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pemasu


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PostPosted: Wed 15 May 2013, 14:30    Post subject:  

Next update will be using the woof2 with settled version of xorgwizard and the failsafe property included or declined. There is now choice when you woof the build. Also there will be application updates. And more adaptation to new hardcoded xft.dpi 96. Nothing fancy because there should not be much need for them. The Wheezy debian base is quite ok atm. Finetuning mostly.
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PostPosted: Wed 15 May 2013, 15:04    Post subject: OpenboxPlus 1.5  

OpenboxPlus 1.5 with Lxpanel task and dock bars, wider GTK theme collection including GTK engines, and more:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86206

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Satori

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PostPosted: Wed 15 May 2013, 23:29    Post subject: Wheeze testing so far...  

I've been using the updated Dpup Weezy and found some questionable behaviors...

Using a micro-sdhc 32gb adapter connected to a dual port usb 3.0 expressbus adaptor in my laptop, it usually is not picked
up until I connect another flash drive into the second usb port of that adaptor. But a micro-sdhc of 16gb is immediately found.

The same 32gb usb adaptor works in the laptops 2.0 usb ports, tho.

FatDog64 has no problems finding the 32gb usb drive, so is this a kernel difference problem.

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Your GTK-youtube-viewer precise installedl properly and works fine when the video is played in window mode.

When played in full screen mode, however, the video constantly flashes with wide bands of video on screen while playing
the video, as tho every other frame is out of synch.

Google Chrome plays youtube in full screen with no problems.

I'm using NVidia's latest driver, 319.17, on the laptop's NVS M140 (aka 8400GT), so is this a problem with the driver or the kernel.

I'm not using the devx SFS package, but will test with that later.

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When running multiple OpenGL applications and displaying them on screen simulatinously, the X server sometimes
will constantly flash the desktop with a blank screen and then hang. The power button performs a shutdown but the screen
remains blank until a full reboot.

Also when running the OpenGL app, the Network Status window will extend from top to the bottom of the screen, when
normally it's a simple box.

I'm not sure if it's a thermal gpu problem, or the new driver (NVidia 310 had no problems), or kernel 3.5
since kernel 3.6 also didn't have this problem.

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Upgrade of the savefile from 3.5.6 to 3.5.7 when well, tho I do miss the old Desktop Custom Icons restore utility since
I customize the desktop to my own needs.

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I have two identical Dell D830 (ebay cheap!) and both exhibit the above problems.

Thank you for the temptray app, it's really a neccessity for laptops.

Ah well... more testing, but overall it looks promising as a stable distro.

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More Testing...

When resizing the GTK-Youtube-Viewer video window, then the entire desktop also exhibits the flashing video bands.
Restoring the window to it's original size clears up the problem, this was performed while having the devx SFS file loaded.

Resizing a GNOME MPlayer video window when playing a DVD, has no problems.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 16 May 2013, 01:16    Post subject:  

Satori. I believe most of your problems is partly due to kernel.
I have debian mplayer included. Gnome-mplayer is my compile, but it is mostly graphical shell for mplayer.

I suppose that newer kernel would help your problems, at least some of them probably would vanish.

Of course there can incompatibilities with your nvidia proprietary driver also.

Micro-sdhc adapter problem would be mostly due to kernel.
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Eyes-Only


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PostPosted: Tue 21 May 2013, 00:13    Post subject: PPM Problem
Subject description: Not updating...
 

Hi pemasu,

I'm sure that somewhere in these 25 pages worth of posts someone must have reported this by now, I just haven't had the time to read through the entire 25 pages - nor even skim them ( my apologies kind sir! Sad ) - but after installing Dpup Wheezy to my hard drive in a full install I found that I was unable to do a package update of Puppy's Package Manager.

My machine is an old Dell Optiplex with 1.5gigs of RAM, 2.5gigs swap, 2.8gig dual-core pentium processor ( which can clock to 3.2 or 3.4gig I believe the stats said? ), with a 150gig or so hard drive... all on a 50meg wireless net connection.

So when I press the "update" button to update the offered packages in PPM I get the CLI running down through its choices of debian/puppy repos and respectively press the "enter" key... until right at the point where the programme should then parse the downloaded files into a format which the PPM is able to "read" - and that's where the CLI abruptly quits on me without an explanation or software files update, nor did I have any hints as to what may have happened in the xerrs.log under /tmp.

Mystifying indeed!

Unfortunately I'm unable to help any further than this as the partition has since been wiped for the next test distro. But I thought I should at least report this finding. Other than this one fault Dpup Wheezy is excellent. Had this problem not have been such a show-stopper for me I surely would've enjoyed working further with Dpup! Cool Perhaps later when this is corrected?

Good luck and thanks pemasu for everything that you do in the advancement of our favourite distro!

Cheers/Amicalement,

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge d'Acadie"

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Tue 21 May 2013, 00:17    Post subject:  

Eyes-Only. Skip the Debian Wheezy updates repos. There are none. PPM will be stuck in those.
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sszindian


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Location: Pennsylvania U.S.

PostPosted: Tue 28 May 2013, 22:51    Post subject: Printer no work!  

In Wheezy (both 3.3.2.5 and 3.5.2.6) cups 1.5.3 is used.

hplip_print-3.11.10.pet & hplip_scan-3.11.10 worked fine in wheezy-3.3.2.5

The hplip_print does not work in wheezy-3.5.2.6

I also tried all of the hplip's in the PPM and, hpliplite-3.13.2.pet and, hplip_print-3.13.4.pet

Everything tried gives a: "usr/lib/filter/bannertopdf failed" error.

My hp scanner works fine with the hplip_scan-3.11.10
(hp all--in-one- 1050 j410 series)
CORRECTION (30 May): scanner stopped working... cannot get it to reinstall using the hplip-scan-3.11.10!

Setting this project aside until the next release!

>>>---Indian------>

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futwerk

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Jun 2013, 17:05    Post subject:  

new backgrounds.
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charlie6


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2013, 00:44    Post subject: 3.5.2.7 no text menu after 1st boot if Xorg video wizard ON  

Hi,
thanks Pemasu for this update !
here running on PIV intel + 82845G video graphic chip ... Rolling Eyes
this does not happen with 3.5.2.5 version (not tested with 3.5.2.6):

upon 1st boot, if Xorg video wizard's QuickSetups checkbox is checked, the Menu text as also partitions names are somewhat missing when having configured resolution. Restart X a 2nd time fix this.

Does not happen if checkbox not checked nor using Xorgwizard after quicksetup setting.

Is this due to a new xorgwizard version?
charlie
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charlie6


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jun 2013, 23:57    Post subject:  

Hi,
here using wheezy-3.5.2.7 on a Compaq + nvida GeForce2 MX200
got «washed» Menu icons as also quite invisible text inside Geany

Does not happen using wheezy-3.5.2.5 on this machine with same video settings

cheers

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This does not happen if:
copying both xorgwizard and xorgwizard-automatic from wheezy-3.5.2.5, as also deleting xorgwizard-cli
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soundNICK

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jun 2013, 05:48    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Eyes-Only. Skip the Debian Wheezy updates repos. There are none. PPM will be stuck in those.

/major snip-EDIT/
...pemasu - glad you commented on the PPM... I've had lots of problems
with this in DpupWheezy.
EDIT: everything working now... its those cobwebs... currently, I
have no problems to report in dpWheezy !

...returning to sleep at keyboard...

soundNICK

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jun 2013, 06:24    Post subject:  

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nancy reagan

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jun 2013, 08:54    Post subject:  

soundNICK wrote:
pemasu wrote:
Eyes-Only. Skip the Debian Wheezy updates repos. There are none. PPM will be stuck in those.

pemasu - glad you commented on the PPM... I've had lots of problems
with this in DpupWheezy.

The good news here is that I got Synaptic installed and working for the
first time (for me) with a puppylinux distro... the bad news is - many of
the package sets I got via Synaptic /did not make a working pet/

...possibly more useful comments... neither Gimp nor Inkscape have
been installable in my wheez install... the PPM download versions NO...
the Synaptic download versions NO... and... the compiled tar.gz version NO.
Thats a first for me (works great in precise and other from your repos).

...scratching head vigorously... is it at all possible PPM/download links
are pointing to wrong sources ? Just a guess. You did comment on possible
woof problems, and this may be woof related for debian files ?

soundNICK


Complete noob, but what I do know is that Jejy69 made a Slackware thing with Gslapt. On the French forum he dropped also one for Upup but did not develop it further

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79810

Maybe he could be of help ?
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soundNICK

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jun 2013, 02:42    Post subject:  

Puppy Package Manager is evidently broken, I hope someone of developers will finally admit that /snip/

<chuckle so many have said this... there is no "admitting"... nobody
find where problem is yet >

/snip/ Only reasonable solution is Puppy switching to Synaptic or
other native package manager used in the distribution it was built
from /snip/

<no... synaptic doesnt fix this... see my comment... same problem installing
whether PPM / Synaptic / or other >

/snip/ So PPM has to be kicked from Puppy iso, and... /snip/

<no - the problem isnt with PPM either... it works too well for too
long, in too many puppylinux distros >

/snip/ Woof built tool modified to make real working system with synaptic or software center from ubuntu. Wouldn't that be great? /snip/

< so far, we agree "it would be great if this problem went away"... nobody
knows how still Smile >

/snip/ Unlimited access to full Ubuntu's repository /snip/

< already puppylinux does this... with PrecisePup >

/snip/ PPAs etc. with fast dependency resolution and every program
actually works after it's been installed /snip/

< while I would like to see access to PPAs, that is an ubuntu specific
function... either finding a workaround, or just switching to ubuntu is the
best answer to PPAs unfortunately >
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jun 2013, 02:54    Post subject:  

Might possibly have something to do with repository changes made when Wheezy went from Testing to Stable.What was Debian thinking ........releasing a stable version of Wheezy (Debian 7.0).
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