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I decided to compile it after making the request, so disregard that post. Here it is:

If you could post any screenshots for us, we would appreciate it. Thanks, Rob

a great lighter alternative to current desktop icons

Are you actually using this for the desktop icons but still using Rox as your filer? That seems like it would be pretty pointless...

I think this would be good for openbox or Pekwm. I mean outside of puppy.
Inside of puppy, it should be used with something like Awesome, though that would defeat the purpose of Awesome.

I think this would be good for openbox or Pekwm.

You do know that it is Rox which controls the desktop icons, not JWM, don't you? So they work exactly the same if you use openbox or Pekwm...

Just created a compatible drive icon management program for iDesk. As soon as I cleaned up everything I'll upload a dotpet here.

EDIT:

Here we go.
The icons will be displayed on the bottom left of the screen. Left-clicking will either mount the device and start ROX, OR just starts ROX if the device is already mounted. Right-clicking them will unmount the devicec if possible. Please be aware that in order to refresh the icons, idesk needs to restart. Therefore, the desktop will flicker. Not very pretty, but I can't change that.

In order to sync the creation script with the current icon creation system, add "CreateIdeskDeviceEntries" as the last command in "create_icon_func" in /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d

wow thank you for the package.

No problem. Please let me know if it works. Not that I accidently forgot a script or two. ^^

I tested it in my Akita Linux VM (VirtualBox), and it works perfectly.

You do know that it is Rox which controls the desktop icons, not JWM, don't you?

I actually didn't, I forgot.

Is ROX that resource heavy, though? I did read that there is a file manger based on ROX that claims to be even smaller by removing alot of unnecessary features. Unfortunately it uses KDE libs.

If Idesk is indeed a better alternative to ROX, then it might be a good idea to see if there are even lighter alternatives.

It appears to me as though that is where puppy should go. Finding innovative ways to accomplish with less memory what most computers would need a infinite store of RAM and CPU to accomplish.

Gnuxo wrote:

You do know that it is Rox which controls the desktop icons, not JWM, don't you?

I actually didn't, I forgot.

Is ROX that resource heavy, though?

No.
And if you're still using Rox as your filer I'd say it is definitely best to use it for your desktop icons as well.
1. It is simpler than adding a separate program for the desktop icons.
2. It saves having both Rox and iDesk running at the same time
3. If you don't use Rox to manage either your desktop or a panel, then the Rox history menu (on the bookmarks menu) is cleared every time you close the last Rox window. This is annoying.

I did read that there is a file manger based on ROX that claims to be even smaller by removing alot of unnecessary features. Unfortunately it uses KDE libs.

You must have your wires crossed there. Maybe you heard about a lighter version of Konqueror or something? Nothing based on Rox would use KDE libs, and nothing using KDE libs would count as light compared to Rox.

If Idesk is indeed a better alternative to ROX, then it might be a good idea to see if there are even lighter alternatives.

Idesk is not an alternative to Rox, as it only provides desktop icons, not a filer.
To replace Rox you need Idesk plus a filer. This would be worth looking into if you're using say fifteen year old hardware, or if you want a filer with a tree view. But personally if I used extremely old hardware I think my preferred option would be to use the old GTK1.2 version of Rox, rather than some other alternative.

idesk look like on my puplet
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 54&t=52562

Could pcmanfm not control the desktop back then?

its idesk.

for icons using coordinat so wont go anywhere, and for drive icon just let it go and placed there. so will be automatic if a drive pluggin in. and will be flicker

searching my old pet..

there is

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54721

Are you saying pcmanfm was capable of providing the desktop icons, but you chose to use idesk for that instead?

pcmanfm can manage desktop, but its will be big, so i remove it, remove rox and using pcmanfm just for file manager and idesk for desktop ^_^

its pointless if still using rox and idesk.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51828

pcmanfm without desktop

I just remembered about SpaceFM. SpaceFM is based on pcmanfm but it has the ability to manage the desktop, including wallpaper and icons; I think.

I don't know if it's a lighter weight alternative but it's an alternative.

but it has the ability to manage the desktop, including wallpaper and icons

Pcmanfm has this ability now. That's why I was asking if it didn't have it back when pri made his puplet.