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Pete22
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An Undistructable carolina kids version

#571 Post by Pete22 »

rg66: I understand your reluctance to offer a 500+m puppy. Puppy likes to be slim and trim.
I think one reason is there are important folks like Barry, who still has dial-up.
The repository that Barry has to upload to is also very so to download from.

Edit: Reread your message:
It sounds like you are having cost issues with big uploads. OK, ignore my request.
I was not aware that could be an issue. Sorry.


For me, however, to have a kids game puppy that was almost indestructible by them; and include
almost no maintenance by me would be worth the 10 to 20 minutes to download it from a fairly
good download repository like smokey01.

I don't know about others, but this Santa :wink: is thinking this would be a win-win situation for the kids
and their adult computer caretakers.

The price is certainly right. :D

Just a thought from a jolly elf,

er, hum...I mean Pete :wink:

PS
just let me know when you have a download available. It will be a welcome
addition for my little Carolina users. : :D
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I have some good news, and then some other news.

#572 Post by Pete22 »

Elroy: Thanks for reloading the iso.
I was able to get a download today with matching md5.
Without a savefile I was able to begin uploading lina 005.
The start up routine looked unremarkable. I even got to the
desktop which I was not able to before. I even saw the holiday
photo. Very cute.


Now for the bad news.
It took for ever to get to the desktop However, unlike when I had a bad download, it did not ask me
if I still wanted to do an autosync for the clock. I only got the message that the zdrive did not load,
and suggested that maybe it was in the wrong place. Unfortunately , that is not the case.

Then it jammed. alt control backspace did nothing. I had to hold down the off button to get out if there.

So I tried an upgrade from 4 to 5. A lot of things were not found as it tried to boot up and it
never started the upgrade process.

How can I help Pinpoint the problem?


Pete

elroy

Re: I have some good news, and then some other news.

#573 Post by elroy »

Pete22 wrote:Elroy: Thanks for reloading the iso.
I was able to get a download today with matching md5.
Without a savefile I was able to begin uploading lina 005.
The start up routine looked unremarkable. I even got to the
desktop which I was not able to before. I even saw the holiday
photo. Very cute.


Now for the bad news.
It took for ever to get to the desktop However, unlike when I had a bad download, it did not ask me
if I still wanted to do an autosync for the clock. I only got the message that the zdrive did not load,
and suggested that maybe it was in the wrong place. Unfortunately , that is not the case.

Then it jammed. alt control backspace did nothing. I had to hold down the off button to get out if there.

So I tried an upgrade from 4 to 5. A lot of things were not found as it tried to boot up and it
never started the upgrade process.

How can I help Pinpoint the problem?
As far as upgraidning goes, be sure you're not using the savefile from 004. You'll need to create a new one from 005. I haven't experienced any of the problems you're describing. The only thing that comes to mind is that either you're trying to use your 004 savefile, or you have a computer that is too old to run Carolina. Either way, neither will do. If you wish to upgrade, I'd highly suggest that you start fresh - 005 and create a new savefile. Without knowing exactly what you've done, I can't offer you any more info than that.

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Carolina 005

#574 Post by Pete22 »

Elroy:

All is well with my 005. As you probably suspected my problem was mostly user error.
When I got the new download I did a manual frugal install like I always do, or so I thought.
I have done it so many times, I just look for necessary files on the iso and move them over
to the hard drive, when I see them. The last part of that sentence is where I made the mistake.

Always before when I opened an iso all the files would show. But this time initrd.gz was hidden
I didn't see it, so I didn't load it. When I made a careful check for every file, I noticed it was missing
Went back to the iso and sure enough it was not showing. I changed the settings to show
hidden files and it popped up. If I had been paying better attention I would have noticed
Carolina always needs at least five files to load properly. Sorry for the worry.

Wondering why this file is showing up as a hidden file in 005 when it was not doing
that before? Regardless, of the reason, I will be more careful next time.

So glad to have Carolina up and working.

Pete

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#575 Post by okokoook »

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to every one!!! Happy Holidays

gcmartin

Save-session file problems with Carolina, too.

#576 Post by gcmartin »

Problem
Edit: The original problem description has been moved.
This problem affects ALL MODERN WOOF PUPs. its description has been moved to here.


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#577 Post by Bligh »

It appears that would not apply to booting from cd and saving to hdd.
Cheers

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package chooser

#578 Post by rg66 »

With elroy's help, I've edited the package chooser script to ask if you want to update the package list or not before opening the package manager. Save time and bandwidth.

I've also made a pet to open the uninstall window directly, bypassing the package manager. See the original post here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 489#672489
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#579 Post by Terry H »

Terry H wrote: I also have a new desktop which I haven't had a chance to run it on as yet. The desktop is a HP with AMD FX6100 processor with 10 GB RAM with Radeon 7450 discrete graphics with 1 GB RAM.
I did a frugal install on the desktop, everything works well except I can't get the screen resolution above 1280x1024, which it is defaulting to. Any attempts to adjust the resolution using the <probe> or <vesa> selections, leave the resolution unchanged at 1280x1024.

I have downloaded the latest AMD linux drivers (stable and also the beta version). The attempted installation returns that a compatible video card not found.

When I ran lspci | grep VGA the result did not show the "Radeon HD....", it only displayed "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc. Device 677b."

when i ran only lspci the line after the VGA controller displayed:

01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc. Caicos HDMI Audio [AMD Radeon 6450].

Any ideas?



Edit: I did a search and found references for the device 677b:
AMD Radeon HD 7400 Series NI 677B
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gcmartin

#580 Post by gcmartin »

Bligh wrote:It appears that would not apply to booting from cd and saving to hdd.
Cheers
Actually, it does. You see, should you boot from either of those methods and your system has a compressed NTFS that Microsoft allows such that you can get greater utilization of your HDD than you would normally, then when you attempt a Shutdown, and ask Carolina (or any newer PUPs) to save to the NTFS, your system will NOT reboot with the save information from your last session.

Therefore ALL of your work would be lost and you'd have to start over.

Main problem here is that any non-suspecting user would spend lots of time trying to figure out what the problem is.

Hope this helps understanding.

gcmartin

Console video font and display issue

#581 Post by gcmartin »

I have a current issue when booting using Live media. Seems that after reaching the Carolina desktop, the console (non-X text based console) fonts are very-very tiny and is replicated 3X across.

This is running from my laptop Pentium M 1.5 GHz with Intel video.

Is there something in either desktop or command which can be recommended? Is this a known problem with console session?

A system report is attached (needed to zip to upload).

Thanks in advance
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Re: Console video font and display issue

#582 Post by sheldonisaac »

gcmartin wrote:I have a current issue when booting using Live media. Seems that after reaching the Carolina desktop, the console (non-X text based console) fonts are very-very tiny and is replicated 3X across.

This is running from my laptop Pentium M 1.5 GHz with Intel video.
(I now think I misunderstood, sorry)

I booted this Dell D610 laptop Pentium M 2.13 GHz with Intel video from a 'lina-lite USB flashdrive with pfix=ram,nox ,

and the screen looked normal.

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Re: Console video font and display issue

#583 Post by Marv »

gcmartin wrote:I have a current issue when booting using Live media. Seems that after reaching the Carolina desktop, the console (non-X text based console) fonts are very-very tiny and is replicated 3X across.

This is running from my laptop Pentium M 1.5 GHz with Intel video.

Is there something in either desktop or command which can be recommended? Is this a known problem with console session?

A system report is attached (needed to zip to upload).

Thanks in advance
Not sure, but this might pertain to the non-X session. It's from an Arch Linux setup on a laptop with identical video chip and lcd resolution.
The laptop's TFT panel features a resolution of 1280x800, which however is not present on the i915 chipset's BIOS and one has to use KMS to support this resolution mode.

The video card (Intel GMA 4500MHD) has been supported by xf86-video-intel since the version of 2.6.0.
The link to the KMS info is:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/In ... _.28KMS.29
Pups currently in kennel :D Older LxPupSc and X-slacko-4.4 for my users; LxPupSc, LxPupSc64 and upupEF for me. All good pups indeed, and all running savefiles for look'n'feel only. Browsers, etc. solely from SFS.

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#584 Post by Bligh »

@gcmartin Thanks for the reply. That has not been an issue. If it becomes an issue, I can save to usb flash drive or sd card or copy a save file from a linux hdd to ext drive.
Cheers

gcmartin

FirstRUN cannot be found in Menus

#585 Post by gcmartin »

After the initial appearence of FirstRUN on initial boot, I cannot seem to find it.

Might it be made available in the Menu subsystem as well in the future?

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Happy New Year! virtualbox 4.2.6 r82870

#586 Post by jpup »

Happy New Year! :D

updated virtualbox to 4.2.6 r82870 for carolina 3.2.13-ski

includes extension pack...
guest additions ISO should be automatically detected now (on my previous package, I mistakenly placed the ISO in the wrong directory)

VirtualBox-4.2.6-82870-carolina-3.2.13-ski.sfs

VirtualBox-4.2.6-82870-carolina-3.2.13-ski.sfs-md5.txt

drag and drop seems to work on my backtrack guest, but not on my windows 8 guest

Thanks, Happy New Year! ;)
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#587 Post by xstylezx »

Hello, great release here with Carolina! Im just curious if there is a way to get chromium from this page to run?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 51&start=8

Shows some missing or incorrect version of glib if i remember correctly. The version in package manager is far to old to use as most extensions can't be installed and it lacks various other features I use from updates. Carolina and Lxpup are my favorites and I keep them both on thumbdrives, and latest chromium works on Lxpup. I love to use both puplets on different computers for various reasons, but really need to be able to have certain chromium extensions installed on both for syncing and other purposes. If this could be done or any help provided at all I'd be greatly thankful :D

gcmartin

Printer issues

#588 Post by gcmartin »

Anyone else having problems with Network printing?

My browser @localhost:631 is showing
Printer (Default Printer) "Filter "foomatic-rip" for printer "Printer" not available: No such file or directory"
for my printer.

Recommendations?

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#589 Post by Colonel Panic »

Testing 0.0.5 out now;it's working well. I like the Christmas themed wallpaper as well!
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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carolina 0.0.5 firefox update

#590 Post by jpup »

the latest firefox update - version 18 seems to break carolina's firefox?
I've tried it also with a stock carolina 0.0.5 and it's stock firefox 16.0.1 and firefox doesn't want to launch anymore.

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