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Hello !

@ swiftlinuxcreator : Yes, you're right, Lxde requires relatively fewer libs, compared to heavyweights like gnome or KDE.
I installed all Lx applications, libfm, libpng, gvfs, gtk 2.24.10, libimlib, but I don't remember all libraries sorry... :/
After dependencies are different depending on the Puppy, because of his age, and what is already installed.

@ starhawk : follow the advice of Eyes-Only. He gives always judicious councils.

Hello Eyes-Only, how do you do my friend ?
Thank you for advice Starhawk Those concerns are similar to Starhawk, it's really weird. So, I will continue to update the version based on Precise.
Precise link is in the first page I believe.
Thanks you Eyes Only

I tried the Precise-puppy version, as posted in thread. I will (shortly) try the newer version from the website.

As before, boot was very fast, desktop very slow. As before, appeared at 800x600 resolution (yuk!) and would not launch xorg with correct (1024x768) resolution.

The adventure ended there.

EDIT:

Thank you for advice Starhawk Those concerns are similar to Starhawk, it's really weird. So, I will continue to update the version based on Precise.

Should I not sound like myself?

Checkmate Puppy, latest version off website...

Text portion of booting very fast. Once it tries to pull up a desktop it makes me wait a while.

Still insists that my monitor is 800x600. I think that is an issue with the neomagic graphics driver; going through xorgwizard works on this version, though, so I was able to fix it.

A note about color. This laptop is OLD. There are places where the image is, well, "dithered" is the term -- lighter pixels alternate with darker pixels to show a color that the screen otherwise could not. This is the laptop at work, not your Puplet, jejy69! ...nevertheless it is mildly annoying and I've not seen it before. Perhaps it is a function of LXDE? I don't know.

LXDE seems to detect the Dell's touchpad as a very slow model, which is the opposite of other Puppies -- usually a swipe across the pad makes the cursor practically leap off the screen with enthusiasm. Here it barely crawls. Again, I do not think that was intentional. It is easily fixed, anyways.

One thing I do not like about these LXDE Puppies is that they seem to reorganize the Puppy Menu a bit. The wizards are thrown in with other setup items, and it does not make sense to me.

While things do load slightly faster on this version of Checkmate, I think my little Dell has more than made its match. Checkmate is not for this system.

One thing that Puppy has taught me well: hardware is only half of the complete picture. The other half is what you do with that hardware -- if you run Puppy, your hardware is suddenly much more capable than it would be with Windows. However, this Dell teaches that even hardware has its limits.

Jejy69, your triumph is that it boots on this system, in an extraordinarily reasonable timeframe. The limitations of the system prevent it from being useful, not anything you have done.

Hi Jejy69,

I have installed LXPup on one of my desktop PCs. It works great. Thanks.

I also tried to use it on my Eeepc 900 today (running from a 8GB SD card). The only problem that I have so far is the wireless connection does not work. In Internet Connection Wizard, it says 'No network interface detected'.

Any advice? TIA.

songzi wrote:Hi Jejy69,

I have installed LXPup on one of my desktop PCs. It works great. Thanks.

I also tried to use it on my Eeepc 900 today (running from a 8GB SD card). The only problem that I have so far is the wireless connection does not work. In Internet Connection Wizard, it says 'No network interface detected'.

Any advice? TIA.

songzi,

Lxdepup is based on Slacko 5.3. I think it is the best place to your question. Most likely it is a driver issue. If you have a software version (any) that runs well on the eeePC900, try to find out what WIFI hardware is inside the 900. Atheros ? Ralink ? Broadcom ? Realtek ? In recent puppy linux versions you find this under the "connect" icon on the desktop, where it lists "eht0" for wired ethernet, and "wlan0" for wireless.

Volhout

songzi, you need the ath5k driver to make your wireless work. This module is included in jejy69's Slacko LXDE puplet.

Here's how to make it work for you...

From the applications Menu, select Setup --> Internet Connection Wizard. Under the "Connect to Internet by" section (lower left portion), click the icon next to "Wired or wireless LAN". Select the bottom most icon for the Network Wizard.

Towards the bottom of the resulting box you should see a button, "Load module". Click it. Then scroll through the long, long list and click once on the "ath5k" driver entry to highlight it. Click the "Load" button at the top right. It should pop up a couple of click-through boxes and eventually --having clicked OK on both-- you SHOULD get back to the main network wizard screen and see both wired and wireless interfaces. If you want to continue with the Network Wizard, then select the button below the list corresponding to your new wireless connection (it could be eth1 or wlan0 or a couple other names) and the rest is pretty simple.

Or you could use Simple Network Setup, which is exactly that. To get there, click "Exit" and "try a different tool", and then the "wired or wireless LAN" button again. The topmost option, "Simple Network Setup (SNS)" is what you want there.

You could also use Frisbee, but it has a bad habit of not removing itself cleanly, so think twice about this -- if you run it, you won't be able to run anything else without booting pfix=ram and starting over (or reboot w/o save if you're running from CD).

Good luck!

...and let us know whether or not this works for you. IIRC there's a variant of the ath5k that may or may not be needed here. You'd have to PM tempestuous for help if that's the case; he's our resident driver guru and he is awesome with that stuff.

Many thanks, Volhout and starhawk.

I followed starhawk's advice trying to load module, but the module list was blank. I guessed my problem was due to corruption of system files on the SD card. I therefore downloaded the ISO again and did a re-installation. This has resolved the no interface issue.

However, SNS failed in setting up the wifi connection. It reported some DCHP errors. I turned to Frisbee and it worked well for me this time.

Thanks again and have a nice weekend.

Hi Jejy69,

I read your someone cryptic post, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 778#656778 and, wondering if it had anything to do with Lxpup, decided to explore that puppy.

My specs:
Processor: 4x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor
Memory: 3375MB
ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics supporting 1600x900 pixels
RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT1708B Analog
SB {HDA ATI SB], device 1: VT1708B Digital

I downloaded and frugally installed the Precise version. Booted fine to supported video resolution using Ati Radeon driver. Ran into a problem similar to songzi: SNS reported connection, but didn't. Network wizard would not connect at all. Installed Frisbee and that worked. For those interested both opera and firefox could be run from folders on mnt/home. Sound also worked OOTB.

I'll test some more tomorrow. Particularly interested in trying out alternate desktops. Like what I've seen so far and really appreciate a dev with new voice and different vision on the forum. Keep up the good work.

But if it's not to much trouble, I'd recommend that you set up a separate thread for Lxpup Precise. I think problems, if any, one version has may not show up in the other, and vice-versa. Having only one thread for two operating systems (versions) is likely to generate confusion and delay solutions. If you do setup another thread, this one could continue just for Lxpup slackware as most of its posts seem to have regarded that version.

mikesLr

Jejy69,

I have not been able to find out what your goal is.
At first I was looking at Lxpup as a LXDE shell onto Slacko. And that was more or less usable. Actually it looked promising enough to drop Lubuntu. My impression was that you would "perfect" this build.

Then "Precise" was added, a build that is not even into "release" state.

And now I am looking at LXDE, XFCE, MATE on both Precise and Slacko.

You are loosing me now...... What is the final goal ?

I am beginning to fear that you are creating yourself a lot of work for a single developper by the diversity ... or ... you will disappoint everybody testing Lxpup by being unable to fix all the problems they report. It is a huge task, even for a single (LXDE) desktop on a single (Slacko) OS.

I would say "focus dude" (From the movie "Nemo").

Volhout

Hello,

mikeslr,

I first answer about the cryptic message. I try to run Cinnamon under Slacko 5.3.6, but for the moment a package is impossible, there are many sensitive libs. Thanks you to try lxpup. The Precise version is not great since it is based on beta 3 ( or 4, I don't remember ).
Actually, I haven't create desktop alternative for the Precise version, because I prefer to wait the definitive version, to start a credible work. I made this version meanwhile since some people like Eyes-Only could not run Slacko. I will do as you have advised me, I'll make a separate topic when the next version comes out.
For SNS, I need more information about this concern, typing SNS in the console.

I'll test some more tomorrow. Particularly interested in trying out alternate desktops. Like what I've seen so far and really appreciate a dev with new voice and different vision on the forum. Keep up the good work.

Thanks you !!
Although many do not like, do not hesitate to give ideas.

Volhout,

I have not been able to find out what your goal is.

I want to give a distribution with Lxde desktop.
Lxde was always my first goal. For WM, I assume you speak about "Valient ship", "GeNOME". These ISO, these are experiences, as you can see, I focused only on Lxpup now, and I offer some WM as bonus. Precise is for users who can't use Slacko that's all. Do not blame me for wanting to satisfy everyone. Personally, I prefer Slacko.

Actually it looked promising enough to drop Lubuntu. My impression was that you would "perfect" this build.

I try, that's why I accept ideas.

you will disappoint everybody testing Lxpup by being unable to fix all the problems they report.

In my defense, 90% of the problems that have been posted have been corrected. For SNS, the problem is that I have no problem with it ... Yet I tried 7 different pc. How do I set a non-existent concerns? Give me infos.

I would say "focus dude" (From the movie "Nemo").

Thanks, for Pixar anecdote ! Honnestly, You're right, I do too much, and I disperse.

I try to improve...

Cheers,

Jejy69:

Don't stop the goodies coming mate.

Often it gives ideas to others for other Puppy releases.

Cheers...Chris.

Your images have all disappeared from the first post. A shame!

D'Oh !

Where are my screens ??
They all disappeared from sourceforge ...
Well, I'll recover.
Thanks StarHawk I didn't see that.

Often it gives ideas to others for other Puppy releases.

Hello Chrisbear, thanks you,
If it gives more ideas, it's great.

I would say let your fantasies materialize if you have the inclination to do so. You are pleasing the silent majority here. Awaiting to try Cinnamon ... soon even if its not fully functional.

Cheers.

Jejy69 wrote:In my defense, 90% of the problems that have been posted have been corrected. For SNS, the problem is that I have no problem with it ... Yet I tried 7 different pc. How do I set a non-existent concerns?

I have not tried LXPup yet, but I thought I would comment on this SNS thing. I have tried many, many pups and many machines and cannot remember ever having been able to connect successfully with SNS. It just doesn't work for me.
I also seem to have dhcpcd problems with some pups that other people find 100% successful. I think the problems are sometimes caused by the particular brand/model of the router/ADSL modem. That is the only answer I can come up with - because it is the only common item in my SNS troubles.

If I use the standard (dougal) connect wizard my router will connect reliably (as long as the dhcpcd code is good - but not all puppies have the good version of that code)

Hi Jejy69,

I've tried LXPup and I'm still using it. But the problem is that Wine doesn't seem to work with PCManFM. Everything in this distro suites me except this problem.

Could you solve this problem for me?

Thanks
Mufeed Ali, LXPup User

I look it right away.
Thanks for your report and trying it.

Okay, Wine works but is not set as the default action in Pcmanfm.

To install/use a windows program, simply click on it, go to 'Custom command line' type 'wine', and 'ok'.
The file will be launched with wine.

Hello,

Lxpup 11.12 Precise edition released.
Dedicated to Eyes-Only

Hum, sorry for so many posts, I have forget to notice WmChooser is available for Lxpup precise 11.12.
The package is attached in the first post.
You will be able to install KDE 4.5.8/4.9.1 and Mate 1.2/1.4.

I think I have nothing to forget...