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Jejy69


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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 05:55    Post subject:  

@mikeslrm thanks for your tips, now, we wait yerc's response. Smile

@Peebee, it seems refresh doesn't work...
I will test another version.

@smil99, Thank you for your back, I'm reassured, I was a little afraid for cinnamon. It's a 'sensible' package.

There are 2 issues for now:
-Right click on desktop, 'Change background' doesn't work.
Must go in cinnamon control center.

-Menu PowerOff's cinnamon, I can't remove it.
Accordingly, 2 applis in the menu to poweroff the PC ( Pupshutdown and Gnome-Session which doesn't work. )
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 05:58    Post subject:  

LXpet 1.2 released :
-Update Google Earth 6.2.2
-Fix google earth launcher
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peebee


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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 08:27    Post subject:  

Jejy69 wrote:
There are 2 issues for now:
-Right click on desktop, 'Change background' doesn't work.
Must go in cinnamon control center.

Hi Jejy69

A bit similar situation exists in the Mate 1.4.1 pet - the only way to change backgrounds and appearance is to go into Applications - Utilities - Change appearance (from memory)

The menu items in Desktop that you would think should change appearance don't do so.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 08:38    Post subject:  

Hi Peebee,

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=659801#659801
Same Problem in Slacko.
And I don't know how to fix it...
All control centers don't work, XFCE, MATE, Gnome2, Gnome 3, they are all empty...
I found nothing about it on Google...
I thought XDG= variables were not set correctly, but they are ok.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 13:52    Post subject:  

Jejy69 wrote:
@Peebee, it seems refresh doesn't work...
I will test another version.

Hi Jejy69

I reloaded: pup-volume-monitor-0.1.9-0-i686-slacko.pet

onto Precise Lxpup with Mate 1.4.1

and this cured my usb-stick-not-detected problem.........

Hope this helps......

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 14:16    Post subject: Re: Really, really good!  

pchan wrote:
... and i don't know how it fares in terms of ram usage, cpu usage, temperature, battery drain.

But i am amazed at how well it runs without giving much problems and to enjoy the benefits of mate / xfce / lxde. ... .
You have ID what is probably the most important benefits to using distros.

That is user happiness and stability. Underlying these are how the distro exercises the hardware to provide these benefits. With your PC systems that you are using, your distros that you select makes for productive use for those things we need to achieve acceptability.

Thanks to the distro developers, here, to provide this effort for our use. THANKS!!!

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 14:57    Post subject:  

Hello Peebee,
Reinstall package works ?! Great, thanks you ! Very Happy
I am relieved that you've found the solution, some manipulations I've tried have not been very successful ...

Eventually, do you have an idea about Control Centers errors ?

Hi gcmartin,

What do you think about Cinnamon ? Very Happy
Really, I love it !

Thanks you all !
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 15:51    Post subject: Initial report: Precise Lxpup 11.12  

Hi Jejy69 and all:

Initial report about precise lxpup 11.12. My system:
Processor: 4x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor
Memory: 3375MB
ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics supporting 1600x900 pixels
RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT1708B Analog
SB {HDA ATI SB], device 1: VT1708B Digital

Manual frugal install to folder on sda2. precise lxpup provided ati radeon graphics and sound OOTB. Attempt to install frisbee generated error. Fortunately, SMS worked without difficulty. As I run several puplets, including several versions of precise, before extracting lxpup to its folder on sda2, I added a listing on Grub4Dos' menu on sdb1, with the "ram" argument so as not to inadvertantly load a SaveFile on first boot. After making initial configurations, I usually edit the Grub4Dos menu to remove the "ram" argument. I could not pmount, or otherwise access sdb1 to effect that change and had to boot into a different puppy to do so. Once booted into precise lxpup with a SaveFile, my other drives and partitions became available.
Installed lxpet and used it to install cinnamon. Ctl-Atl-Backspace and typed "xwin gnome-sessions-cinnamon" but it reported something was wrong. The first time this happened, unable to reboot to a desktop, I booted into another Puppy, deleted the SaveFile and repeated the above, with the same results. This time, however, figuring I had nothing to loose, I tried "xwin jwm", unsuccessfully; then "xwin openbox" with some success. It gave me a desktop, but complained about a pin error, I think. But the desktop allowed me to initiate lxpet and install Mate-1.4.1 which, after Ctl-Alt-Backspace and typing "xwin" with further instruction I've already forgotten gave my the Mate desktop from which I'm posting.
Both the mate-1.4.1 window manager and the default lxpup window manager appear very promising.
Conclusions so far:
lxpup really needs a windows manager switcher. Perhaps pemasu or 'foo can help. Pemasu's Exprimo has a switcher between JWM and E17. 'foo created a "general purpose" switcher pet.
pmount should work even before a SaveFile is created.
Something is wrong with cinnamon. If you know what diagnostics I could run, reports I could generate (and HOW to do so) I'll help trying to straighten this out. I really want to get this window manager working in Puppy.
I recommend that a separate thread be setup either for the slacko or precise version. If lx-pup slacko also requires adjustments,It will be quickly become very confusing keeping track of what works, what doesn't, under which computer systems, what's being fixed, what update pets apply, and so on.
Sorry about the somewhat negative report. I don't mean to discourage you. You've brought a fresh prospective to Puppy. Keep up the good --and I know hard-- work.
mikesLr
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smil99

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 18:28    Post subject:  

Can confirm mikeslr's observation. Cinnamon was sailing smoothly after install until I rebooted. Then I was greeted with an error screen (see attached taken with my iphone). Several reboots and restart X with the command "xwin gnome-session-cinnamon" couldn't put cinnamon together again. Sad

Posting from a different computer now.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 18:46    Post subject: Re: full install grub - LxPupPrecise
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@James C


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Here's a thread that may help......
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=589004#589004[/quote]


...thanks for quick reply! Smile In my case this did not work... BUT... I remembered that some installs don't work at all well when having burned to USB via Unetbootin... I was correct... when installed from CD... all is well, and now can get on with this fine distro!!!! Very Happy


THANKS AGAIN to Sir Jerome for ALL his labor of love!!!!! Very Happy
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CRF

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2012, 01:37    Post subject: PcMANFM [SOLVED]
Subject description: Symlinks
 

I don't know if this has already been brought up and it could be that I am not familiar with PcManFM....but I've been attempting to create symlinks to file folders.

I've tried right clicking with my mouse and checking all the drop down boxes in a PCManFM window and I don't see anything the resembles the ability to link files.

I've looked through the Libs files and see the arrow in the corner that links to other files....I just haven't been able to to do it myself.

Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to do this?

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2012, 01:44    Post subject: Re: PcMANFM
Subject description: Symlinks
 

CRF wrote:
I don't know if this has already been brought up and it could be that I am not familiar with PcManFM....but I've been attempting to create symlinks to file folders.

I've tried right clicking with my mouse and checking all the drop down boxes in a PCManFM window and I don't see anything the resembles the ability to link files.

I've looked through the Libs files and see the arrow in the corner that links to other files....I just haven't been able to to do it myself.

Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to do this?


In 'most' PCmanFM implementations
Creating symlink are done by dragging source file with a Ctrl+Shift hold till you drag the file to where you want. Then release the click while still holding ctrl+shift.

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pchan

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2012, 03:13    Post subject:  

Thank you for making a pc illiterate like myself feel welcome and valued.

I have enjoyed puppy linux and I am happy to see where puppy linux is goin with lxpup.

I am however having some problem with the default gnome media player because sometimes when the video is too dark and i try to adjust the video equalizer to make the pictures brighter, nothing happens.

I tried to install vlc and qt but when the video is played i can hear the sound but no player gui windows. In the case of smplayer, the gui window appears and i can see the picture but then there is no audio.

Appreciate any help on this matter because I really hope precise lx can become the main puppy linux for my everyday use.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2012, 03:21    Post subject:  

Pchan, using vlc might depend on your video driver. Try looking in the config area for video and select x11 or something else.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2012, 04:40    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
Pchan, using vlc might depend on your video driver. Try looking in the config area for video and select x11 or something else.


Thank you for replying. my video upgrade wizard says that thriis version does not offer any upgrade.

In slacko i remember i could install mensa driver. Is there a kind of mensa high driver for precise?

Thanks
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