Slacko 5.4 - FINAL 2 Dec 2012

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Slacko - beta [5.4]

#211 Post by Billtoo »

I installed kdegames with ppm, it was missing one lib which I found and added but there are no menu entries.I ran fixmenus and restarted x but still no menu entries.
Also tried compiling and get an error:

# ./configure --prefix=/usr
./configure: line 727: strings: command not found
./configure: line 729: strings: command not found
endian test failed
#

I'm starting the kde games using gexec or clicking on the app in usr/bin
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#212 Post by James C »

I just replaced /usr/sbin/fixmenus with the file from 533 and it's working here now too. File from 533 was larger for whatever it's worth.

533 file on the left ....older than the file directly off the beta iso..... but it's working now. :)
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#213 Post by Volhout »

01micko wrote:
rcrsn51 wrote:What is it with Opera and printing? I bring up my newspaper, ask to print one page and get 12.

I do it in Firefox and get exactly the page I asked for.
Bummer!

I am going to try and get this fixed. Using opera allows flashplayer and the iso is still 2 meg smaller than the previous beta.

I had to do some gymnastics to get .pet mimetypes to work ootb in opera too. Last I looked Puppy was a top 10 distro, but Opera only supports deb, rpm and tgz/txz.

I will contact the Opera devs and see how far I can get.
I would be very thankfull if this gets resolved. I have reported double printing errors with Opera many times, and no fix was ever offered. I like Opera (although many of it's nice features are now offered also in other browsers .. long live the browser war !!), but cannot use it on systems that need to use the printer.

Thanks for trying to solve this ....

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#214 Post by 01micko »

@Billtoo

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(cd /usr/bin; ln -sf strings-GNU strings)
@James C.. bad idea. It will break the menus as they are meant to be. I really don't know why it failed. Worked first go here.

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[Desktop Entry]
Exec=firefox
Icon=firefox.png
Type=Application
Categories=WebBrowser;
Name=Firefox
..dont need the "jwm -reload"

Tested on a couple of slow machines, still working :? . Maybe try on a new install.
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#215 Post by 01micko »

Billtoo.. funny, I d'loaded kde games and PPM says that the dep (libdbusmenus-qt) is installed, I couldn't find it though, another PPM bug.

Meanwhile, I patched jwm-menu_create to recognise the kde4 desktop dir.
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#216 Post by rcrsn51 »

01micko wrote:Bummer!.
You can demonstrate this yourself by printing pages from this forum. Select the CUPS-PDF device and one page. Then check the PDF file you get.

But when you check Opera's Print Preview, the document is paginated correctly.

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#217 Post by bark_bark_bark »

I wish I could test it, but my dad (which is letting me use his pc) only wants 1 puplet on it. Any my PC is always hogged up by my girlfriend.
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#218 Post by 01micko »

rcrsn51 wrote:
01micko wrote:Bummer!.
You can demonstrate this yourself by printing pages from this forum. Select the CUPS-PDF device and one page. Then check the PDF file you get.

But when you check Opera's Print Preview, the document is paginated correctly.
QtWeb gets it right, but I'm a bit reluctant to try it out, I don't think it's ready for prime time. Throws a whole bunch of errors because of puppy's cut down gtk-themes. However it seems to render ok, plays flash fine, likely has no other plugins though.

I'm just sick of mozilla whacking in code here and there and for no apparent (to me anyways.. oh they did fix an introduced css bug.. 2M???) reason. Seamonkey jumped 2M in size from 2.11 to 2.12. Usually I can compile it and get it 1M smaller than official (at least). Last time it was actually bigger :/ . BK has the same issue.

(removed opera rant)
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#219 Post by bigpup »

rcrsn51,

Here is the opposite problem from yours with Opera.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/to ... id=1440612

Some suggestions made here to correct problem and possible causes.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/to ... id=1207692

Here is something to try:
The solution for me was DON'T use the print Icons anywhere on the screen, tool bar or drop down menu from file at the top left. What does work is right click the mouse on the main screen of what you're printing, then a drop down menu shows up and then you select print.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#220 Post by rcrsn51 »

The work-around is to print to CUPS-PDF, then print from ePDFView. It paginates correctly.

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#221 Post by rcrsn51 »

bigpup wrote:Here is something to try:
The solution for me was DON'T use the print Icons anywhere on the screen, tool bar or drop down menu from file at the top left. What does work is right click the mouse on the main screen of what you're printing, then a drop down menu shows up and then you select print.
Did you try this yourself?

1. Go to the first page of this thread.
2. Select Print any way you want.
3. Select the CUPS-PDF device.
4. Select any subset of pages.
5. Watch while Opera churns out 15 pages.

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#222 Post by bigpup »

rcrsn51 wrote:
bigpup wrote:Here is something to try:
The solution for me was DON'T use the print Icons anywhere on the screen, tool bar or drop down menu from file at the top left. What does work is right click the mouse on the main screen of what you're printing, then a drop down menu shows up and then you select print.
Did you try this yourself?

1. Go to the first page of this thread.
2. Select Print any way you want.
3. Select the CUPS-PDF device.
4. Select any subset of pages.
5. Watch while Opera churns out 15 pages.
Sorry :oops:
I do not use Opera. I was just pointing out printing seems to be a general problem with Opera and one possible solution that was said to work.
Hope you stopped printing before churning out 15 pages.
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#223 Post by 01micko »

Ok.. here is what to consider.

Is this a showstoppper bug? (opera printing). Is opera a better option than seamonkey? (It has mail, a decent wysiswyg editor).. with I ship Flash, w/o I dont. Seamonkey is failing on older arches (i586). Is opera? (don't know yet). Do we forget both and ship firefox, sylpheed and no wysiwyg editor? (that will be no flash too). The seamonkey-solibs package is absolutely needed if there is no seamonkey shipped. It's about 4M xz compressed. So there is really no gain at all with shipping firefox except in the 'popularity' stakes. (ssl and ssh are compiled against nspr and nss).

Size is still certainly a consideration, even though this has bloated out to 150M with xz compression (that would be about 175 gz). It is a requirement to ship with mesa with these new kernels, and I think slackware is compiling all xorg drivers with the dependency. Min requirements for slacko have been 1 GHz proc, and 512M (recommended) RAM, though you can get away with less.

Just my random thoughts before I hit the sack.
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#224 Post by rcrsn51 »

01micko wrote:Is this a showstoppper bug? (opera printing)
Printing through CUPS-PDF > ePDFView > printer seems to work reliably, provided that you remember to do it. So I don't think that it classifies as a show-stopper.

But I'm a Firefox guy, so I'm not really qualified to comment.

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#225 Post by Billtoo »

01micko wrote:Billtoo.. funny, I d'loaded kde games and PPM says that the dep (libdbusmenus-qt) is installed, I couldn't find it though, another PPM bug.

Meanwhile, I patched jwm-menu_create to recognise the kde4 desktop dir.
I saw that too, it showed libdbusmenus-qt with a check mark as installed but when I tried to run kshisen from the terminal it wouldn't run and said libdbusmenus-qt was missing.I found it elsewhere in ppm, official slacko repository I think, and installed it from there to get it working.

I applied your new pet and now the games show up in the menu but they still don't run from it, I'm using gexec to start my favorite kdegames.

The compiling is working okay now, thanks.

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#226 Post by bigpup »

This help?
Printing in Opera for Linux
http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/481/
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#227 Post by James C »

01micko wrote: @James C..
Tested on a couple of slow machines, still working :? . Maybe try on a new install.
Deleted save file and started over.......appears to be working now. Testing is fun....... :)

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#228 Post by James C »

Testing is even more fun after some sleep....... :lol:
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#229 Post by Billtoo »

01micko wrote:Ok.. here is what to consider.

Is this a showstoppper bug? (opera printing). Is opera a better option than seamonkey? (It has mail, a decent wysiswyg editor).. with I ship Flash, w/o I dont. Seamonkey is failing on older arches (i586). Is opera? (don't know yet). Do we forget both and ship firefox, sylpheed and no wysiwyg editor? (that will be no flash too). The seamonkey-solibs package is absolutely needed if there is no seamonkey shipped. It's about 4M xz compressed. So there is really no gain at all with shipping firefox except in the 'popularity' stakes. (ssl and ssh are compiled against nspr and nss).

Size is still certainly a consideration, even though this has bloated out to 150M with xz compression (that would be about 175 gz). It is a requirement to ship with mesa with these new kernels, and I think slackware is compiling all xorg drivers with the dependency. Min requirements for slacko have been 1 GHz proc, and 512M (recommended) RAM, though you can get away with less.

Just my random thoughts before I hit the sack.
It's easy to download,unpack in /mnt/home,drag binary and icon to
desktop, the newest Seamonkey and Firefox (unless you're on dialup of
course), it's a browser bonanza.
Works fine for browsing at least, I don't use a printer so I don't
know about that.
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#230 Post by peebee »

I've uploaded the delta file to allow the Broadcom wl wifi driver to be installed on Slacko 5.3.6.0 k3.2.30-4g to:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 5&start=20

[edit] also added the delta for k3.5.5-PAE [/edit]

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