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#1516 Post by Geoffrey »

Compiled and added qupzilla-1.8.4 to the repo
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#1517 Post by edoc »

Thanks for the qupzilla update!

qupzilla-1.8.4

Does this one not throw all of the certificate errors that prior versions did?

There is some interesting changelog/discussion here:
http://blog.qupzilla.com/2014/11/qupzil ... eased.html

Also, here:
https://github.com/QupZilla/qupzilla/wiki/FAQ

Apparently Firefox & Chrome extensions cannot be supported.

It's unclear how widespread of a challenge this may present on sites visited or if a standard may develop on the Internet where site code tests for the browser and presents a different version for qupzilla & Midori w/o Firefox & Chrome extensions?
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#1518 Post by yerc1 »

Just an update on running Carolina on my Toshiba Chromebook cb30

I found a boot option that allowed battleshooter's lina k3.17 to run on the cb.
puppy acpi=off pfix=nox

The 2 things I know that don't work: touchpad & wireless.

Touchpad
I posted before that adding kernel 3.17 to bodhi linux enabled the cb touchpad.
synclient in Carolina gives me "Couldn't find synaptic properties. No synaptic driver loaded?"

Wireless
The chromebook wireless works in x-slacko.
In Carolina, all options in 'Configure Wireless Networks' of Frisbee are greyed out.

I appreciate any advice to make the 2 hardwares work.

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#1519 Post by Geoffrey »

edoc wrote:Does this one not throw all of the certificate errors that prior versions did?
I didn't get any certificate errors on a clean run in ram, if you have a list of sites that throw errors could you please post them for testing.

To check if you have certificates look in /etc/ssl/certs

If you are running Carolite there are no certificates installed, I made a package ssl_certificates.pet
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Re: Carolina with 3.17 kernel

#1520 Post by Marv »

battleshooter wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:I had a similar problem with Carolina/Saluki and a Acer E525 using "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
That sounds about right. I know the laptop I have uses an integrated graphics card, Intel too I believe. I'll give it a go when I get the chance. The thing is though, the laptop works fine with normal Carolina kernel so I'm more inclined to believe it's a kernel issue.
Another Intel guy here. I'm pretty sure it is indeed a kernel issue. I've been working on getting Carolina 1.2, X-slacko 2.2, and LxPupTahr running on some new mobos using the intel j1900 Bay Trail-D processor. A kernel newer than 3.11/3.12 is required to get USB support so I was using Battleshooters 3.17 in Carolina and the 3.14.20 from LxPupTahr in it and X-slacko. I've dropped back to 3.14.20 for all three as 3.17 had video problems with the i915 modesetting driver both on the new mobos and on my Pentium M all intel laptop. Maybe the following means something to you:

From all the 3.14.20 OSs

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# dmesg | grep drm
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[drm] Memory usable by graphics device = 128M
[drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
[drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
[drm] initialized overlay support
fbcon: inteldrmfb (fb0) is primary device
i915 0000:00:02.0: fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
[drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0
# 
From the 3.17 kerneled Carolina

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# dmesg | grep drm
[   22.237626] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[   22.333726] [drm] Memory usable by graphics device = 128M
[   22.333733] [drm] Replacing VGA console driver
[   22.338818] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
[   22.338824] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
[   22.371242] [drm:i9xx_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* pipe A underrun
[   22.397932] [drm] initialized overlay support
[   22.421518] [drm:i9xx_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* pipe A underrun
[   22.520101] fbcon: inteldrmfb (fb0) is primary device
[   22.520612] i915 0000:00:02.0: fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
[   22.520629] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20140725 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0
[   23.515356] [drm:i9xx_check_fifo_underruns] *ERROR* pipe B underrun
[   23.558662] [drm:i9xx_check_fifo_underruns] *ERROR* pipe B underrun
[   23.572573] [drm:i9xx_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* pipe A underrun
[   23.735916] [drm:i9xx_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* pipe A underrun
[   28.345733] [drm:i9xx_check_fifo_underruns] *ERROR* pipe B underrun
[   28.579405] [drm:i9xx_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* pipe A underrun
[   28.713408] [drm:i9xx_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* pipe A underrun
[   28.936717] [drm:i9xx_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* pipe A underrun
# 
    
In any event, all three pups are behaving well both on the 2005 era laptops (with busybox acpi cribbed from slacko 5.9.3) and on the new j1900 based mobos. I'm pleased enough to get that :)
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#1521 Post by Geoffrey »

Just having a play, compiled xfdesktop 4.11.3, this has the ability to set a background for each work space.

The only problem I encountered was when dragging a menu item to the desktop, if the icon is a xpm the icon don't show, dragging to the panel is fine, easily fixed by using the rightclick on it and edit the launcher, if the icon is shown then just select save.

jemimah fixed this in saluki but left no clues, I've had a bit of a search but found nothing in regard to this.
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Re: Carolina with 3.17 kernel

#1522 Post by battleshooter »

@Marv

Thanks for piping in Marv. Hmm. The 3.17 kernel came with a host of graphical upgrades. Maybe they're not stable enough or Puppy's X is incompatible, or we need to disable the existing drivers. It something I'm very keen to look at with all these bug reports coming in, I've had a lot of ideas, but unfortunately, I've had a very busy week.

@yerc1

Glad to hear you're one step closer.

The touch pad can apparently be solved with a kernel update, so that's easy enough. The wireless... My kernels seem to have trouble with that, haven't quite mastered that I guess. What's the model number of the wireless?

@Gobbi

I'll suppose your post was just an update, as I'm sure you know I know nothing about raid :)
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Re: Carolina with 3.17 kernel

#1523 Post by Gobbi »

battleshooter wrote: @Gobbi

I'll suppose your post was just an update, as I'm sure you know I know nothing about raid :)
You're right ! Your help served me well , I was able to make good use of it , thank you !

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Re: Carolina with 3.17 kernel

#1524 Post by Gobbi »

Sorry ! Double post :oops:

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#1525 Post by Moat »

rokytnji wrote:Well, I tried the
Updated xfce weather plugin version .0.8.4, added to the repo, get it with the PPM
Still "No Data" for Rok. Even though the patched one works for you guys.
Hey Rok, just a thought here - I had some trouble a while back with the weather plugin not providing data on my end, and it turned out to be a time-sync snafu with the overseas data provider's server. I went to Control Panel>System>Personalize-Settings, and unticked "Use UTC Hardware Clock" on the LH side - then made sure the drop-down menu just above was set to my country/state (US/Michigan - in my case).

Might be worth a shot.

IIRC, Puppy defaults to using UTC at first boot, and that's where the problem was.

I may have re-sync'd the time server via Control Panel>System>Psync time server syncroniser afterwards... but can't remember.

Maybe the recent Daylight Savings Time change knocked things askew...!

The latest weather plugin version 0.8.4 has been working flawless for me, so far (thanks Geoffrey!!).

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#1526 Post by rokytnji »

Thanks Bob, I;ll check it out later. :D

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#1527 Post by Geoffrey »

I found since updating openssl, svn no longer worked, a openssl version mismatch.

I compiled the latest subversion-1.8.10, this also required an updated sqlite.

I'll post the links to these here for the time being, so that they can be tested, they should be ok from the tests that I've done, but you never know.

These are only needed if you have updated to openssl-1.0.1j-i486 which is in the PPM

subversion-1.8.10-i486.pet

Dependencies

serf-1.3.8-i486.pet

sqlite-3.8.7.2-i486.pet

Also updated to bleachbit-1.6-i486 in PPM.
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Re: Carolina with 3.17 kernel

#1528 Post by yerc1 »

battleshooter wrote:@yerc1

Glad to hear you're one step closer.

The touch pad can apparently be solved with a kernel update, so that's easy enough. The wireless... My kernels seem to have trouble with that, haven't quite mastered that I guess. What's the model number of the wireless?
As excited as a kid waiting for christmas :-)

The wireless is Atheros.
Fatdog64 sees it as Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01).

The Hardinfo report from Fatdog64-700 beta is attached. Hope it might help.

Posting from my chromebook running Fatdog.
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Re: Carolina with 3.17 kernel

#1529 Post by battleshooter »

yerc1 wrote:As excited as a kid waiting for christmas :-)
Haha, at the rate things are going on this end, it might be a Christmas present.
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#1530 Post by edoc »

How would you respond to a request like this re. a Linux replacement for MS?

Note: This is a former acquaintance from FL - too far for me to set this up for him. He's in his late 70's & was a communications repair tech. He has moderate computer user skills.

He says his hardware is 64-bit "Toshiba laptop that came with Win 8.1 (HATE 8.1) but I was able to install Win7 by disabling secure boot, entering legacy mode"
Just a little FYI: I HATE COMPUTERS AND MOSTLY MICROSOFT!

I am on a mission to get rid of MS and need your help; What is the easiest version of what you use?

I use the machine mostly for email and a little surfing the web.

A download link would really be nice. . . . . .
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#1531 Post by battleshooter »

Edoc wrote: How would you respond to a request like this re. a Linux replacement for MS?
Hmmm, I'd say Carolina's the way to go but I think it's pretty clear I'm biased. The tricky thing is hardware. Will everything work out of the box? I think that's a pretty important thing for someone who "HATES COMPUTERS" ;) The last thing they'll have the patience for is chasing down drivers and dmesgs.

What would be ideal is if you could test a Pup on his laptop and smooth out any hardware issues, so hopefully when he sits down to do his browsing and Puppy boots quickly, the internet connects without issue, he'll be blown away by Puppy's efficiency :)

At the risk of sidetracking, I recently gave someone a USB with Carolina and setup their laptop to boot from USB. Included on the USB was a savefile I arranged with shortcuts to "My Documents" and a psuedo "My Computer". As they were using a 3G dongle for internet, I got wvdial to start on boot so they would have internet from the get-go and stuck a Firefox icon on the desktop. Maybe something like that will work for your acquaintance? The thing about the USB is it isn't permanent, changes nothing on the target computer. Nice and physical too, most people can understand, USB in: Linux on USB out: Linux off. No need to mess with GRUB, they can go back to wallow in Windows and continue their life without Puppy anytime they wish. It's the ultimate non-commitment :P
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#1532 Post by edoc »

Will Carolina 1.2 make good use of his 64-bit hardware?

I though it was optimized for 32-bit.

I like the USB stick idea.

I have to boot from USB on my HP pavilion g7 due to the evil empire's no-choice UEFI nastiness. :x
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#1533 Post by battleshooter »

edoc wrote:Will Carolina 1.2 make good use of his 64-bit hardware?
Does he normally take advantage of his 64-bit hardware? He might not notice or care if the system does everything he wants without breaking a sweat. If not, Fatdog it is I guess. That's the only 64-bit Pup we have right? It's pretty cutting edge too from what I last noticed.
edoc wrote:I have to boot from USB on my HP pavilion g7 due to the evil empire's no-choice UEFI nastiness.
Feel your pain man. I thought a laptop I was working on was doomed to a Puppy USB existence but I think it was wiping the partition table that sorted it. Of course you wipe the drive, but it didn't have anything on it anyway.
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#1534 Post by greengeek »

battleshooter wrote: Fatdog it is I guess. That's the only 64-bit Pup we have right? It's pretty cutting edge too from what I last noticed.
Pretty sure there is a 64 bit Slacko, and also a 64bit pup from Iguleder.

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#1535 Post by edoc »

I'm using Lighthouse 64 on this laptop.

He's not a sophisticated user - the 64-bit resource was, presumably, used by his MS version of windows - I don't know that he'd notice the difference.
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