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Bootable pendrive or SD card *without* using a CD
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Steve White

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 10:04    Post_subject:  Bootable pendrive or SD card *without* using a CD  

Hi,

Most laptops/netbooks these days no longer have CD players.
Sure you can get an external one, but I don't carry it around.

It would be helpful to be able in many cases to download Puppy, and create a
bootable pen drive or SD card, without resorting to a CD.

The ISO file can be mounted... so there are all the files.
All that's required is to format the target device and install the
bootloader, and finally to copy the Puppy files over.

Can somebody sort out the details of installing the bootloader for me?
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darkcity


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 10:27    Post_subject:  

Hi

the files you need are-

initrd.gz
vmlinuz
puppy_slacko_5.3.1.sfs (or other puppy base sfs)

and possibly-
ldlinux.sys
syslinux.cfg
USBFLASH

and ensure USB partition has its Boot flag set

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However, an easier method is to use-

PuppyMenu > Setup > Puppy Universal Installer

it can use ISO or current installation as source.

Twisted Evil

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nilsonmorales


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 11:01    Post_subject:  

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77347
maybe this help
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darkcity


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 13:31    Post_subject:  

nilsonmorales wrote:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77347
maybe this help


nice thread, added here
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BootFlash

borrow one of your screenshot, hope that's okay?

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starhawk

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 13:53    Post_subject:  

Unetbootin?
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 15:13    Post_subject:  

Icyos2 Youtube video:
How To Do A USB Install Of Puppy Linux Slacko 5.3.2.4 FAST!
I assume the method would apply to any Puppy.
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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 16:44    Post_subject: Re: Bootable pendrive or SD card *without* using a CD  

Steve White wrote:
It would be helpful to be able in many cases to download Puppy, and create a
bootable pen drive or SD card, without resorting to a CD.


Just to confirm, I have done this quickly and easily using Puppy Universal Installer on my netbook.

Puppy is installed to an 8 Gig SD card. BIOS is set to boot from that as default.

Smelly old windows sits unused on the internal HDD but I can boot into it by using the BIOS if I want to, otherwise Puppy can mount it and use it as storage.

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ggg

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 16:52    Post_subject:  

Sylvander,

If five (or however many) Pups work on your new computer - just try to answer your own assumption by trying a Pup that didn't work on your hard drive.
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Dave_G


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 16:54    Post_subject:  

As regards the Icyos2 Youtube video, there is something that does not
make sense to me.
I was under the impression that isolinux was for booting from a CD, whilst
syslinux was for other media such as USB flash drives.

In the video, after the whole process, I still don't see syslinux on the now
bootable USB flash disk, only the original isolinux.bin and .cfg.

Am I missing something?

(Screen shots provided below to illustrate what I mean)

Before:




AFTER:

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 18:19    Post_subject:  

ggg wrote:
Sylvander,

If five (or however many) Pups work on your new computer - just try to answer your own assumption by trying a Pup that didn't work on your hard drive.

Nice idea! Very Happy
PROBLEM:
When I try to mount the ISO [it resides on an NTFS partition on a PATA HDD in a USB connected external enclosure]...
The attempt to mount fails in both ROX and Xfe. Sad
I've encountered this problem when attempting other stuff that needs me to mount an ISO.
All attempts so far [to mount this ISO or that] have failed.
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ggg

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 20:11    Post_subject:  

Sylvander,

If you only need to mount so that you can copy and paste, then perhaps you could extract all the files using ISOMaster (possibly with out-of-the-box innovation if necessary).
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 20:19    Post_subject: Re: Bootable pendrive or SD card *without* using a CD  

OscarTalks wrote:

Smelly old windows sits unused on the internal HDD but I can boot into it by using the BIOS if I want to, otherwise Puppy can mount it and use it as storage.


Of course could use one of the smelly windows applications that make a bootable USB drive from a linux iso.

Thom
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug 2012, 05:21    Post_subject:  

ggg wrote:
perhaps you could extract all the files using ISOMaster

(a) Managed to mount the ISO file in FatDog64-600-Firefox. [How come it works here, but not in other Puppies?]
(b) Then discovered I already had the Lupu-528.005 files on an 8GB Flash Drive.
So...
(c) Using the icyos2 video as a guide...
I ran grub4dosconfig using a terminal command...
And used it to install grub4dos onto the Flash Drive FAT32 partition [I set the boot flag].
(d) Will now try to boot the Flash Drive.
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(e) It failed to boot using the Flash Drive alone. Sad
Booted if I used the "live" optical disk, which only successfully loads the Puppy if it can find the SFS file [plus others] on the USB connected Flash Drive.
GRU4DOS wasn't needed; not used.
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darkcity


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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug 2012, 06:07    Post_subject:  

what files are on the flash drive?

is puppy fully installed to the CD?

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nooby

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug 2012, 06:22    Post_subject:  

Did not rcrsn51 have a thread where he described how to
copy over the needed files and then boot an USB without
having a need for a CD at all? I have no link but search?

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