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FFMM20130610

#91 Post by L18L »

Bert wrote: :arrow: Search configurable context lines and geometry of result

The first two I understand, but I cannot digest the third one without a (polite) burb :shock:
If I'm allowed some humour, I think his coding voodoo is now also infecting his human-readable-output :lol:
Search: the "new" way to find anything inside mo files
configurable context lines: number of lines before found search term and number of lines before found search term
configurable geometry of result: geometry of a rectanlgle is WiDTH and HEIGHT 8)
Bert wrote: I've been staring at this screenshot, wondering how it was done

Image,
because here it looks like this, also in the latest FFMM:

Image

Apologies if I missed the obvious.
I am not sure if I understand your question.
It was done using with mtPaint-snapshot. I do not see any relevant difference in the two images. :?
Bert wrote:Preferences-questions:

Image

"ISIN" would be understandable if named "ISUP2D8"?
(same for "NOTIN": NOTUP2D8"?)
But a smiley and the symbol for refresh are understandable?
I could change the configuration file saying something like
If you do not understand anything then do not touch.
Bert wrote:SEPARATOR: Will it change from '<=>' to '->' at some point and why? And how to interpret 'different from ISIN and NOTIN' ?
SEPARATOR is one character and separates "base name" from "path/base name".
Change it for example to ☺ (which is NOT different from ISIN) and momanager could not work as before. :wink:

Thinking about next version now
which will have no choices of changing SEPARATOR ISIN and NOTIN

Answered with the greatest respect!
And again, thanks for your feed back :D
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#92 Post by L18L »

simplified configuration now, thanks Bert :D
have fun


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#93 Post by AbdelAziz »

Hi L18L

Using latest version, in SSS domain, i select desk_string.ar
when i click Edit the Momanager windows hide then show and nothing else happens!

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#94 Post by L18L »

AbdelAziz wrote:Using latest version, in SSS domain, i select desk_string.ar
when i click Edit the Momanager windows hide then show and nothing else happens!
Thanks for reporting this.
Repairing this might take some time for me.

But if you like you now can simply use yudit
and edit your file
/usr/share/sss/desk_strings/desk_strings.ar

example:
change
s%"paint"%%
to
s%"paint"%طلاء%

Then you can test this translation in console before you have a langpack:

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fixdesk
rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
... and you shouls see طلاء below your desktop icon for paint.

[edit] found the (my) fault:
change in /usr/sbin/momanager line ~ 1473 from

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[ "$SSSFILES" ] || LANG=$ORIGLANG exec momanager restart # 130604 --empty--
to

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[ "$SSSFILE" ] || LANG=$ORIGLANG exec momanager restart # 130604 --empty--
... and the editor should open that file.
.. and momanager will continue after editor is closed.
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#95 Post by AbdelAziz »

[edit] found the (my) fault:
change in /usr//sbin/momanager line ~ 1473 from
Now it work fine :D
By the way don't you think version number should be somewhere in momanager gui ?

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Re: FFMM20130610

#96 Post by Bert »

L18L wrote:
Bert wrote: I've been staring at this screenshot, wondering how it was done

Image,
because here it looks like this, also in the latest FFMM:

Image

Apologies if I missed the obvious.
I am not sure if I understand your question.
It was done using with mtPaint-snapshot. I do not see any relevant difference in the two images. :?
Thanks for your reply.
Concerning the above: I saw an interesting difference, that made me think you found a way to sort alphabetically, while having the 'mother program' to the left. So 'ADF' is sorted, but 'peasyscan' is shown first. I wondered how you achieved that and why I didn't see the same.

Running FFMM20130611 now: yes the many smilies were nice, but the three dots are indeed much better for contrast.

And yes, even I understand the preferences now :lol: 8)
[url=http://pupsearch.weebly.com/][img]http://pupsearch.weebly.com/uploads/7/4/6/4/7464374/125791.gif[/img][/url]
[url=https://startpage.com/do/search?q=host%3Awww.murga-linux.com%2F][img]http://i.imgur.com/XJ9Tqc7.png[/img][/url]

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Re: FFMM20130610

#97 Post by L18L »

Bert wrote:... Concerning the above: I saw an interesting difference, that made me think you found a way to sort alphabetically, while having the 'mother program' to the left. So 'ADF' is sorted, but 'peasyscan' is shown first. I wondered how you achieved that and why I didn't see the same...
The only differences see :
1- nl vs. de
2- different font sizes so that I see in my "de window" a bit more than you can see in your "nl window".

'peasyscan' is shown first :shock:
No that is an optical illusion :wink:

But the entire data is:
______________…ADF→/usr/local/peasyscan/ADF (de peasyscan.mo peasyscan)
…ADF→/usr/local/peasyscan/ADF (nl peasyscan.mo peasyscan)

=============================
edit
I missed the obvious:
-3 The width of the combo fields are different :!:
But that is something to solve for gtk gurus

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#98 Post by L18L »

AbdelAziz wrote:By the way don't you think version number should be somewhere in momanager gui ?
Good question.
Momanager was, is and will stay Barry's baby.
He does not use versions and thus I did not.

Look into the script

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less /usr/sbin/momanager
to see latest change.

Actually latest change in my script is:
#130612 L18L fix for desk_strings not showing up in editor reported by AbdelAziz
Maybe I will show date of last change in the GUI next pet .

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Re: FFMM20130610

#99 Post by Bert »

L18L wrote: The only differences see :
1- nl vs. de
2- different font sizes so that I see in my "de window" a bit more than you can see in your "nl window".

'peasyscan' is shown first :shock:
No that is an optical illusion :wink:

But the entire data is:
______________…ADF→/usr/local/peasyscan/ADF (de peasyscan.mo peasyscan)
…ADF→/usr/local/peasyscan/ADF (nl peasyscan.mo peasyscan)

=============================
edit
I missed the obvious:
-3 The width of the combo fields are different :!:
But that is something to solve for gtk gurus
Hi L18L,

I discovered it's only a matter of global font size:

I changed it from 96 to 78 and got the same combo field width as in your .de version:

Image

(because of eye problems I prefer the 96 size..)

Solved 8)
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Re: FFMM20130610

#100 Post by L18L »

Bert wrote:(because of eye problems I prefer the 96 size..)
Me too :lol:

Next "version"
designed for small screens

smaller height by 2 lines header and less frames
smaller width by moving some text to tooltips

tooltops added for
- search
- Preferences
- editor
- about ("version") :)

will upload tomorrow
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FFMM20130613

#101 Post by L18L »

yesterday L18L wrote:will upload tomorrow
... and here it is:

New variable in configuration is WINDOW_WIDTH.
momanager starts in smallest possible width of 726 px.
You can increase it up to 1360 pixel.

Have fun

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Search result can not be closed

#102 Post by Bert »

Hi L18L,

I just noticed this: the search result window gets stuck in the upper left corner of the screen, without a means to close it. (or move it)

Closing MoManager has no effect.
The window stays on top of everything else on the screen.
It cannot be killed, as it has no entry in the tray.

I have not yet tried to repeat this. I only used the search function maybe three times so far. This is the first time this happens.

All else is functioning beautifully!
[url=http://pupsearch.weebly.com/][img]http://pupsearch.weebly.com/uploads/7/4/6/4/7464374/125791.gif[/img][/url]
[url=https://startpage.com/do/search?q=host%3Awww.murga-linux.com%2F][img]http://i.imgur.com/XJ9Tqc7.png[/img][/url]

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Re: Search result can not be closed

#103 Post by L18L »

Bert wrote:...I just noticed this: the search result window gets stuck in the upper left corner of the screen, without a means to close it. (or move it)..
Howto close any window in almost any GUI:
:arrow: click the top right X :wink:

or if using jwm:

To close a window in jwm right click at top bar of the window and select (here translated to "Schließen") "close"

To move a window in jwm right click at top bar of the window and select (here translated to Bewegen) "move" :!:
or keep ALT key pressed and move it with mouse left button pressed.
Bert wrote:It cannot be killed, as it has no entry in the tray....
To kill a window in jwm right click at top bar of the window and select (here translated to "Töten") "kill" :!:


Bert,
I am describing this so verbously because I think this could become stuff for "Momanager for dummies" 8)
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#104 Post by Bert »

Thanks for explaining.

However, I did know all that... :roll:

The problem is the search result window is placed so high, the window top bar is not on the screen. So moving and closing impossible.

Yours dummily,

:lol:
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#105 Post by Bert »

Here's a screenie.

Top of it is also top of my screen.

Btw, the Alt + left mouse key pressed does not work here. It works for all other windows, but not for the Momanager search result window.
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#106 Post by L18L »

Bert wrote:Here's a screenie.

Top of it is also top of my screen.

Btw, the Alt + left mouse key pressed does not work here. It works for all other windows, but not for the Momanager search result window.
Thanks for describing this...

...I could reproduce it having changed in urxvtset

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Borderless=On
That is why there is no top bar to right click or X :lol:

I will fix this soon.

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#107 Post by L18L »

L18L wrote:...I will fix this soon.
fixed

Search result window is always opened "Borderless=Off"
(..and switched back if it had been "On")

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#108 Post by Bert »

Hosla IT rocks!

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Thanks!
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#109 Post by don570 »

I have been using the forked momanager and I like it :lol:

I put the following lines in the front section of script and this gives
the version number and a crude help screen if the script is run from
the terminal. It would be worthwhile to insert.

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APPVERSION="130625"
while [ $# != 0 ]; do # check options added to momanager
	I=1
	while [ $I -le `echo $# | wc -c` ]; do 
		case $1 in	
		    -r|--run) shift; shift; break; break;;
   		    -v|--version) echo momanager $APPVERSION; exit;;
			*) echo '
Usage: momanager [Options]

Options 
  -r | --run        Run option
  -h | --help       Display this help message
  -v | --version    Display momanager version'; exit;;
		esac
		shift
		I=$[$I+1]
	done
done


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#110 Post by don570 »

I modified the recent fork of L18L



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