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rhadon


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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 16:52    Post subject:  

@eowens2
Sorry, I've forgotten that there are some more simlpe steps. Embarassed
Open a terminal (console, the icon on the desktop),
type fixmenus
hit ENTER
restart X (menu->Shutdown->Restart X)

Now it should work Wink .

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 20:44    Post subject:  

@rhadon
I wish I could bring good news!

I right-clicked all of the /usr/share/applications/Ace-of-Penguin.desktop items (10 of them!), and replaced " Categories=Utilities" with "Categories=Games", saved file, went to a console and entered "fixmenus" <enter>, and restarted X.

The result was that all of the games disappeared from the "Utilities/General Utilities" menu, but did not appear under any other menu! But the game would still run by clicking on /usr/share/applications/name-of-game.desktop or doing /usr/game/ace-nameofgame at the console.

I repeated the above, replacing "Categories=Utilities" with "Categories=Fun" (since that is the category in Puppy's menus), but the result was the same.

As others have said, I think PPM in alpha SAP is acting a little flakey.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 23:37    Post subject:  

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I right-clicked all of the /usr/share/applications/Ace-of-Penguin.desktop items (10 of them!), and replaced " Categories=Utilities" with "Categories=Games",


try with just Categories=Game

(not plural)

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 03:11    Post subject:  

Quote:
arm_freq=850
sdram_freq=500
gpu_freq = 250


Guys please err on the side of caution if you are not sure what you are doing.

I recently watched a video of Eben. He was asked about overclocking, he mentioned warranty and then admitted that everyone at Raspberry HQ overclocks. So the conservative overclocking above is something I would try.

Also be aware that a cheaper (no ethernet board) will be available. So raspberri killing might be a cheaper future option for those pushing the limits. Poor little ARM chip.

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 04:24    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:


Guys please err on the side of caution if you are not sure what you are doing.

I recently watched a video of Eben. He was asked about overclocking, he mentioned warranty and then admitted that everyone at Raspberry HQ overclocks. So the conservative overclocking above is something I would try.



I have read somewhere that increasing the voltage will probably damage the chip over time. I wanted to try it to see for myself the relative performance. Day-to-day I just use the settings Lobster quotes.

glxgears test

"Safe" overclock: best reading was 19.170 fps

No overclock: 19.077 fps

Over-voltage: 26.994 fps
Over-voltage with swapon - 29.103

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 14:20    Post subject:  

@rhadon, @ 01micko - mea culpa! Both of you were entirely correct!

Changing "Categories=Games" to "Categories=Game" in /usr/share/applications/nameofgame.desktop for each of the files, did the trick. In the puppy menu system it relocated the games from "Utilities/General Utilities/list-of-games" to "Fun/list-of-games".

Thanks again.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 11:38    Post subject:  

rhadon wrote:
Well, I found a workaround for my keyboard layout problem Very Happy .

When I edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change XkbLayout from "us" to "de", everything works fine.

~Rolf


Thanks very much for that. I have tracked the problem down to the 'keymap-set' script. Fixed, I will upload Woof soon.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 11:59    Post subject:  

eowens2 wrote:
Another observation about PPM. I must have somehow accidentally un-ticked "debian-squeeze-contrib" and "debian-squeeze-main" as repos, because they disappeared from the list at the top of the PPM main page. I clicked on "Configure package manager" and re-ticked those two repositories, clicked on "O.K." and exited PPM.

However on re-entering PPM, those two repos are still missing from the list (and if I again go into "Configure package manager", those two repos are again un-ticked).


I just tested this, it works fine for me. I hope that you obeyed the instruction not to tick more than 5 repos.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 12:03    Post subject:  

eowens2 wrote:
The Puppy Package Manager still seems to be struggling to do its thing...it seems to want to install the program again after it reports having successfully installed it. Maybe I am doing something wrong.


I did a test install with PPM, no problem.

You are probably double-clicking on an entry instead of single-clicking.

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rrolsbe

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 13:06    Post subject: HTTPS: in general is slow.
Subject description: Would OpenSSL assembly optimizations help?
 

http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=8433

The general speed of browsing using Chrome is OK not stellar but anything using HTTPS:/SSL is slow. Maybe the OpenSSL assembly optimizations would speed things up???

One of the things I always do is read my web based mail at
https://mail.google.com and even with when using basic HTML it is quite slow.

When testing future alpha/beta versions might want test it by reading ssl google email.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 19:05    Post subject: berryboot
Subject description: boot menu using squashfs and save file
 

I know this is a little off topic but check it out.

http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot

He is basically using this to boot into several OS's using a single SDHC card. This method is basically how I have used Puppy Linux for close to 10 years. Until the Raspberry Pi, I have always ran Puppy Linux using only sfs and pupsave files (ie.. I have never seen an advantage to install Puppy on any x86 system I have ever used.) I like the idea of backing up only the PupSave file and having multiple PupSave files to choose from. I normally run Puppy from a hardware write lockable USB stick in write locked mode (very hard to pick up a virus because there is no mass storage persistence after a reboot in this mode - great for airline travel also, I just turn off the power using the power button and all is good!!). Booting from a remastered CD can also work in a similar way.

Sorry for getting a little off topic but Puppy has been basically using the same berryboot mechanisms for years.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 20:03    Post subject: Re: berryboot
Subject description: boot menu using squashfs and save file
 

rrolsbe wrote:
I know this is a little off topic but check it out.

http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot

He is basically using this to boot into several OS's using a single SDHC card.


You can see that sort of thing happening in this video: http://youtu.be/yseT4USH8SY, it's interesting to note that the board used also has an ARM processor albeit a different one than the Raspberry Pi uses.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jul 2012, 01:08    Post subject:  

Berryboot is an interesting possibility Smile

Puppi = Multiboot configs on SD with a selection from the ARM kennel

Puppi SAP - Barry Kauler. Presently Debian.
Puppi SLR - Slackware base, compile from Micko using Woof2 (not yet available)
Puppi RasPy - Python programming set up. Arch base from Antiloquax
Puppi Console - From Sickgut, games Puppi set up (he does not even have a board - just an intent)
Puppi Wheezy - Debian Wheezy Base, faster code, more experimental. Alpha1 release to be available aprox 18 July 2012

As Puppi develops this would certainly be the option I would want to run. Very Happy

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nooby

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jul 2012, 01:47    Post subject:  

Thanks Ron,

I am not on that level so I don't have a clue on what is going on
but I very much appreciate you told us about it. That is the spirit
that allow us to cooperate.

Friendly teasing. "win32-image-writer," Is that on Ms Win an exe program?
Kind of cute that one need MsWin to install Linux on RPi. Giggling madly.

Okay one can most likely do dd from Puppy to do it too?

I will most likely buy one of the MK802 or FXI Cotton Candy
or the TizzBird or whatever name they have MiniX or A10 or ...

RPi gives me the impression it is less advanced? For education
more than for a home PC for old crazy guys like me who have no edu at all.

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rhadon


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jul 2012, 04:07    Post subject:  

Hi rrolsbe,
This looks really amazing. Cool

Downloaded and installed, but no time now for testing. Must wait till evening. Evil or Very Mad

My first thought, fine. I use the card as it is, and add an entry for Puppy, booting from sda1. This doesn't seems to be realistic.

Maybe copying everything from 2nd partition of the sd card to a usb hd partition could work?

Well, i wish I had time now and must not wait.

Thanks for the link,
Rolf

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