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Dpup Wheezy. Woof-CE built debian wheezy 7.2 packages used

#1 Post by pemasu »

Dpup Wheezy 3.5.2.11 has been uploaded. It has been created by using stable Debian 7.2 Wheezy packages and latest Woof-CE at the time.

Kernel is the still the same 3.5.2. I havent noticed any demanding reasons to update the kernel yet. Kernel is non-PAE.

Latest announcement post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 345#742345

Previous information:
I have updated the Puppy apps since last build.
Rox right clicks have been updated.
Firefox comes with preinstalled Flashblock, Adblock, FireFtp and Simple Mail. You activate them or not at the first launch. They are still as activatable extensions inside Firefox.
Geeqie has been coupled with Mtpaint, Fotoxx and PupSnap for instant Imgur upload. Just right click the pic and choose Edit. You will find those couplings.
Libgtk-3.0 support, gtk-3.0 theme support.
Abiword 2.92 is one libgtk-3.0 dependent app. From the repo you will find more.
If you want bittorrent app, just download wheezy transmission, gtk or qt version, or transmission pet from puppy common repo.

There was quite a lot work because of several woof2 induced changes. Font xft.dpi change to 96 was not the least.

Nothing fancy. Just a little more than basic Puppy based on Debian Wheezy packages.

Flashplayer is not included. It seems that some of the comps need the old 10 version when the others like to have newer one. There is GetFlash in the Menu. Use it for downloading libflashplayer.

Libgl1-mesa-dri is the package for graphics spesific dri drivers. I intended to include them....but woof2 template stripped them to swrast_dri.so only. I might create it as pet and include them if you like to have dri drivers preincluded with 22 Mb extra fat.

There probably are still quirks here and bugs there. Now I would need testing, using, abandoning....hopefully not many..... and bug reports and feedback.

Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupWhee ... eezy35211/

Kernel source sfs: http://smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_sourc ... .2-wheezy/
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#2 Post by stu91 »

Hi Pemasu,
It is still uploading at moment - I look forward to downloading and testing your new Wheezy build :D

Edit:
Mixed initial results - No B43 wifi detected on first boot or subsequent boots after creating save file - I think also Wheezy may have the same xorg problem we encounterd with squeeze, as i am unable to got xorgwizard > ATI - radeon for my [Radeon Xpress 200M] - ATI Radeon® Xpress 1150.
As it was some time back I no longer have any of those old packages and am unable to recall exactly what the problem was - i think it was related to xorg-base package?
Exprimo boots to correct graphics so maybe able to compare each package and see if anything is missing.
cheers.

Edit2:
Forgot to include pmodemdiag
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#3 Post by pemasu »

Stu91. Thanks of the feedback. It is valuable nevertheless. It might be that I should enable KMS at kernel compile level for radeon.
You could move from the /lib/modules/all-firmware/b43/lib/firmware the b43 folder to the /lib/firmware.
I need to check that I have latest rerwins scripts included.

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#4 Post by stu91 »

pemasu wrote:Stu91. Thanks of the feedback. It is valuable nevertheless. It might be that I should enable KMS at kernel compile level for radeon.
You could move from the /lib/modules/all-firmware/b43/lib/firmware the b43 folder to the /lib/firmware.
I need to check that I have latest rerwins scripts included.
Thanks for B43 tip i shall try that next - i have no knowledge of Kernels - is KMS normally enabled in Exprimo ?
cheers.

Edit:
Just looking back though some of the old squeeze threads - it seems the original xorg problem was due to /usr/lib/libdrm_radeon.so being missing just has a quick look in wheezy and i cant see it - i will investigate more later. :D

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#5 Post by pemasu »

Stu91. Use PPM and install libdrm-radeon1 debian package.
I will investigate DISTRO_SPECS why it is out....and I will add it.
KMS ie kernel mode setting for intel and radeon is normally enabled at file level: /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf
and you can enable it also with boot parameter at boot time. But it is not enabled as default at kernel compile configuration. I do not know if I should, but Barry Kauler posted something about it recently, due to request and feedback at some of his threads.
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intel wireless

#6 Post by Marv »

Firstboot, Grub4dos. Fat32 formatted ATAflashcard in Dell D610 laptop:

Boots cleanly, intel 915 graphics card detected correctly, resolution exactly correct, using intel driver. Sound detected and working correctly (intel 82801). Alps touchpad very usable with default setup.

Does not detect intel 2915ABG wireless minipci card (ipw2200 driver).
SNS, and Dougal wizards tried. No additional modules readily available to load. May poke more later or hook up using wired eth0 interface and look further. Any thoughts?

Other than the wireless, a pretty smooth polished first launch on a moderately old laptop (1.6GHz Pentium M, intel 915 graphics, 1Gb mem. At first glance, CPU at idle a touch higher than Saluki 023 but by 1 or 2 percent if at all.

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#7 Post by pemasu »

Marv. Could you post pmodemdiag tarball.

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#8 Post by James C »

Downloaded...... testing a bit later. :)

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Intel wireless

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Marv. Could you post pmodemdiag tarball.
I've attached it. pfix=ram boot, no attempt at wireless made before running pmodemdiag. Forgot to mention Drives on desktop and all of xfce seem to be working well.
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#10 Post by pemasu »

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Aug 25 15:03:15 puppypc19258 user.info kernel: [   28.238541] ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.2kmq
Aug 25 15:03:15 puppypc19258 user.info kernel: [   28.238544] ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
Aug 25 15:03:15 puppypc19258 user.info kernel: [   28.238895] ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection
Aug 25 15:03:15 puppypc19258 user.info kernel: [   28.443683] input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input7
Aug 25 15:03:15 puppypc19258 user.err kernel: [   28.522792] ipw2200: ipw2200-bss.fw request_firmware failed: Reason -2
Aug 25 15:03:15 puppypc19258 user.err kernel: [   28.522798] ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: -2
I suppose that copying /lib/modules/all-firmware/ipw2200_firmware-3.0/lib/firmware folder content ie those firmwares to the /lib/firmware might help.
That would be my first suggestion. For some reason the firmwares are not found from where they are in Puppies. And now I should have that /all-firmware folder structure right. I messed them up in other dpup build...

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#11 Post by peebee »

Hi pemasu

Frugal install on my HP550 laptop

b43 firmware does seem to be in a strange place and cannot be loaded from there - demsg shows ucode13 firmware load errors for my wifi

however moving the firmware to /lib/firmware and rebooting means that b43 then works ok

bootup is slow because there is a count to 10 when usb is loading but proceeds OK as normal to the desktop on this laptop

some inode errors flash up too quickly to be recorded on shutdown

Will you be uploading the kernel sources?

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#12 Post by pemasu »

http://smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_sourc ... .2-wheezy/

It seems that firmwares are not found from their usual location. Interesting.

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#13 Post by charlie6 »

Hi Pemasu,
thanks for this wheezy which boots straight on using the nouveau driver on my Compaq Evo 50 + Nvidia GeForce2 MX200.
Video refresh seems rather slow as popup menu icons (jwm.menu) need perceptible delay (ca 0.3 se) to display when moving the mouse cursor up and down across the menu
Seems working nice !
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Broadcom WL driver

#14 Post by peebee »

Hi pemasu

There seems to be a problem with the Broadcom WL driver on this pup.

I blacklisted b43 and rebooted - the wl driver was not loaded as expected.

I issued the modprobe wl command and no errors were reported - lsmod reported that the driver was loaded but no wlan0 was created and dmesg did not have the usual driver loaded message - nor any error messages either.

I found the attached patch for kernels >=3.4 and applied it to my broadcom source and recompiled the driver - it compiled fine with no errors but it doesn't work either.....

I've attached the pmodemdiag in case others cleverer than me can see any clues.

This pmodemdiag is with b43 blacklisted, my recompiled wl.ko installed and modprobe wl command issued.

As usual you are leading the way at the cutting-edge of development - so this is the 1st k3.5 tried....

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Dpup Wheezy on the old trusty Athlon XP box....... booted straight to the correct 1440x900 resolution with working sound and internet. However, was necessary to go into "about:config" and disable IPv6 before Firefox would access the internet.Not a big deal though...... just a first for a Puppy release.A pretty common occurrence on some of the "bigger" distros though.

# report-video
Dpup Wheezy, version 3.5.2 on Sun 26 Aug 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (162MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 26 Aug 2012 09:05:35 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.5.2-dpup (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Mon Aug 20 20:32:41 AST 2012
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.13 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

EDIT:
Just for testing purposes, exited to prompt and ran xorgwizard....... X would not restart regardless of using "probe" or choosing a particular driver.
Deleted savefile and restarted fresh.
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#16 Post by peebee »

Hi pemasu

Another indication that something is not quite right in the networking world:

NetworkWizard does not show any modules to load if you choose the "Load Module" button...

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#17 Post by Ray MK »

This is amazing - don't think anything that I've used before on this machine has been faster.

Ram and CPU use / activity is minimal - temp low too.

This is all on my 10yr old Acer laptop. Even running Firefox seems ok. Usually it is almost un-usable.

So far - for me at least - this si a fantastic Puppy.
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#18 Post by pemasu »

Thank you of the feedback so far. There seems to be promising reports, missing stuff found, like libdrm-radeon1 and the network-wireless section needs work.

I wish I would know what is the crucial problem. Firmwares are not found from their normal location, wl module does not work and so on. I used udev from wheezy to get network driver modules autoloaded, but I dont know is it behind this misbehavior. It can be anything at this point. Insufficient data so far.
I can confirm from pmodemdiag reports ( thank you of posting them ) that the driver tries to load but it cant find the firmware from the normal location. Wl module loads but it does nothing.

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#19 Post by Brown Mouse »

Hi Pemasu

No luck booting this as yet although its a good download.
I see some real strange behaviour booting with grub(files extracted from the .iso to a test directory,my preferred method) and some red text lines before a message that says 'pausing for 60 seconds'.Then it cant find the sfs?

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So far, so good..... :)
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