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Dewbie
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Posted: Fri 06 Jul 2012, 05:35 Post subject:
Can PuppyBrowser / help-browser history be deleted? (SOLVED) |
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Links change from blue to purple after they're clicked.
So history is being stored somewhere...but where?
(Deleting history from SeaMonkey 1.1.11 doesn't make a difference.)
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Flash
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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 9840 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Fri 06 Jul 2012, 09:00 Post subject:
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My WAG is that the history is kept in SeaMonkey's cache. If you tell SeaMonkey to put the cache in /tmp, the cache is not saved when Puppy shuts down. You can tell SeaMonkey where to put its cache by going to Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Cache, clicking Choose folder and then navigating to /tmp (if that's where you want the cache to be kept.)
If I'm wrong about where SeaMonkey keeps its history, you can in desperation run Puppy from a multisession DVD and simply not save when you shut down. That's what I do.
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ravensrest

Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 298 Location: Hood Canal, WA
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Posted: Fri 06 Jul 2012, 11:02 Post subject:
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How about the "Clear History" tab under History in the Edit Preferences menu? Works on my Seamonkey. Deleting Cache does not delete history, nor does eliminating history.mab.
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9382 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Fri 06 Jul 2012, 12:20 Post subject:
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I think that Flash get's this right. We do have a thread
where somebody did found out this fact about Seamonkey too
and tried to find a way to delete that info.
What about Firefox does that one behave like SeaMonkey do?
And IceWeasel and IceApe and other such varieties? Do they too?
How can one find out.
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Dewbie
Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Posts: 1412
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Posted: Sat 07 Jul 2012, 22:34 Post subject:
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Thanks, guys.
I also tried this with 4.3.1 and PuppyBrowser; same result.
Although the help / Puppy browsers are somehow linked to SeaMonkey, clearing cache / cookies / history from SeaMonkey won't clear history from help / Puppy browsers.
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Flash
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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 9840 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Sun 08 Jul 2012, 00:10 Post subject:
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Oops, I completely misunderstood your initial question.
In theory, you could make a backup copy of your Save file, then compare it to your Save file after you do some browsing, to see what changed.
If you have a full install, finding where the history is being stored might be easier if you boot from CD with the pfix=ram boot option, then create a Save file when you shut down, just for the experiment. I've never done this though, so I can't guarantee it won't bork your full install.
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Dewbie
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Posted: Sun 08 Jul 2012, 04:37 Post subject:
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Flash wrote:
| Quote: | | In theory, you could make a backup copy of your Save file, then compare it to your Save file after you do some browsing, to see what changed. |
Given that I always run frugal, I tried this method.
However, after combing through all the save-file files, I couldn't find any clues.
I know that mtpaint sets up its own history file whenever it's launched (hidden mtpaint file in root; delete it to clear history--replaced at next launch), and was hoping that something similar applied to the help/Puppy browser. But so far, no luck.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Flash
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Posted: Sun 08 Jul 2012, 11:04 Post subject:
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Maybe you could use a difference-finding program to compare the two Save files. I don't offhand know of one, but something like a backup program that only records the delta. How does Barry generate the delta files for his Puppy updates?
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Dewbie
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Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 01:20 Post subject:
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OK, finally found them!
In Puppy Linux 4.1.2, which has SeaMonkey 1.1.11:
/ root (show hidden files) / .TestGtkEmbed / TestGtkEmbed / history.dat
In Puppy Linux 4.3.1, which has SeaMonkey 1.1.18:
/ root (show hidden files) / PuppyBrowser / mozilla / history.dat
In Wary 5.1.1, which has SeaMonkey 2.0.11:
Using browser: Tools / Delete Private Data
In Wary 5.1.4.1, which has SeaMonkey 1.1.18:
Easy way, using browser: Edit / Preferences / History / Clear History
Traditional way: / root (show hidden files) / mozilla / default / r3y1skkw.slt / history.dat
And just for grins ...
Abiword history file:
/ root (show hidden files) / .AbiSuite / AbiWord.Profile
Softmaker Office 2008 history file:
PlanMaker: / root (show hidden files) / .softmaker / pm08config.ini
TextMaker: / root (show hidden files) / .softmaker / tm08config.ini
In all cases, delete these to remove history.
They're automatically replaced.
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Flash
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Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 10:28 Post subject:
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Dewbie, how did you find them?
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ravensrest

Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 298 Location: Hood Canal, WA
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Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 11:11 Post subject:
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The history.dat file seems to have been abandoned in going to Seamonkey 2.0. At least it is not present in my 2.6.1 version. Instead, the history data appear to be contained in the places.sqlite files.
In any case, it seems simply clicking on "Clear history" under the Preferences tab does the job without messing with the guts of Seamonkey.
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Dewbie
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Posted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 03:32 Post subject:
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Flash wrote:
| Quote: | Dewbie, how did you find them? |
I missed them the first time because in the 4.x Puppies, they appear as multimedia files (see below), and gxine (media player) launches when they're left-clicked. This totally threw me off.
But they open as text when right-clicked, which I found during a later search.
ravensrest is correct.
There is no history.dat file in SeaMonkey 2.0.11.
Everything, including help-browser history, is deleted through the main browser.
And, oddly enough, BarryK set up SeaMonkey 1.1.18 to do the same in Wary 5.1.4.1; deleting history through the main browser also deletes history in the help browser.
But this method won't work with 1.x SeaMonkey browsers in the 4.x Puppies.
It has to be done the long way.
(Also note my revisions in above post.)
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