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zigbert


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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jul 2012, 13:54    Post subject:  pClock language support  
_______pClock language support__________________________________


English - Native
German - Lutz-Ulrich Ringel (L18L) (0.6)
Russian - Sergey Rodin (rodin.s) (0.6)


Download
username: puppy
password: linux
pclock_NLS.pet


You can translate using
momanager
available here:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02751

pClock main page
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L18L

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 08:28    Post subject: pClock language support
Subject description: on the way to use gettext		  
Without label of stock items gtk20 is translating, see picture
export pClock='
<window title="pClock">
<vbox>
<menubar>
<menu>
<menuitem stock="gtk-preferences">
<action>preferences</action>
</menuitem>
<menuitem label="'$(gettext "Set system time")'">
<action>system_time &</action>
</menuitem>
<menuitem label="'$(gettext "Set system time zone")'">
<action>countrywizard &</action>
</menuitem>
<menuitemseparator></menuitemseparator>
<menuitem stock="gtk-quit" >
<action>exit:EXIT</action>
</menuitem>
<label>'$(gettext "File")'</label>
</menu>
.
.
. <cut>
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 09:04    Post subject:  
Yes 'Quit' could be grabbed from gtk (as the Ok/Cancel buttons). Preferences would need to be translated anyway.


Regarding gettext, I have not seen enough advantages to bother...


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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 09:42    Post subject:  
zigbert wrote:
...Regarding gettext, I have not seen enough advantages to bother...

Don´t bother, I have just finished it.
Just a little testing...

Some advantages:

Maintaining should be easier
Translating using momanager is standard tool
You can run the program in different languages
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 10:07    Post subject: pClock language support
Subject description: pClock gettexted		  
You can translate using
momanager
available here:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02751
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 14:33    Post subject:  
L18L
I have no interest in translating - I am a gui-maker Smile

Please give me a .mo file (or is it .po - I know nothing about gettext) to include in the pclock_NLS.pet.


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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 15:16    Post subject:  
Zigbert,
in another thread you wrote:
...I have just put all this NLS on hold until things get settled in Puppy. Now when Barry has started the work on NLS, all I see is many different standards. I hoped that Puppy should use one (or a few) to standardize the handling of language files....


Here is german translation of pclock-03-1
packed by Barry`s momanager (the standard you have been hoping for)

All you have to do is take the gettexted version of pclock

Thank you

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it contains:
/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/pclock.mo
MoManager-de_DE-pclock-0.3-1.tar.gz
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gz

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 15:18    Post subject:  
What does this mean
Code:

export TEXTDOMAIN=pclock

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 15:26    Post subject:  
zigbert wrote:
What does this mean
Code:

export TEXTDOMAIN=pclock

1: This means that the name of the translation file is pclock.mo
It is at /usr/share/locale/<LANGUAGE_CODE>/

2: momanager is searching in some directories for
export TEXTDOMAIN=
and handles everything, creation of pclock.pot and pclock.po....

TEXTDOMAIN must be the name of the executable script.

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# gettext --help wrote:
Usage: gettext [OPTION] [[TEXTDOMAIN] MSGID]
or: gettext [OPTION] -s [MSGID]...

Display native language translation of a textual message.

-d, --domain=TEXTDOMAIN retrieve translated messages from TEXTDOMAIN
-e enable expansion of some escape sequences
-E (ignored for compatibility)
-h, --help display this help and exit
-n suppress trailing newline
-V, --version display version information and exit
[TEXTDOMAIN] MSGID retrieve translated message corresponding
to MSGID from TEXTDOMAIN

If the TEXTDOMAIN parameter is not given, the domain is determined from the
environment variable TEXTDOMAIN. If the message catalog is not found in the
regular directory, another location can be specified with the environment
variable TEXTDOMAINDIR.
When used with the -s option the program behaves like the `echo' command.
But it does not simply copy its arguments to stdout. Instead those messages
found in the selected catalog are translated.
Standard search directory: /usr/share/locale

Report bugs to <bug-gnu-gettext@gnu.org>.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 16:26    Post subject:  
L18L
Thank you for the explanation.


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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 16:41    Post subject:  
Ok, I tested the german pclock.mo file, but couldn't get any german translation. I placed the .mo file in /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/pclock.mo, and executed in a terminal:

Code:
#export LANG=de_DE; pclock

(process:11910): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
   Using the fallback 'C' locale.


So, how does this actually works Embarassed
Pclock runs fine - but in english
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 05:13    Post subject: pclock
Subject description: running with another language		  
I have reproduced it and hope to make it clear for everyone.

My locales are:
# locale -a
C
de_DE.utf8
en_US
en_US.utf8
POSIX
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Code:
LANG=de_DE pclock

see picture, same as with you: I do not have a locale de_DE
so fallback to C

but
Code:
LANGUAGE=de_DE pclock

or simply
Code:
LANGUAGE=de pclock

succeeds.

LANGUAGE is a system variable, you can define a list of languages that you understand, ex: no:de:fr for norwegian german french if you like it so.
http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/The-LANGUAGE-variable.html

Of course you will not get gtk stock item texts because you don´t have german gtk20.mo

So try
Code:
LANGUAGE=de pclock
please.


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In 1st post a link back to pclock-0.4 could be useful for people who like to translate and not know pclock Wink
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 13:03    Post subject:  
L18L
Thank you for spreading your knowledge. It works as expected now.

Link to pClock is added in main post.


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 16:52    Post subject: Russian translation  
Russian translation made in momanager after installing pClock pet (distro: Racy-5.3).
MoManager-ru_UA-pclock-0.4.tar.gz
Description  Russian translation
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 17:18    Post subject:  
Russian added


Thank you
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