Does anyone else not see inserted USB drives in the panel-plugin-mount unless they are mounted? The show up both on the desktop and in thunar and mount and unmount fine. As soon as unmounted, even if from the plugin itself they disappear from the plugin before being removed! sda1 and sda2 (ide) are fine. Vfat and Ext2 USB drives behave the same. Starting USB modeswitch or not makes no difference.
I know Geoffrey had a post on this in the Saluki forum but it wasn't resolved there so far as I know. I've tried several versions, currently running 5.5 and googled to no avail. This is true in Saluki 023 and in Carolina 002 non-PAE lite. Seems to me it did work in Saluki 021 but I'll have to boot that to check. Is it logical to assume this is a 4.8 to 4.10 growing pain? If so, I can certainly wait it out.
Of course pmount works from the panel just fine but the interface of the xfce4 plugin is just enough better to make me wish it worked.
Carolina - 1.3
xfce4-panel-plugin-mount
Pups currently in kennel :D Older LxPupSc and X-slacko-4.4 for my users; LxPupSc, LxPupSc64 and upupEF for me. All good pups indeed, and all running savefiles for look'n'feel only. Browsers, etc. solely from SFS.
Re: xfce4-panel-plugin-mount
Yeah that seems to be the case with the 4.10 upgrade, a number of 4.8 plugins no longer function correctly, the mounter plugin was handy, I also tried to get it working with USB , but no joy.Marv wrote:Does anyone else not see inserted USB drives in the panel-plugin-mount unless they are mounted? The show up both on the desktop and in thunar and mount and unmount fine. As soon as unmounted, even if from the plugin itself they disappear from the plugin before being removed! sda1 and sda2 (ide) are fine. Vfat and Ext2 USB drives behave the same. Starting USB modeswitch or not makes no difference.
I know Geoffrey had a post on this in the Saluki forum but it wasn't resolved there so far as I know. I've tried several versions, currently running 5.5 and googled to no avail. This is true in Saluki 023 and in Carolina 002 non-PAE lite. Seems to me it did work in Saluki 021 but I'll have to boot that to check. Is it logical to assume this is a 4.8 to 4.10 growing pain? If so, I can certainly wait it out.
Of course pmount works from the panel just fine but the interface of the xfce4 plugin is just enough better to make me wish it worked.
I have also tried to get the weather plugin to work here in Australia, but have had no luck, it works for elroy in the US though, has anyone been able to get it to function outside of the US?
[b]Carolina:[/b] [url=http://smokey01.com/carolina/pages/recent-repo.html]Recent Repository Additions[/url]
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yeah, i also found a little weird thing about carolina 002. in carolina 001, when i view files in sfs using sfs-loader, there will be a icon like "loop4" shown in the thunar sidebar after the sfs has been opened, but in carolina 002, there is no such thing to happen. i was just curious about it.
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Thank you, but there is no reason to be nasty, there is a thing called etiquette, which is the norm,
you are quite welcome to make comment, contribute ideas and make request, we don't hold grudges.
Geoffrey
Thank you, but there is no reason to be nasty, there is a thing called etiquette, which is the norm,
you are quite welcome to make comment, contribute ideas and make request, we don't hold grudges.
Geoffrey
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[b]Carolina:[/b] [url=http://smokey01.com/carolina/pages/recent-repo.html]Recent Repository Additions[/url]
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Wow. I don't even know what to say, other than that this is probably the most immature, self-promoting thing I've ever seen on the murga forum. Hopefully Flash will deal with this accordingly. This is akin to spam.mufeed2012 wrote:I don't like this Puppy Derivative. It does not have good looks like LXPup & It is not as functional as LXPup too. So I don't like this one. Everybody use LXPup instead of this Puppy Derivative. And If you don't like LXPup more than this then come back to this one or try:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 8&start=15
Thanks.
Certainly every one is entitled to their opinion. However, to do so in this manner and then post a link to your own ISO minutes from it's upload being completed, that runs counter to the spirit of community.
unable to get Carolina 002 running.
I copied the files in the ISO to a folder called Carolina on my HD (SDA1). When I used Grub4Dos to build the boot menu, it didn't show up. Am I doing something wrong?
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Hi
although there is some rather wierd looking icons in that first pic.
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It appears to be working here in the UK,Geoffrey wrote:...I have also tried to get the weather plugin to work here in Australia, but have had no luck, it works for elroy in the US though, has anyone been able to get it to function outside of the US?
although there is some rather wierd looking icons in that first pic.
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Don't think I will book a holiday to the Bahamas then - looks like it must be in the flightpath of one of those Boeings with the faulty loo valves...CatDude wrote:although there is some rather wierd looking icons in that first pic.
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@CThisBear, I have experienced this with ALL recent builds of PUPs in the last 45 days using Frisbee. I have NOT experienced this with Dougal's version.cthisbear wrote:" Sometimes....very infrequently in Frisbee you have to
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I am NOT promoting anything, here, with this post. I am indicating what I, too, have experienced in using Frisbee with most recent versions of PUPs.
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Grub4Dos not finding Carolina 002
Hi rmcellig,
Just a guess, but I noticed your carolina folder is named "carolina 002". Note the space between carolina and 002. I'm not sure Grub4Dos knows what to do with a name divided by a space. Try renaming the folder to carolina002.
mikesLr
p.s. It's not necessary to run Grub4Dos everytime you install a new Puplet. If Grub4Dos is already installed browse to the drive on which Grub4Dos was installed and open menu.lst in a text editor.In most puppies, left-clicking it will open it in geany. If your replacing one Pup for another, scroll to the Title of the old Pup, and type a new title. Unless you want it, you can leave the drive/partition and folder ID out of the title. Grub4Dos doesn't use it; just displays it for your benefit. Scroll to and high-light the first listing of the old folder. For example, the second line of my precise non-PAE reads:
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /precise2/initrd.gz
So I would highlight precise2. While highlighted, Click geany's menu-bar "Search" and then select replace. A dialogue will open showing precise2 in the find field and asking for a name in the replace field. You could type in carolina002. You can choose either replace or replace all. If the former you'll have to replace each instance of precise2. But it's safer if, for example you are replacing precise, but already have a precise2 and are adding a precise3.
Edited 10/29. When you're finished replacing, scroll to the line which reads:
kernel /precise2/vmlinuz psubdir=precise2 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
and change the last argument to read pfix=fsck,ram.
That will prevent your new Pup from inadvertently using the SaveFile from an previously installed Pup. [Remember to remove the ",ram" before rebooting, after you've configured your new Pup].
When you're finished editing the new listing, click geany's Save.
If you're adding, rather than replacing, scroll to the blank space following the last line of a listing, such as
initrd /precise2/initrd.gz
and press return a couple of time to give yourself some room. Then scroll to the beginning of title line of a listing, left-click and highlight the entire listing and click Edit (on geany's Menu) copy. Scroll to the space you created, right-click and select paste. Use find-replace as above.
Modifying menu.lst rather than re-installing Grub4Dos saves wear and tear on a drives boot record.
Just a guess, but I noticed your carolina folder is named "carolina 002". Note the space between carolina and 002. I'm not sure Grub4Dos knows what to do with a name divided by a space. Try renaming the folder to carolina002.
mikesLr
p.s. It's not necessary to run Grub4Dos everytime you install a new Puplet. If Grub4Dos is already installed browse to the drive on which Grub4Dos was installed and open menu.lst in a text editor.In most puppies, left-clicking it will open it in geany. If your replacing one Pup for another, scroll to the Title of the old Pup, and type a new title. Unless you want it, you can leave the drive/partition and folder ID out of the title. Grub4Dos doesn't use it; just displays it for your benefit. Scroll to and high-light the first listing of the old folder. For example, the second line of my precise non-PAE reads:
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /precise2/initrd.gz
So I would highlight precise2. While highlighted, Click geany's menu-bar "Search" and then select replace. A dialogue will open showing precise2 in the find field and asking for a name in the replace field. You could type in carolina002. You can choose either replace or replace all. If the former you'll have to replace each instance of precise2. But it's safer if, for example you are replacing precise, but already have a precise2 and are adding a precise3.
Edited 10/29. When you're finished replacing, scroll to the line which reads:
kernel /precise2/vmlinuz psubdir=precise2 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
and change the last argument to read pfix=fsck,ram.
That will prevent your new Pup from inadvertently using the SaveFile from an previously installed Pup. [Remember to remove the ",ram" before rebooting, after you've configured your new Pup].
When you're finished editing the new listing, click geany's Save.
If you're adding, rather than replacing, scroll to the blank space following the last line of a listing, such as
initrd /precise2/initrd.gz
and press return a couple of time to give yourself some room. Then scroll to the beginning of title line of a listing, left-click and highlight the entire listing and click Edit (on geany's Menu) copy. Scroll to the space you created, right-click and select paste. Use find-replace as above.
Modifying menu.lst rather than re-installing Grub4Dos saves wear and tear on a drives boot record.
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Grub4dos menu.lst
Nice summary, Mikeslr.
In addition to my more stable system folders, I keep a folder named experimental in the Boot partition and an entry for it in menu.lst. Then if I want to quickly try something out, I just mount the relevant iso image and copy the relevant files into experimental and reboot to it. If it's worth pursuing, I copy it to its own folder, if not, it gets permanently removed. Praise to thunar and its custom actions on rightclick.
edited: Not for the faint of heart, but I have changed the command in thunars permanently remove custom action to just rm -rf %F (with an appropriate LARGE red icon). I do enough shuffling and jiving so I like not being nagged. Running frugal, I always have a savefile backup and yes, even the poweroff button before the next save.
In addition to my more stable system folders, I keep a folder named experimental in the Boot partition and an entry for it in menu.lst. Then if I want to quickly try something out, I just mount the relevant iso image and copy the relevant files into experimental and reboot to it. If it's worth pursuing, I copy it to its own folder, if not, it gets permanently removed. Praise to thunar and its custom actions on rightclick.
edited: Not for the faint of heart, but I have changed the command in thunars permanently remove custom action to just rm -rf %F (with an appropriate LARGE red icon). I do enough shuffling and jiving so I like not being nagged. Running frugal, I always have a savefile backup and yes, even the poweroff button before the next save.
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Pups currently in kennel :D Older LxPupSc and X-slacko-4.4 for my users; LxPupSc, LxPupSc64 and upupEF for me. All good pups indeed, and all running savefiles for look'n'feel only. Browsers, etc. solely from SFS.
Grub4dos menu.lst
Nice addition Marv. Good tip.
I've edited the instructions above for modifying menu.lst as I had left out the step to prevent inadvertently using the SaveFile from an already installed Pup.
mikesLr
I've edited the instructions above for modifying menu.lst as I had left out the step to prevent inadvertently using the SaveFile from an already installed Pup.
mikesLr
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GRUB4DOS has a wonderful feature when it is used from the Menu.
The feature will find (or attempt to find) bootable entries on behalf of the user as it builds its menu.lst during installation.
I think (but understand I say "I think") that the reason for continued re-use of GRUB4DOS by those who are not as familiar with its configuration file would be to get GRUB4DOS to do all the work of properly tailoring the menu.lst.
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The feature will find (or attempt to find) bootable entries on behalf of the user as it builds its menu.lst during installation.
I think (but understand I say "I think") that the reason for continued re-use of GRUB4DOS by those who are not as familiar with its configuration file would be to get GRUB4DOS to do all the work of properly tailoring the menu.lst.
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Elroy and geofrey,
Please don't stop this wonderful project of developing carolina.
I am also a big fan of saluki 023.
It cannot be denied that Jejy69 is doing a very wonderful project with lxde multipup. And there is great potentials in precise_lxde multi.
But carolina, like saluki is based on Racy.
Racy has many pets and sfs that works well.
Precise puppy lx and carolina/saluki are my favourite puppy linux.
Precise has a lot of hopes because of ubuntu. Carolina useful because of racy power and well integrated xfce4.
(i also used to like macpup and its e17 implementation. But i need to know that i can have the ability to use compiz if needed. Compiz has 1 feature that i need from time to time. And that is its 'enhanced desktop zooming.' Racy and precise based puppies appears to have the abilities to run compiz well. Yes, macpup is also based on precise but at the moment my favourite precised based puppy is the one that allows mate, lxde, cinnamon, kde.)
Keep it up! I am happy when i see what BK is doing as well as people like you, Jejy69, micko and others. This is a nice community and it helps to know that without having to use bloated microsoft windows or bloated linux, one have to chance to do useful things on a not expensive laptop/desktop. Hopefully, in future, on arms tablets. Thanks!
Please don't stop this wonderful project of developing carolina.
I am also a big fan of saluki 023.
It cannot be denied that Jejy69 is doing a very wonderful project with lxde multipup. And there is great potentials in precise_lxde multi.
But carolina, like saluki is based on Racy.
Racy has many pets and sfs that works well.
Precise puppy lx and carolina/saluki are my favourite puppy linux.
Precise has a lot of hopes because of ubuntu. Carolina useful because of racy power and well integrated xfce4.
(i also used to like macpup and its e17 implementation. But i need to know that i can have the ability to use compiz if needed. Compiz has 1 feature that i need from time to time. And that is its 'enhanced desktop zooming.' Racy and precise based puppies appears to have the abilities to run compiz well. Yes, macpup is also based on precise but at the moment my favourite precised based puppy is the one that allows mate, lxde, cinnamon, kde.)
Keep it up! I am happy when i see what BK is doing as well as people like you, Jejy69, micko and others. This is a nice community and it helps to know that without having to use bloated microsoft windows or bloated linux, one have to chance to do useful things on a not expensive laptop/desktop. Hopefully, in future, on arms tablets. Thanks!
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We're not going anywhere soon. We've been busy with development. And it certainly helps when other forum members can answer questions that others have posted. More than you know. Together we're not as talented as jemimah, and perhaps we're certainly slower concerning the end result, but perhaps together we're more thorough. We've been doing our best to move this thing forward. We're fast approaching a time when we'll be incompatible with Saluki due to various additions.pchan wrote:Elroy and geofrey,
Please don't stop this wonderful project of developing carolina
We're a very modified puppy...a niche distro, and we're well aware of that fact. We're not out to win any popularity contests. We're here to provide those that find Carolina useful with a great experience, and hopefully a solid intro to Puppy Linux. If a said user finds a more useful Puppy distro down the road, or becomes more confident in their linux journey, then that would be satisfactory. Our sole aim is to be an effective bridge between Windows/Mac and Puppy Linux. We have no illusions as to being the next "official" puppy linux, nor do we think we should be.
You're right, Jejy69 is doing some good things concerning puppy. All puppy distros are related, and by no means are we offended if someone chooses to use a different puppy distro. We're all for choice and user preference; if it works for you, and if you like it, then that's a good thing.
Currently, Geoffrey has been working on a home-brew web-cam app, and I've been working on migrating carolina to a totally xfce04.10 base, plugins and all. I've accomplished that, and carolina 003 will reflect that. Also, it will include the latest version of the pup-volume-manager, ene sdcard reader support, the latest Grub4Dos, and the latest pup-shutdown. As of 003, xfce4-4.8.0 will be history.. Look for 003 within the next week.
That said, I have no bone to pick with mufeed2012 or anikin - again, my sole purpose is to advance Puppy-Linux. That said, so long as you can add to the conversation in a respectful manner, I'm all for hearing your voice. I welcome differing opinions. It helps to visualize what's needed.
Frankly, your tolerance and persistence easily outweighs raw talent and engenders loyalty and responsiveness!we're not as talented as jemimah
Geoff should beware of the webcam grave judging by the plethora of devices and legions of hopefuls that've passed through this Forum. Whatever happened to 'biker' ? He seemed to have a handle on the most obscure units but his website was immobile last time I looked a year or so back.
No need to parrot Windydoze, though. Xfce seems to be the first choice of some of the most respected gurus in the game according to my private correspondence.
Just one issue to consider: please 'Trim the Fat'. Everything Puppy is getting far too big. The project started ~30Mb .iso and was intended to be a compact distro. All the dogs in town can consume a liveCD-RW , many want to spill well into DVD-RW territory. It's not a question of cost or availability of discs, shiny new HW capability, etc., more a matter of time for testing and deployment. Crafty coding, clever SW selection is the more skilled: worth revisiting John's MeanPup every so-often to appreciate the art of the possible.
Carolina 002 Feedback
Thanks for this wonderful release...
This version is special to me since it shares the same name with my girlfriend. I hope you guys will continue to develop it.
Works pretty good although I have encountered some minor problems.
I did a frugal install to a 1 Gb mini SD card on my Asus 1215B (AMD E 450)
really amazing how it could run on such a small storage device.
CPU scaling works, selected the K8, and on demand, I can switch via the notification panel, just like the asus super hybrid engine on windows, I wish I could set middle clock speeds for the performance mode (I want it to max to just 1.3GHz on performance not all the way to 1.6, and 1.6 when on turbo)
It feels a bit slower than precise, but I haven't really tinkered with the graphics drivers, and maybe the transparency effect I've added eats up more resources (just xfce settings, no compiz added yet, I really love xfce)
Wireless works, but there are a few issues. I'm also using an external USB card (RTL8187), it works well but, cant seem to use it with frisbee, since I cant select it as the active interface, it seems like frisbee sees both cards active and the tab for changing interfaces is greyed out.
You can still scan and try to connect but you get the cant set ssid error.
I'm currently just using the SNS, and it woks fine, but sometimes I get weird network behavior, I can stream radio, even video via umplayer, but surfing on the web browsers is really slow, and usually end up in time out errors. This happens occasionally. Also, it is best to boot up with the usb wifi card already connected, seems that wireless works better when it's set as wlan0 by the system, and the panel icon works better, you get the cross on the icon when you right click to select the disconnect from network, which should be how it works, this doesn't happen if you connect the usb card only after boot. Reconnect also works. I also experience some trouble with that icon after applying transparency effects. Now I need to right click and hold to select the options, otherwise, it will select whatever if you release it.
I love umplayer by the way, although its kind of slow, probably because of the graphics drivers, and umplayer still needs some functions sorted out.
There is this annoying issue with the mouse pointer, if you click on a window's title bar (or edges, any place related to moving or resizing a window) while it is behind another window, you lose control of the mouse, it becomes a cross, you can move the pointer but you can't click anything, and the only remedy is to do an ALT+TAB to regain the control.
Also I think some things should not be able to have multiple instances, because it will cause trouble.
PPM works good, but I think the single click to select should be changed to double click for easier navigation and to avoid accidents.
Pupsave issues... system keeps saving even if the auto save function is disabled.
Can't seem to load a savefile from the HDD when booting from the sd card install, works with the live CD.
wine works, got some of my windows apps running, but mostly portable versions.
weather plugin works
vlc seems to have issues with gst-ffmpeg, keeps saying its missing eventhough its been installed.
sensors seem to work, but I cant get conky to show cpu temps, or I just don't know how,
I've been using mostly buntu based distros in the past. I think the concept of the puppy running on RAM is great idea, really responsive system and such a small fingerprint. And I hope you guys keep up the good work.
thank you very much. looking forward to new updates and releases.
sorry for typos/errors/whatever, if there are any, the touchpad is annoying when typing, cant seem to disable it.
This version is special to me since it shares the same name with my girlfriend. I hope you guys will continue to develop it.
Works pretty good although I have encountered some minor problems.
I did a frugal install to a 1 Gb mini SD card on my Asus 1215B (AMD E 450)
really amazing how it could run on such a small storage device.
CPU scaling works, selected the K8, and on demand, I can switch via the notification panel, just like the asus super hybrid engine on windows, I wish I could set middle clock speeds for the performance mode (I want it to max to just 1.3GHz on performance not all the way to 1.6, and 1.6 when on turbo)
It feels a bit slower than precise, but I haven't really tinkered with the graphics drivers, and maybe the transparency effect I've added eats up more resources (just xfce settings, no compiz added yet, I really love xfce)
Wireless works, but there are a few issues. I'm also using an external USB card (RTL8187), it works well but, cant seem to use it with frisbee, since I cant select it as the active interface, it seems like frisbee sees both cards active and the tab for changing interfaces is greyed out.
You can still scan and try to connect but you get the cant set ssid error.
I'm currently just using the SNS, and it woks fine, but sometimes I get weird network behavior, I can stream radio, even video via umplayer, but surfing on the web browsers is really slow, and usually end up in time out errors. This happens occasionally. Also, it is best to boot up with the usb wifi card already connected, seems that wireless works better when it's set as wlan0 by the system, and the panel icon works better, you get the cross on the icon when you right click to select the disconnect from network, which should be how it works, this doesn't happen if you connect the usb card only after boot. Reconnect also works. I also experience some trouble with that icon after applying transparency effects. Now I need to right click and hold to select the options, otherwise, it will select whatever if you release it.
I love umplayer by the way, although its kind of slow, probably because of the graphics drivers, and umplayer still needs some functions sorted out.
There is this annoying issue with the mouse pointer, if you click on a window's title bar (or edges, any place related to moving or resizing a window) while it is behind another window, you lose control of the mouse, it becomes a cross, you can move the pointer but you can't click anything, and the only remedy is to do an ALT+TAB to regain the control.
Also I think some things should not be able to have multiple instances, because it will cause trouble.
PPM works good, but I think the single click to select should be changed to double click for easier navigation and to avoid accidents.
Pupsave issues... system keeps saving even if the auto save function is disabled.
Can't seem to load a savefile from the HDD when booting from the sd card install, works with the live CD.
wine works, got some of my windows apps running, but mostly portable versions.
weather plugin works
vlc seems to have issues with gst-ffmpeg, keeps saying its missing eventhough its been installed.
sensors seem to work, but I cant get conky to show cpu temps, or I just don't know how,
I've been using mostly buntu based distros in the past. I think the concept of the puppy running on RAM is great idea, really responsive system and such a small fingerprint. And I hope you guys keep up the good work.
thank you very much. looking forward to new updates and releases.
sorry for typos/errors/whatever, if there are any, the touchpad is annoying when typing, cant seem to disable it.