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2PDE - DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT for Puppy Racy 5.3
Posted: Thu 27 Sep 2012, 11:37
by Argolance
Posted: Wed 10 Oct 2012, 16:54
by Argolance
Hello,
2PDE Updated...
Feedbacks would be very appreciated!
Cordialement.
Posted: Mon 22 Oct 2012, 17:31
by PFan
Hello,
thought you might like to know, your 2PDE is running nicely on BK's Precise Puppy 5.3.97-rc2. Still playing with it to get a feel for everything, but it looks nice and is pretty fast.
Posted: Tue 23 Oct 2012, 08:19
by Argolance
Hello,
thought you might like to know, your 2PDE is running nicely on BK's Precise Puppy 5.3.97-rc2. Still playing with it to get a feel for everything, but it looks nice and is pretty fast.
Yes indeed! However, there are surely little things that should probably be corrected/adapted for all to run properly. It is a good news though! On the French forum, a user said that it works fine witn Slacko but, trying on my side, I was trapped at startup in the blue welcome screen...
I have no time enough to make 2PDE working with other Puppies, so I made a choice...
Thank you!
Cordialement.
critical problems that should be attended to
Posted: Tue 20 Nov 2012, 00:27
by scsijon
Argolance, sorry, but your not in my 'like' list at present. I had to do a complete rebuild of a "Full" Installed puppy with quite a few extra user installed packages! A day lost!
I do think that you need to do a few things to your package to sort it out:
- have a splash screen at startup warning that your package alters the way jwm is setup and works (although it should have it's own config files that do not affect the existing jwm), also the splash screen also needs to warn that for those using a 'full' install that it is NOT reversable, as I found out to my regret, and have a backout/abort button that they can abort the installation before it starts at that point;
- separate the dependancies from being within your package, and have a test that the dependancies you use will not downgrade existing versions of those dependancy packages already installed;
- and I would sugest that you separate your package so it 'stands alone' with it's own configuration files, as all the other desktop/windowmanagers are suppose to do within puppy, so that the only start differance is instead of 'xwin jwm' or so it's 'xwin 2pde' for it's initial start and they can change back by reversing the statement again.
However after all that, I do like it's looks and if you can fix these problems it should be a good addition to puppy's set.
Posted: Tue 20 Nov 2012, 11:07
by Argolance
Hello scsijon,
Thank you for your feedback.
Argolance, sorry, but your not in my 'like' list at present. I had to do a complete rebuild of a "Full" Installed puppy with quite a few extra user installed packages! A day lost!
Sorry too!
(May I say that when I began to use Puppy (I don't know why?) I absolutely wanted it to be full installed on my PC. But I encountered many problems: Power failure, bad settings, and so on (most of the applications I tested/tried to install could never be uninstalled properly, causing every time, some irreversible issues here and there). So I began making backups of my entire installation anywhere else on my drive: This was heavy and not convenient at all. One day, I decided to run Puppy, I would say, Puppies, with live-CDs and save files... My 'puppyist' life changed: I understood it is initially conceived to run this way and finally found this was the more flexible and best one).
Now, all the things you suggest are right.
But I have to say this
first release of 2PDE just intended to be installed 'on the fly' on a fresh Puppy racy 5.3 Live-CD session/installation, as recommended in the first post of the French topic about 2PDE. It is why I didn't think of:
- have a splash screen at startup warning that your package alters the way jwm is setup and works (although it should have it's own config files that do not affect the existing jwm), also the splash screen also needs to warn that for those using a 'full' install that it is NOT reversable, as I found out to my regret, and have a backout/abort button that they can abort the installation before it starts at that point;
- separate the dependancies from being within your package, and have a test that the dependancies you use will not downgrade existing versions of those dependancy packages already installed; - separate the dependancies from being within your package, and have a test that the dependancies you use will not downgrade existing versions of those dependancy packages already installed;
Concerning jwm
(this is in the first post too - google translation):
The latest versions of JWM unfortunately causes problems with transparency effects. The version that comes with 2PDE (JWM-508 by Joe VSVN Wingbermuehle - compiled options: confirm fribidi icons png xft xinerama shape XRender xpm) do not support smoothing icons MENU bar or launching applications. It is not localized but is only translated into French. For those who do not wish to use shadow and transparency effects, just rename the current file /usr/bin/jwm and substitute /usr/bin/jwm_ori.
- and I would sugest that you separate your package so it 'stands alone' with it's own configuration files, as all the other desktop/windowmanagers are suppose to do within puppy, so that the only start differance is instead of 'xwin jwm' or so it's 'xwin 2pde' for it's initial start and they can change back by reversing the statement again.
This is the good idea, but I don't know if I am able to do it: knowledge and... time!
However after all that, I do like it's looks and if you can fix these problems it should be a good addition to puppy's set.
Thank you!
I am preparing an iso file, based on Racy 5.4. I thing this is actually the best way not to have the problems you encountered.
Cordialement.
2PDE with Racy
Posted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 01:39
by Pelo
Argolance bonjour.
Your desktop is a good one. Some remarks ;
The saves are Racy, we have Toutou somewhere. it's done on purpose to respect authors ?
Change the mount panel position which is on left up corner, hiding all desk icons.
Tu as fait du grabuge ? il est pas content. Moi, aucun dégât chez moi.
Bonne journée, frenchie.
Rox : opening a window
Posted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 07:35
by Pelo
Cannot open several rox windows at the same time, so we cannot 'glisser-copier' between two windows. I Had to use Xfe to transfer my files between directories.
Sorry my english is poor.
tested sucessfully with Librepup (pfranz) and tahrpup (pelo)
Posted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 08:08
by Pelo
tested sucessfully with Librepup (pfranz), The Puppy that protects the users against enemies.
Tested too with tarpup (pelo)
Posted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 09:05
by Argolance
Bonjour,
Nobody prevents you from using 2PDE with other Puppies than Puppy Racy 5.3 (I have written quite enough on this above). If it works, so much the better! But is at your own risk...
Cordialement.
Hungarian team does it with Tahrpup 6.0.5.
Posted: Thu 11 Aug 2016, 05:14
by Pelo
Hungarian team does it with Tahrpup 6.0.5. Some Problems with dropbox.
2PDE should get Tahrpup nice ! Wait and see, dowloadingsite should be available soon. S-kami usually answers requests quickly.
Posted: Thu 11 Aug 2016, 05:40
by ally
Tahrpup sur son 31
Posted: Sat 20 Aug 2016, 09:37
by Pelo
2PDE
and Tahrpup sur son 31 for a nice wedding.
Everybody will be welcome as guest, jumping to further information by clicking the blue.
Je charge la 2PDEspen k 3.8.18.22
Posted: Wed 05 Oct 2016, 09:03
by Pelo
La 2PDE maygyar Tahrpup did not enjoyed me. I am uploading 2PDEspen k 3.8.18.22 to get better fun. Its a Slacko.
Just taste this magyar version
By aclick here and ISO will appear
Vive les échanges culturels
Translation to English soon, translation to Hungarian will arrive later, never i studied this language,
Grub4Dos will be done With Patriot OS, screenshot below.
