and the colour depth (24),
I haven't found a way to copy and paste the display from urxvt.
In lupuplus 528, the same command provides the full name of the card (Radeon X1300/X1550 Series), and the resolution of the display (1280x768), as well as the depth.
There's also a Lighthouse 0.6 popup with the same information and NO mention of "vesa" in either the terminal (ROX) or Lighthouse:
sh-4.1# report-video
Lucid , version 528 on Mon 5 Nov 2012
Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
ATI Technologies Inc RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV515 01.00
X Server: Xorg
Driver used: radeon
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
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Re: Preparation for integration of Frisbee
Hi Richardrerwin wrote:Barry and testers, The 3.0 version needs testing by wireless users, because I have no wireless setup.
Have tested your pets - have sent you a PM with the results as I had problems.
Regards
Peter
LxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
some missing firmwares:
# ls /lib/modules/3.2.29/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtlwifi
rtl8192c rtl8192ce rtl8192cu rtl8192de rtl8192se rtlwifi.ko
# ls /lib/modules/all-firmware/rtlwifi/lib/firmware/rtlwifi
rtl8192cfw.bin rtl8192cufw.bin rtl8192sefw.bin rtl8712u.bin
Firmware for rtl8192de is missing:
# modinfo rtl8192de
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192defw.bin
and.....
# modinfo rtl8192ce
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cfwU_B.bin
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cfwU.bin
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin
Those 2 bolded ones are missing. I created a pet which installs them to the right location. It could help for those toshiba laptop users which have lockup problems. Not sure. I read that kernel 3.7 will address them better, but you can try.
/etc/modules/firmware.dep file need correction to this row:
rtlwifi:rtl8192ce.ko,rtl8192cu.ko,rtl8192de.ko,rtl8192se.ko,r8712u.ko
I just have to say that highlighting with default themes is bit difficult.Lol.
# ls /lib/modules/3.2.29/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtlwifi
rtl8192c rtl8192ce rtl8192cu rtl8192de rtl8192se rtlwifi.ko
# ls /lib/modules/all-firmware/rtlwifi/lib/firmware/rtlwifi
rtl8192cfw.bin rtl8192cufw.bin rtl8192sefw.bin rtl8712u.bin
Firmware for rtl8192de is missing:
# modinfo rtl8192de
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192defw.bin
and.....
# modinfo rtl8192ce
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cfwU_B.bin
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cfwU.bin
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin
Those 2 bolded ones are missing. I created a pet which installs them to the right location. It could help for those toshiba laptop users which have lockup problems. Not sure. I read that kernel 3.7 will address them better, but you can try.
/etc/modules/firmware.dep file need correction to this row:
rtlwifi:rtl8192ce.ko,rtl8192cu.ko,rtl8192de.ko,rtl8192se.ko,r8712u.ko
I just have to say that highlighting with default themes is bit difficult.Lol.
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Everyone needs to realize that Ubuntu packages are built for 686 cpus with the CMOV instruction. This means that Precise will fail on all 486 and 586, the via c3, pentium, pentium mmx, amd geode and the vortex86 series of cpus and several others (see /proc/info to find out if you have the cmov flag)
This is a likely cause of the non-reproducible bug reports. @Barry, didn't you have a gecko edubook? That would be a good test box for this.
Edit: at 1 point choosing PAE in the kernel config also enabled some cmov instructions that prevented booting on these cpus, though IDK if it is still the case.
This is a likely cause of the non-reproducible bug reports. @Barry, didn't you have a gecko edubook? That would be a good test box for this.
Edit: at 1 point choosing PAE in the kernel config also enabled some cmov instructions that prevented booting on these cpus, though IDK if it is still the case.
Check out my [url=https://github.com/technosaurus]github repositories[/url]. I may eventually get around to updating my [url=http://bashismal.blogspot.com]blogspot[/url].
cmov flag
Well, Pentium III 933 - they look good!technosaurus wrote:Everyone needs to realize that Ubuntu packages are built for 686 cpus with the CMOV instruction. This means that Precise will fail on all 486 and 586, the via c3, pentium, pentium mmx, amd geode and the vortex86 series of cpus and several others (see /proc/info to find out if you have the cmov flag)
This is a likely cause of the non-reproducible bug reports. @Barry, didn't you have a gecko edubook? That would be a good test box for this.
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Re: cmov flag
Yes, PII should be fine too.FeodorF wrote:Well, Pentium III 933 - they look good!technosaurus wrote:Everyone needs to realize that Ubuntu packages are built for 686 cpus with the CMOV instruction. This means that Precise will fail on all 486 and 586, the via c3, pentium, pentium mmx, amd geode and the vortex86 series of cpus and several others (see /proc/info to find out if you have the cmov flag)
This is a likely cause of the non-reproducible bug reports. @Barry, didn't you have a gecko edubook? That would be a good test box for this.
Check out my [url=https://github.com/technosaurus]github repositories[/url]. I may eventually get around to updating my [url=http://bashismal.blogspot.com]blogspot[/url].
Scanner woes
Hello,
I'm using Precise on a Lenovo netbook with VIA Nano processor. No issues yet apart from scanner. It's an HP C4480 Photosmart printer/scanner. Here is what I have tried:
Installed hplip_print-3.12.10a.pet and hplip_scan-3.12.10a.pet
from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=444080
Printer installs and works with no problems.
Peasyscan:
Failed to open device 'hpaio:/usb/Photosmart_C4400_series?serial=CN89BHF1D30557':Invalid argument
sane-find-scanner
found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x6c11 [Photosmart C4400 series]) at libusb:001:006
scanimage -L
device `hpaio:/usb/Photosmart_C4400_series?serial=CN89BHF1D30557' is a Hewlett-Packard Photosmart_C4400_series all-in-one
xsane GUI (USB)
no devices available
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
[Edit] this works (i.e. scans and outputs file): I still can't get the xsane gui to open...
I'm using Precise on a Lenovo netbook with VIA Nano processor. No issues yet apart from scanner. It's an HP C4480 Photosmart printer/scanner. Here is what I have tried:
Installed hplip_print-3.12.10a.pet and hplip_scan-3.12.10a.pet
from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=444080
Printer installs and works with no problems.
Peasyscan:
Failed to open device 'hpaio:/usb/Photosmart_C4400_series?serial=CN89BHF1D30557':Invalid argument
sane-find-scanner
found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x6c11 [Photosmart C4400 series]) at libusb:001:006
scanimage -L
device `hpaio:/usb/Photosmart_C4400_series?serial=CN89BHF1D30557' is a Hewlett-Packard Photosmart_C4400_series all-in-one
xsane GUI (USB)
no devices available
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
[Edit] this works (i.e. scans and outputs file):
Code: Select all
#scanimage -d hpaio:/usb/Photosmart_C4400_series?serial=CN89BHF1D30557 --resolution 200 > /root/my-documents/scan.jpg
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Precise Puppy 5.4 on Dell Inspiron 14R N4010
I've been slow to read this topic and respond. Precise Puppy 5.4 works on most of my collection of antique machines with PII and later processors. (IIRC 686 started with the Pentium Pro, but I don't know anyone who still has one working.)
Naturally, when I went to show 5.4 to a friend I ran into the grub-config bug, then tried to install VLC from Ubuntu-precise-universe. (Not recommended.)
I was able to set up a multiboot system using Lupu 5.28.005 to configure grub.
Moral: never throw a good dog out.
VLC is sufficiently large and complicated that I would recommend making this an .sfs file instead of a .pet.
This group seems to be on top of all the problems I found.
Added: almost forgot my subject line. Just tried 5.4 on a Dell Inspiron 14R N4010 I was repairing for a friend. Works great.
I used the copy partition feature in gparted to move the diagnostic and recovery partitions to a new drive, despite a very slow disk making many retries. Replacing this hard drive is close to a nightmare. This is the first time I've had to pull a laptop motherboard to change a hard drive. Geeksquad didn't even realize the disk was on the point of failing. Dell and BestBuy seem to have decided the design life of this machine was the 3 years you can expect the disk to last in regular use. I'm replacing it with an SSD. (Yes, it is running W7, which knows about limiting writes, though not as well as Puppy.)
Some organization should warn consumers about virtually unrepairable and unsupportable products.
Naturally, when I went to show 5.4 to a friend I ran into the grub-config bug, then tried to install VLC from Ubuntu-precise-universe. (Not recommended.)
I was able to set up a multiboot system using Lupu 5.28.005 to configure grub.
Moral: never throw a good dog out.
VLC is sufficiently large and complicated that I would recommend making this an .sfs file instead of a .pet.
This group seems to be on top of all the problems I found.
Added: almost forgot my subject line. Just tried 5.4 on a Dell Inspiron 14R N4010 I was repairing for a friend. Works great.
I used the copy partition feature in gparted to move the diagnostic and recovery partitions to a new drive, despite a very slow disk making many retries. Replacing this hard drive is close to a nightmare. This is the first time I've had to pull a laptop motherboard to change a hard drive. Geeksquad didn't even realize the disk was on the point of failing. Dell and BestBuy seem to have decided the design life of this machine was the 3 years you can expect the disk to last in regular use. I'm replacing it with an SSD. (Yes, it is running W7, which knows about limiting writes, though not as well as Puppy.)
Some organization should warn consumers about virtually unrepairable and unsupportable products.
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Precise Puppy 5.4.1-beta1 is uploaded.
This is the first beta of the upcoming 5.4.1 bug-fix release for 5.4.
Blog announcement and download:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00015
This was built last night, so I missed some of the recent posts above.
This is the first beta of the upcoming 5.4.1 bug-fix release for 5.4.
Blog announcement and download:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00015
This was built last night, so I missed some of the recent posts above.
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]
Re: Scanner woes
It's unusual when scanimage detects the backend correctly but xsane doesn't.Wognath wrote:scanimage -L
device `hpaio:/usb/Photosmart_C4400_series?serial=CN89BHF1D30557' is a Hewlett-Packard Photosmart_C4400_series all-in-one
xsane GUI (USB)
no devices available
Has this scanner worked with other Puppies or other versions of HPLIP?
I just tested my Photosmart C4680 in Precise with the hplip_scan-3.12.10a.pet and it worked fine.
Do you have a different machine to test it on?
Precise Puppy 5.4
I did a manual frugal install to a 4gb flash drive, it has a 3gb
savefile.
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.0.90
Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS690 01.00
Driver used by Xorg:
radeon
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org R300 Project
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
55 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10.908 FPS
65 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12.954 FPS
65 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12.954 FPS
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Memory 1812MB (112MB used)
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
Crystal Eye webcam
I installed vlc 2.0.3,kdegames,and guvcview from ppm and they all work
fine first go, no missing dependencies.
I was going to install cheese for the webcam but the download would
have been 192mb and guvcview does the same thing with a much smaller
download.
Highlighting text in the hardinfo report works fine.
That's it so far, it does what I want/need on this particular laptop, thanks.
savefile.
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.0.90
Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS690 01.00
Driver used by Xorg:
radeon
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org R300 Project
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
55 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10.908 FPS
65 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12.954 FPS
65 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12.954 FPS
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Memory 1812MB (112MB used)
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
Crystal Eye webcam
I installed vlc 2.0.3,kdegames,and guvcview from ppm and they all work
fine first go, no missing dependencies.
I was going to install cheese for the webcam but the download would
have been 192mb and guvcview does the same thing with a much smaller
download.
Highlighting text in the hardinfo report works fine.
That's it so far, it does what I want/need on this particular laptop, thanks.
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Quick manual frugal install of Precise 5.4.0.90 on my main Athlon XP box.No problems yet.... sound,internet and display all working and correct on initial boot.
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.0.90
Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2
Driver used by Xorg:
vesa
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1387 frames in 5.0 seconds = 277.369 FPS
2039 frames in 5.0 seconds = 407.695 FPS
2110 frames in 5.0 seconds = 421.759 FPS
2020 frames in 5.0 seconds = 403.790 FPS
2069 frames in 5.0 seconds = 413.792 FPS
2019 frames in 5.0 seconds = 403.748 FPS
2120 frames in 5.0 seconds = 423.930 FPS
2092 frames in 5.0 seconds = 418.333 FPS
2039 frames in 5.0 seconds = 407.691 FPS
2098 frames in 5.0 seconds = 419.596 FPS
Actually using nouveau.
-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (200MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 06 Nov 2012 12:36:27 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Version : 1.11.3
-Monitors-
Monitor 0 : 1440x900 pixels
-OpenGL-
Vendor : Nouveau
Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
Version : 1.2 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering : Yes
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.0.90
Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2
Driver used by Xorg:
vesa
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1387 frames in 5.0 seconds = 277.369 FPS
2039 frames in 5.0 seconds = 407.695 FPS
2110 frames in 5.0 seconds = 421.759 FPS
2020 frames in 5.0 seconds = 403.790 FPS
2069 frames in 5.0 seconds = 413.792 FPS
2019 frames in 5.0 seconds = 403.748 FPS
2120 frames in 5.0 seconds = 423.930 FPS
2092 frames in 5.0 seconds = 418.333 FPS
2039 frames in 5.0 seconds = 407.691 FPS
2098 frames in 5.0 seconds = 419.596 FPS
Actually using nouveau.
-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (200MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 06 Nov 2012 12:36:27 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Version : 1.11.3
-Monitors-
Monitor 0 : 1440x900 pixels
-OpenGL-
Vendor : Nouveau
Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
Version : 1.2 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering : Yes
Scanner
rcrsn51,
Thanks for the quick reply. Both scanner and printer work in Saluki using the printer-scanner-drivers.sfs. I think that contains hplip 3.11.10. I tried Precise on my daughter's computer (atom processor). Again, printer works, scanner does not.
I tried 5.4.0.90 also--same result.
Thanks for the quick reply. Both scanner and printer work in Saluki using the printer-scanner-drivers.sfs. I think that contains hplip 3.11.10. I tried Precise on my daughter's computer (atom processor). Again, printer works, scanner does not.
I tried 5.4.0.90 also--same result.
Re: Scanner
I wonder if HP has accidentally broken support for this model in 3.12.10a.Wognath wrote: Both scanner and printer work in Saluki using the printer-scanner-drivers.sfs. I think that contains hplip 3.11.10. I tried Precise on my daughter's computer (atom processor). Again, printer works, scanner does not.
I am sending you a PM about this.
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In 5.4.0.90, the problem with ePDFview not rendering colours correctly is still present.
While I appreciate the inclusion of YASSM and Network, I expect that many users will miss Pnethood if it has been working for them.
While I appreciate the inclusion of YASSM and Network, I expect that many users will miss Pnethood if it has been working for them.
mpscan update needed
The new Network rox app needs the updated mpscan from:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81808
to work satifactorily in some configurations
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81808
to work satifactorily in some configurations
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