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RSH


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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2014, 16:12    Post subject:  

ASRI éducation wrote:
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For three weeks, I test your utility.
PADS is really convenient.
Thank you very much!
Cordialement,

Thank you very much.

Though, be careful when using the Rox right-click-option of PaDS for big files.

A few days ago I did create a SFS Module of Octave3.2_3.2.4-12 from Ubuntu Repository.

It has downloaded 287 .deb files with a size in complete of 306 MB and PaDS has build a SFS Module sized 320 MB (from those 287 .deb files, assembled in a directory).

To build such huge SFS Modules by right-click-action at least 2 GB of RAM is recommended, since it will be build in RAM and currently there is no Option to choose a partition when using the right-click option of PaDS.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jul 2014, 08:53    Post subject:  

Hi.

Version 1.0.4 uploaded.

Link is in the first post.

Now it creates also SFS Modules for Slacko from .pet and .txz files.

GUI and right-click option.

Though I've tested in in Precise, test results from Slacko will be Welcome.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 10:41    Post subject:  

Hi Rainer

It seems so that PaDS doesn't be able to build the SFS for the Xombrero.pet

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=706751159&t=86060

why?

(the xombrero.pet works!)


Next question: have you somewhat analog with PaDS for *.tar.bz2 / *.tar.gz (those containing a binary package)?


Can we consider that the goal is an universal *.sfs usable in both normal puplets and lazyed puplets? Is the prefix LP2 useful?


And last question:

What ist to do to preserve the existence of SARA-B in a remastered version of puplet using your remaster suite *.pet (different from LazY, it seems that after remasteuring once the puplet will not be recognize as "Next Start" and the Setting and Greetings little windows opens Mad ...)

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 18:20    Post subject:  

Hallo oui.

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It seems so that PaDS doesn't be able to build the SFS for the Xombrero.pet

I have tested PaDS 1.0.4.

At 1st I've tested the installed version in L.A.S.S.I.E. which works and did successfully create the SFS Module from the xombrero-1.4.0.pet.

At the 2nd test I downloaded PaDS 1.0.4 and installed it into a fresh booted Precise Puppy 571 which created also successfully the SFS Module from the xombrero-1.4.0.pet.

Both tests in L.A.S.S.I.E. and Precise 571 were done once by the GUI (which is still the GUI from pets2sfsgui) and once by right-click-action (put the xombrero-1.4.0.pet into a directory for this and right-clicked this directory).

See attached image (just don't know what's going wrong when you tried this)

However, Xombrero didn't work in L.A.S.S.I.E. and it didn't work in Precise 571 (tested from SFS Module and from installed version). It is complaining a missing libicui18n.so.48 which might be just a symbolic link - don't know this. The Package Manager could not find this lib - maybe the Package Manager needs to be updated again.

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Next question: have you somewhat analog with PaDS for *.tar.bz2 / *.tar.gz (those containing a binary package)?

No, currently not. But I can add this to the ToDo list for the next PaDS update.

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Can we consider that the goal is an universal *.sfs usable in both normal puplets and lazyed puplets? Is the prefix LP2 useful?

It doesn't matter if the LP2_ prefix is used in the file name of the SFS or if it is not used. A LP2_xxx.sfs made for L.A.S.S.I.E. should work generally in Precise 571.

What does matter indeed, is: if you are adding the LP2_ prefix manually to the name of an SFS Module, you NEED to convert it to SFS P.L.U.S. format before using it to create a SARA-RSD Application with SARA-B and/or to create a SFS P.L.U.S. RunScript.

If you are creating a SFS Module directly by right-clicking a .pet package in LazY Puppy and/or L.A.S.S.I.E., the LP2_ prefix will be added automatically, because this function creates automatically a SFS Module already converted to SFS P.L.U.S. format.

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What ist to do to preserve the existence of SARA-B in a remastered version of puplet using your remaster suite *.pet)

You are referring to the LazY-Remaster-1.2.6.pet?

Just do NOT copy SARA-B into the Puppy's filesystem. Use it from a ext partition (sda1, sdc3 or whatever is a ext partition).

In L.A.S.S.I.E. just remove it from /usr/local/apps before remastering.

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(different from LazY, it seems that after remasteuring once the puplet will not be recognize as "Next Start" and the Setting and Greetings little windows opens Mad ...)

You are referring to the LazY-Remaster-1.2.6.pet?
Which Puppy did you try to remaster with this?

While doing these tests I found another small issue in SARA-B, which I will post in the SARA-B thread.
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 20:06    Post subject:  

Hello @RSH

Couple of Questions
  • Is this utility capable of combining multiple SFSs in to single SFS for SARA B planting into the desktop?
  • Or for some reason, is this restricted to PETs-DEBs into a SFS for SARA B planting into the desktop?
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 22:00    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Hello @RSH

Couple of Questions
  • Is this utility capable of combining multiple SFSs in to single SFS for SARA B planting into the desktop?
  • Or for some reason, is this restricted to PETs-DEBs into a SFS for SARA B planting into the desktop?
Curious

Hi, gcmartin.

PaDS and SARA-B are totally different and them are totally independent applications. You can use PaDS without SARA-B and revert.

I think oui justed posted this all into the PaDS thread because he is using SARA-B to run Applications directly from its SFS and creating the SFS Modules just using PaDS - though they can be build manually as well as they can be build with the SFS Combiner made by smokey01 (sorry, no link atm).

Currently PaDS can only handle .pet, .deb and .txz files to extract them and combine them into a single SFS. But -at least in theory- it should be expandable to handle all file types that can be extracted in Puppy Linux.

Since I'm using some code to extract .pet, .deb, .tar.gz, .gz, .rpm, .sfs, .txz and .xz files directly into a directory of a extracted Puppy main SFS to build L.A.S.S.I.E.'s main SFS from this directory, I could add all those file types to be useable in PaDS as well.

Will add this to my ToDo list for a next update of PaDS.

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jul 2014, 03:06    Post subject:  

In a live session of slacko PaDS fails to correctly create an sfs from debian packages and a pet. It seems only the pet is included. It correctly works in wary.
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jul 2014, 10:36    Post subject:  

watchdog wrote:
In a live session of slacko PaDS fails to correctly create an sfs from debian packages and a pet. It seems only the pet is included. It correctly works in wary.

As far as I know, Slacko doesn't use the .deb package format, so maybe there is just the app to extract .deb packages missing.

I should have placed also a direct link to the .deb extraction package.

Now added also to the first post.

Thanks for testing it.

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jul 2014, 02:05    Post subject:  

RSH wrote:
watchdog wrote:
In a live session of slacko PaDS fails to correctly create an sfs from debian packages and a pet. It seems only the pet is included. It correctly works in wary.

As far as I know, Slacko doesn't use the .deb package format, so maybe there is just the app to extract .deb packages missing.

I should have placed also a direct link to the .deb extraction package.

Now added also to the first post.

RSH


Now working in slacko with unrpm.pet installed. Sometimes debian packages work in slacko, too. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015, 23:23    Post subject: Working with multiple debs  

Hi All,

Just in case there are others who, like myself, can't read or forgot the instructions Lazy Puppy provided here, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=689908#689908 the way to handle any number of debs (or other packages) is to place them in an otherwise empty folder, browse until you see that folder, right-click it and select Combine to SFS from the drop-down menu.

Or warn someone if you right-click the folder and hold your breath waiting for "PaDS" to show up on the drop-down menu. Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 02:04    Post subject:  

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to place them in an otherwise empty folder

I'm not sure about it in 1.0.4, but it should work also if one puts just symbolic links into such folder. My current version 1.0.8 actually can do this.

Regarding to your PM and the issue that right-click option is set/locked to / to build the SFS, was already mentioned here.

Yes, this could be a problem when using small save files.

Though, since PaDS is creating SFS Modules, one can use PaDS to create a PaDS SFS out of the PaDS PET and using it in PUPMODE 5 (RAM only, no save file) to create the SFS Modules without to get in danger to mess up the save file - in case PaDS would have some still undiscovered errors/issues.

My current version 1.0.8 has a lot of new features (including multiple file selection in GUI now, plus a integrated Menu-Editor (.desktop files) appearing when creating a SFS, to add easily information for foreign languages, icon and wrapper script etc.pp.

I'm just waiting to be able to re-create my old E-Mail address to be able to send the password to it. Then I will be able to log on as RSH again and to update the first post after uploading the latest version of PaDS.

Don't know how long this old E-Mail address will continue to be locked by the provider...

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 07:04    Post subject:  

LazY Puppy wrote:
My current version 1.0.8 has a lot of new features

Good news!
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 17:02    Post subject:  

ASRI éducation wrote:
LazY Puppy wrote:
My current version 1.0.8 has a lot of new features

Good news!
Regards
PaDS may need to be updated on a new thread. @RSH has been missing for almost a year. This package does provide good need even though it is growing old.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015, 21:28    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
PaDS may need to be updated on a new thread. @RSH has been missing for almost a year. This package does provide good need even though it is growing old.

LazY Puppy, RSH, R-S-H wrote:
I'm just waiting to be able to re-create my old E-Mail address to be able to send the password to it. Then I will be able to log on as RSH again and to update the first post after uploading the latest version of PaDS.

Don't know how long this old E-Mail address will continue to be locked by the provider...

If I can't re-create my old E-Mail address by end of may 2015, I may decide to open a new topic for this. Probably a good Idea for a 2nd reason, since I've renamed it to X-PaDS/PaDs, where X-PaDS is the GUI part and PaDS remains as the right-click option.

Version 1.0.8 is now able to create SFS Modules from PET, DEB, SFS, TAR.GZ, TXZ and TAZPKG. Also it can handle the i386-linux-gnu directory from 32bit multi arch distros as well as the x86_64-linux-gnu directory from 64bit multi arch distros.

Also there is a list automatically saved, named after the SFS Module created, wherein all the file names are stored that have been used to create the SFS Module. So it could be rebuild later just by loading such a list - of course only, if the original packages are still existing at its original locations.

The X-PaDS GUI Program has some additions for combined/integrated work with my SFS P.L.U.S. 4.0.5-29 which I do plan to publish also.

There is also a new function included: collecting libraries from created SFS Modules.

This means to remove all the libraries from such SFS Modules and extracting those libraries into a separate SFS Module - so none of the libraries will be loaded doubled or tripled when using several SFS Modules at a time. Then just load the Library SFS Module first or turn it into a PET and install it

If the new SFS P.L.U.S. 4.0.5-29 is installed, this separate Library SFS Module will be marked to those SFS Modules (as a dependency) from where these libraries have been extracted. So, if a program from such SFS Module is executed by a SFS P.L.U.S. RunScript the Library SFS Module will be loaded automatically.

There are some more features like automated insert of program data into the .desktop files for foreign languages (to be edited afterwards in menu editor), automated renaming of .desktop files to have ability to keep menu entries for different versions of a program (like gimp in 2.6.11, 2.6.12, 2.7.1, 2.7.3 as is in my LazY Puppy), usable in full screen mode (window now re-sizable), saving its current geometry (opens up at last position/size next time) plus many more improvements that don't come to mind at the moment.

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Uuuppss

While making screenshots I found its current version number is 1.4.6 - NOT 1.0.8 (must have been another program, I'm currently working on)
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PostPosted: Wed 20 May 2015, 11:21    Post subject:  

Hi.

Here you can find my latest edition of X-PaDS/PaDS.

It is included into my SFS P.L.U.S. package and it will stay for at least 90 days after its last download.

!!! Needs to uninstall the previous version of PaDS at first !!!

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