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Posted: Tue 23 Jul 2013, 02:24
by bark_bark_bark
Yes, I would like you to explain it to me.

Posted: Tue 23 Jul 2013, 20:27
by Jejy69
First tuto to create a Slackware / Salix / Lxpup package.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 020#715020

I am sorry if it is not clear, I am not used to explaining things in detail.
Don't hesitate to post yours questions

Posted: Wed 24 Jul 2013, 10:41
by pchan
Hi Jejy69,

here are some screen shots about windows tiling side by side.

Lately, I found it very useful because When i am watching a movie halfway and i suddenly want to check up something with web browser, I can still keep an eye on the movie. The web browser window will not cover up the vlc window.

Windows 7 has this feature. Windows xp doesn't have this feature. But for windows xp, someone created a program called winsplit revolution to make it possible for windows to tile.

if there is a program to make it possible for windows to tile under lxde windows manager, i will be very happy.

As far as i know, xfce and the e17 windows environment has the tiling feature.

Simplicity Linux based on LXPup

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 18:40
by peebee

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 19:14
by Jejy69
And after all that, no publication from distrowatch for Lxpup. it no longer useless, my progress on Gslapt, Lxde etc ... I am disgusted. Good for simplicity Linux. I'm on the verge of stopping it. Many disappointment.

Lxpup is dead, long life to Simplicity!
We have also put more focus on Gslapt as the package manager.
I'll cry.

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 19:47
by Jejy69
What also saddens me, it is that the name of Peebee is not even mentioned...

Hello Pchan,
I know you can use Xfwm4 inside Lxde, I search which file need to be edited.

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 20:33
by Eyes-Only
Not sure if you are aware of it or not Jejy? But the way Distrowatch works is that YOU have to write about your distro to THEM, comprends-tu mon chum? ;) This is how Simplicity got all the "media coverage" there at Distrowatch. They wrote up what they wanted to appear at the Linux news media website and then submitted it to the owner, Ladislav Bodnar, or Jesse Smith, and then they personally reviewed the websites, materials, .iso files, etc., after which they will make any amendments to what you have written and then add the news about you.

So take good heart mon cher chum, d'accord? :)

A la prochaine fois!

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge d'Acadie"

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 20:51
by Jejy69
Hello Eyes-Only,

I badly expressed myself. I does not question Distrowatch, but simply what is written on the site of Simplicity:
We have also put more focus on Gslapt as the package manager rather than Puppy Package Manager because we feel Apt based package managers are far better when it comes to dependencies.
We hope that you enjoy using it as much as we have enjoyed developing it.
http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/ima ... 1374733215

They did not even change the theme !

Distrowatch imports me little. I am not there for " Glory and fortune ". It is the comments of Simplicity who disturbs me.
It is obvious that I would never have a media coverage. But one more time I am not for that there.

Have a nice day.

That's what happens when you make great distroes

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 21:39
by nancy reagan
Jejy,

Let it be of -some- comfort to you that all this is because your work is TOP QUALITY.

You can post messages on their site. You could ask to share their paypal revenues with you ...

Demain est un autre jour, j'espere avec meilleures nouvelles :roll: ?

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 22:45
by Jasper
Hi Jejy et al,

Those who visit simplicitylinux.org may find it mildly amusing to read about the unrivalled experience of the three "developers".

My understanding is it should be renamed Duplicity Linux.

@ Jejy - I believe you are already famous - both for your work and your charm.

My regards

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 23:47
by Geoffrey
Jejy69 wrote:
We hope that you enjoy using it as much as we have enjoyed developing it.
They did not even change the theme !
Yeah was much the same when it was based on Carolina, never mind, we know who did all the hard work and that's all that matters.
Look at it as a compliment that your work was worth reproducing :wink: :D

Posted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 21:44
by natgab
Jejy69 wrote:And after all that, no publication from distrowatch for Lxpup. it no longer useless, my progress on Gslapt, Lxde etc ... I am disgusted. Good for simplicity Linux. I'm on the verge of stopping it. Many disappointment.

Lxpup is dead, long life to Simplicity!
We have also put more focus on Gslapt as the package manager.
I'll cry.
--Jerome, I hope you will go and add Lxpup to Distrowatch. Let people know about the work you have done. All they will need to do is come here and see how long you have been working on this since your older versions.

Since you finished Lx pup 14, we understand if you take a break. But I hope you will consider still working on this project.

Posted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 23:05
by vicmz
natgab wrote:--Jerome, I hope you will go and add Lxpup to Distrowatch. Let people know about the work you have done. All they will need to do is come here and see how long you have been working on this since your older versions.

Since you finished Lx pup 14, we understand if you take a break. But I hope you will consider still working on this project.
I definitely agree. I wouldn't have written it better. Cheers.

Posted: Sun 28 Jul 2013, 02:41
by natgab
I installed new version, and having trouble installing VLC & Pidgin I keep getting this trying to install with gslapt:

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Failed to download sdl: Missing MD5 checksum, override with -no-md5
Anybody know what else i need to enter into the terminal?

RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI not functioning

Posted: Tue 30 Jul 2013, 16:13
by mikeslr
Hi Jejy69,

As you've brought a fresh breath of customization to Puppy, I always look forward to trying out your latest creation. Unfortunately, for the first time an Lxpup --whether based on precise or slackware-- has not enabled my system to connect to the internet. My adapter is a RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI. Two of the three internet access applications did not recognize my adapter. The third, I think frisbee, reported that it saw my network but failed to connect, Sorry that I can't be more specific. Currently, Grub4dos's Menu.lst does not include Lxpup 14 final among its choices. I meant to report the problem right away but got distracted. And since then several new Pups came to my attention.

Any idea why this Slackware-based Pup is unable to do what it predecessors could?

mikesLr

Marketing LXPUP for the authors of LXPUP

Posted: Wed 31 Jul 2013, 03:15
by gcmartin
My comment Needs to be re-written.

The theme is that if there is a feeling of a moral injustice. Then is there some "will" to do the kind of things which can bring light to the contributions of developers whose work has been re-purposed without requesting approval for reuse?

The community can "collaborate" a solution helpful to all concerned.

Posted: Thu 01 Aug 2013, 20:36
by Jejy69
Hello,

I wished to inform you about my intention to have a break, and to excuse me for my exaggerated reaction. A "light" trend to the impulsiveness. I do not wish to spit at the work of others.
Especially that the merit returns especially to B.Kauler and his team, 01micko for Slacko, I did not want to appropriate their work.

Nevertheless, I persist in the stop of lxpup. I do not manage to assure a suitable presence in case of bug ( And a lot of difficulty solving them also ), and I am not so present more than before.

I am going to reflect about it.

Here is... Next stage, I am going to take the wave! The Atlantic Ocean, here I am! 8)

Thanks all,

PS :

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Failed to download sdl: Missing MD5 checksum, override with -no-md5
If you get this error, install with slapt-get in a terminal like this :

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slapt-get -no-md5 --install sdl
Have a nice holiday !

Posted: Sun 04 Aug 2013, 00:32
by natgab
Jejy69 wrote:Hello,

I wished to inform you about my intention to have a break, and to excuse me for my exaggerated reaction. A "light" trend to the impulsiveness. I do not wish to spit at the work of others.
Especially that the merit returns especially to B.Kauler and his team, 01micko for Slacko, I did not want to appropriate their work.

Nevertheless, I persist in the stop of lxpup. I do not manage to assure a suitable presence in case of bug ( And a lot of difficulty solving them also ), and I am not so present more than before.

I am going to reflect about it.

Here is... Next stage, I am going to take the wave! The Atlantic Ocean, here I am! 8)

Thanks all,

PS :

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Failed to download sdl: Missing MD5 checksum, override with -no-md5
If you get this error, install with slapt-get in a terminal like this :

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slapt-get -no-md5 --install sdl
Have a nice holiday !
---I will try on a spare USB. I went back to 13.04 beta 6 for the moment and that works great. I will see if I can get Lx 14 version working.

P.S. Did you see the trailer for the Lego Movie? :D

Posted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 13:16
by Dean
Nvm

passing by ....

Posted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 09:02
by Volhout
@Jejy69,

Wishing you all the hapiness in the world, and we will cherish your offspring Lxpup. Seeing you leave makes me sad, but that is how it goes..... in puppy-land. A wasteland (wasting of talent - land)....

I really wished Barry would stop playing with his individual releases and would start giving direction. Gather talented people and give puppy some structure. Puppy is gliding downhill in a fast pace, and in 3 years there won't be any puppy anymore. Users don't care if kernel 2.6.33 or kernel 3.10.1 is in their OS. They want a nice, fast (it is puppy!) and easy way to browse internet, see movies, listen to music, skype and mail.

01Micko is trying (on his own, respect man...!) to push puppy forward in a Slacko series, parallelled and completely independent by Barry's own Precise and Raring and Wary and .... versions, while Pesamu's Upups keep up (also on his own, only driven by his idea of what pupp should look like). But what is PUPPY ..??? If I look at distrowatch, and see puppy linux, am I looking at Slacko...or Precise... or ....? Is the new version 5.71 or 5.6beta2 ?

And then there are brilliant developers (Jemimah, Jejy69... etc) that have the capabilities to lift puppy to a higher level, but they can't do it on their own. They struggle for half a year, are drive over the edge (because it is more work than they can handle) and break down, or simply leave.
And (look in the eye candy thread) there are cosmetic artists that can change puppy into something really beautiful. No appeal is done to them to use their energy for the new release.

Why is there no-one that sees a future in puppy. Why do we waste so much energy in "non products". Put all noses in one direction, and you would be able to create something great.

Similar on the forum... The forum is mirroring the same lack of decisiveness.
There are "puppy projects", and "puppy derivatives". No one knows what puppy is where for what reason. And Barry Kaulers puppies only show up in the section "bug reports". Why ? Are they not projects ?

I can imagine that there are differences in opinion between developers, leading to a multitude of derivatives, but a strong "main stream" puppy would attract new users. And if mainstream is Slacko ... so be it, but let's make that clear. If mainstream is Ubuntu Raring, OK, but set a roadmap to get somewhere. Make a plan, share it, so (new) users know what puppy is, and will be.

I guess I should not post this here, since Jejy69 can't help it, and neither can most of the forum readers, but I sometimes get sad seeing energy and talent wasted(*), and wonder if it could have been prevented. I think Barry is the (historical) one to take the lead, and the only one with sufficient buy in from the developers still here to be acceptable.

Volhout

(*)= yes wasted... because Lxpup14 is not finished (same as puppeee, same as saluki, etc..). So if it works for you, great, but if not.... no one to help you now.... the only pup that had long term support (appart from 2.14X) was 528. And that is why in my opinion 528 is the last mainstream puppy.