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Re: Firefox 13 does not work

#91 Post by James C »

Jim1911 wrote:Fresh installation on Dell Inspiron laptop.

Installed Firefox 13 using Fatdog Package Manager. It does not work. I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it several times from different mirrors. Same results. Executing code firefox-spot results in # firefox-spot
sh: /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox: No such file or directory Likewise for firefox.

I cannot locate a firefox directory anywhere.

Installation changes Seamonkey icon to Firefox icon, however it opens Seamonkey.

I had a similar problem with my desktop computer installation and attributed that to a bad download. However, I think there is more to it since I get same results from both ibiblio and nluug. It may be better to create a pet from something other than the nightly build.

Otherwise, everything checked on the laptop is working great.
Hadn't gotten around to reporting it but the same thing happened here.
The Firefox directory is located at /usr/lib64/firefox-13.0/ ..... I just changed the exec line in the desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ to run FF as root.

Download was actually fine but FF wouldn't launch. Editing the desktop file worked here.
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#92 Post by jamesbond »

nooby wrote:Hope it is okay to ask this very naive question.
Ooops seems to be Lupu that is the "culprit"
sorry. I will write in their thread instead.

old now deprecated text.

I am in Lupu 528 now and have set time to CET Central European Time
with Summer displacement so it show the right time.

But after doing a frugal install of FatDog it changed to plus 2 hour extra
so instead of 14.10 it show 16.10 in the old Lupu when I boot into that one
again.

I tried to set up local time in same way on FadDog as I do in Lupu. 14.10

What could have went wrong? On Lupu I have ticked the BIOS Hardware
time should take priority.

Why would that make FatDog shutdown displacing time two hours plus?
I will now reboot from Lupu into Fatdog again and see what happens there
if it shows 14 or 16 so I get back and
Edit from FD. I shows 14.30 so I will boot into Lupu again.
Edit from Lupu. This time it is plus 2 hours without having touched anything
on neither Lupu not on FatDog. So just the fact that I rebooted and chose
Fatdog change the time in BIOS with two hours???

Or what is going on Please a mystery to be solved or a Noob to bash for bad acting :)
Fatdog always uses localtime for the BIOS clock. Other puppies offer possibilities to use either localtime or UTC time in the BIOS clock. To make sure the time stays the same between Lupu and Fatdog, choose "localtime" in Lupu.
This is a design decision - Windows-based machines uses localtime for BIOS clock, so Fatdog uses localtime too to ensure that switching to/from Windows will not accidentally change the time. Of course, by using localtime in BIOS clock, we lose that automatic daylight savings time, but that is an advantage because automatic DST settings doesn't always work :)
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#93 Post by James C »

Addition to previous post, Package Manager failed to download package list from ibiblio .... so I just used nluug.
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#94 Post by jamesbond »

James C wrote:Addition to previous post, Package Manager failed to download package list from ibiblio .... so I just used nluug.
I just tested, ibiblio works from here ... perhaps there was random traffic problem just now :D
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Re: Firefox 13 does not work

#95 Post by Jim1911 »

jamesbond wrote: Jim, the screenshot you take shows that the firefox binaries are not installed at all. I just tested it again; the firefox pet is working.

The one that is possibly not working for you is petget installer. If you don't mind, please try this:
1. Edit the file /usr/sbin/silent_petget
2. Goto line 86
3. Near the end of the line, when you see "cpio -p $INSTALL_ROOT", change that to "cpio -up $INSTALL_ROOT"
4. Then try to install firefox again.
Let me know.

cheers!
Your edit works, posting from Firefox.

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Re: Firefox 13 does not work

#96 Post by jamesbond »

Jim1911 wrote:
jamesbond wrote: Jim, the screenshot you take shows that the firefox binaries are not installed at all. I just tested it again; the firefox pet is working.

The one that is possibly not working for you is petget installer. If you don't mind, please try this:
1. Edit the file /usr/sbin/silent_petget
2. Goto line 86
3. Near the end of the line, when you see "cpio -p $INSTALL_ROOT", change that to "cpio -up $INSTALL_ROOT"
4. Then try to install firefox again.
Let me know.

cheers!
Your edit works, posting from Firefox.
Thank you for testing :D fix is now included for next release.
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#97 Post by jamesbond »

New 32bit libs based on Slacko 5.3.3 is available now.
Get it from here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... g/sfs/600/ or one of the mirrors listed in the first page.

rcrsn51 has kindly tested and confirms that it works with 32-bit printer drivers as well.

cheers!
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#98 Post by jamesbond »

smokey01 wrote:I also noticed you are using a pretty old ffmpeg. Here is a link to the latest source.
http://ffmpeg.org/releases/ffmpeg-0.11.1.tar.bz2

Thanks
They move fast don't they :lol: ffmpeg was the latest when kirk compiled it back in Feb (kirk took it from git master - the latest development branch). I'll leave the decision to kirk quite a lot depends on ffmpeg, updating ffmpeg means rebuilding a lot of stuff.
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#99 Post by nooby »

jamesbond thanks for the advice on pclock and how to set up time for Puppy.
You are right now that you remind me I do remember I read that advice some
months ago. Sorry for having pooooor memory .
jamesbond wrote:New 32bit libs based on Slacko 5.3.3 is available now.
Get it from here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... g/sfs/600/ or one of the mirrors listed in the first page.

rcrsn51 has kindly tested and confirms that it works with 32-bit printer drivers as well.

cheers!
Does that mean one can have a 32-bit version of FatDog that is 100%
compatible with every 32-bit pet? I am so dense.

Re Firefox and the edit. Good to know. I don't want to loose bookmarks
either and I am more used to FF and FatDog already being more than
128MB why can it not be FireFox from scratch and SM as something
the SM luvrs add because them being enthusiastic about it.
I mean if 99% love FireFox then why force all those to have two browsers

*Friendly Smile*
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#100 Post by kirk »

Just compiled FFmpeg-0.11.1 and rebuilt vlc and kino (though it seems to be compatible). It will be in the next release.

Does that mean one can have a 32-bit version of FatDog that is 100%
compatible with every 32-bit pet?
No, but with most. Especially ones for Slacko 5.3.3. I almost never need to use 32bit packages, except for proprietary stuff that's only released 32bit.

I mean if 99% love FireFox then why force all those to have two browsers
For the final release there will be a Seamonkey iso and a Firefox iso.

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#101 Post by nooby »

Cool that will be a blessing :) Love when developers care about us users.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#102 Post by James C »

From the new Distrowatch Weekly..
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120618
Puppy Linux, the most popular of the ultra-small Linux distributions on the market, has often been criticised by reviewers for always "running as root" and for disregarding one of the most basic among the UNIX security principles. Now some community members on the project's forum responded with a special Puppy derivative called "Fatdog64", a 64-bit Puppy build with extra applications and, most importantly, an experimental multi-user setup. This beta release includes Linux kernel 3.4.2, SeaMonkey 2.10, Flash Player 11.2.202.236, and numerous bug fixes since alpha 2. From the announcement: "James and myself are happy to announce Fatdog64-600 beta 1. Here are the changes since alpha2: SFS works with multisession; add libdbus_glib; uses BusyBox blkid (faster) instead of util-linux blkid; volume label display on drive icons can be turned off; bug fix with first-time session save; hardinfo patched - does not crash, show Fatdog64 version; Windows-K key is shortcut for xkill (to kill windows apps); new control panel - all system/settings apps are now here; QuickApps - create application shortcuts; urxvt 9.15 (without Perl extension); command-line tool to split Fatdog humongous initrd to standard Puppy initrd for faster USB boot; experimental multi-user (some applications are still broken; some PET packages do not support non-root)."

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#103 Post by capicoso »

How many beta stages are scheduled?

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#104 Post by jamesbond »

James C wrote:From the new Distrowatch Weekly..
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120618
Puppy Linux, the most popular of the ultra-small Linux distributions on the market, has often been criticised by reviewers for always "running as root" and for disregarding one of the most basic among the UNIX security principles. Now some community members on the project's forum responded with a special Puppy derivative called "Fatdog64", a 64-bit Puppy build with extra applications and, most importantly, an experimental multi-user setup. This beta release includes Linux kernel 3.4.2, SeaMonkey 2.10, Flash Player 11.2.202.236, and numerous bug fixes since alpha 2. From the announcement: "James and myself are happy to announce Fatdog64-600 beta 1. Here are the changes since alpha2: SFS works with multisession; add libdbus_glib; uses BusyBox blkid (faster) instead of util-linux blkid; volume label display on drive icons can be turned off; bug fix with first-time session save; hardinfo patched - does not crash, show Fatdog64 version; Windows-K key is shortcut for xkill (to kill windows apps); new control panel - all system/settings apps are now here; QuickApps - create application shortcuts; urxvt 9.15 (without Perl extension); command-line tool to split Fatdog humongous initrd to standard Puppy initrd for faster USB boot; experimental multi-user (some applications are still broken; some PET packages do not support non-root)."
Sounds good ! :D
How many beta stages are scheduled?
I'll leave this for kirk :)
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#105 Post by kirk »

How many beta stages are scheduled?
One more beta release that will contain the kernel that will be used in final. Then a release candidate, that will be renamed as final if it's OK. Right now, this is the plan if no big problems turn up along the way.

Big thanks to all the folks testing.

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NVIDIA

#106 Post by Jim1911 »

Pemasu and others have come up with a great pet to install the latest NVIDIA driver. It would be great if this also works for Fatdog. Is it safe to try?

Cheers,
Jim

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Left Handed Mouse?

#107 Post by oldroy »

Kudos to Kirk and James Bond on the latest Fatdog. Fatdog -521 has been a favorite of mine ever since it came out.

I tried running 600a2 beta in memory and everything works except for the missing mouse keyboard wizard. A minor complaint unless you are left handed.

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#108 Post by Gobbi »

Hi , everybody ! :D

I started using Fatdog with 521 and I was pleased because is fast , runs in RAM and it's portable and made a custom version :D , where I managed , among other things , to make it start from a flash drive directly onto hdmi audio since I'm using a TV as monitor over an hdmi cable. Later I saw that instead of reboot I could simply use RestartX , to switch the sound cards from Multiple Sound Card Wizard .
The fact is I wanted to do it without making a save file for not increasing the custom version .

Now , Fatdog 600 evolves and I gave it some tries . The wpa supplicant does not work , I'm using Network Manager so it's fine. On Youtube , on both Seamonkey and Firefox the videos were running like FastForward with no sound at all , I checked up Flash Player properties and updated it , and did the same for the browsers : now works fine.

I can't pass this one : After I switch the sound cards from Multiple Sound Card Wizard and unmute the digital channel from AlsaMixer , using RestartX doesn't make it work . No sound over HDMI :!:
Is there any :idea: way doing it without making a save file and reboot ???

My system :

-Computer-
Processor : 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
Memory : 8165MB (268MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Fatdog64 [bb155f4388]
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue Jun 19 22:46:15 2012
-Display-
Resolution : 1360x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on AMD JUNIPER
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
-Input Devices-
Power Button
Power Button
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
PC Speaker

Kernel Modules
--------------

-Loaded Modules-
snd_pcm_oss : PCM OSS emulation for ALSA.
snd_seq_dummy : ALSA sequencer MIDI-through client
snd_seq_oss : OSS-compatible sequencer module
snd_seq_midi_event : MIDI byte <-> sequencer event coder
snd_seq : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture sequencer.
snd_seq_device : ALSA sequencer device management
snd_mixer_oss : Mixer OSS emulation for ALSA.
snd_hda_codec_hdmi : HDMI HD-audio codec
joydev : Joystick device interfaces
rtl8187 : RTL8187/RTL8187B USB wireless driver
mac80211 : IEEE 802.11 subsystem
cfg80211 : wireless configuration support
rfkill : RF switch support
eeprom_93cx6 : EEPROM 93cx6 chip driver
ppdev
parport_pc : PC-style parallel port driver
parport
snd_hda_codec_realtek : Realtek HD-audio codec
wmi : ACPI-WMI Mapping Driver
radeon : ATI Radeon
snd_hda_intel : Intel HDA driver
r8169 : RealTek RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver
snd_hda_codec : HDA codec core
ttm : TTM memory manager subsystem (for DRM device)
mii : MII hardware support library
snd_pcm : Midlevel PCM code for ALSA.
drm_kms_helper : DRM KMS helper
k10temp : AMD Family 10h+ CPU core temperature monitor
snd_timer : ALSA timer interface

snd : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture driver for soundcards.
cfbimgblt : Generic software accelerated imaging drawing
soundcore : Core sound module

snd_page_alloc : Memory allocator for ALSA system.


Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5
GPU : Radeon HD 5770

Thank's in advance for any kind of answer .
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gcmartin

#109 Post by gcmartin »

nooby wrote: ... I mean if 99% love FireFox then why...
Hi Nooby,

You may not know this, but SM (really Mozilla) is the follow-on to the Netscape contribution to the browser community.

The reason so many still use it is that, like Netscape, it is a full-featured advance subsystem....not just a browser. It, to date, still maintains fidelity with Firefox, Thunderbird, etc which are the components of SM broken up and supported as separate packages.

The weight of SM is not that extravagant for the functionality it provides the Puppy development community and the users. Thus, it promotes the lightweight system and the subsystem integration for a great OOTB experience.

I am/have been a user of Netscape, Mozilla, SM and FF for as long as I can remember when I became befuddled with Microsoft's IE. And, I love the fact that the SM developers pride themselves with the speed, size, and integration that they provide all who want to use SM.

As a FF and Thunderbird user as well, you might want to look at those items which provide fidelity with SM such that you can easily pull/push settings, bookmarks, and etc in both directions.

Thus the decision by any developer to stay consistent with Barry's view of an small RAM-based integrated distro displays that integration through its design for user understanding and use. While also, the Puppy developers have made constant strides to insure we have a one of the widest selections of browser anywhere; namely, IRON, Chrome, Opera, Dillo, Tor, Midori, etc.

I don't encourage anyone follow my behavior, but, I do use 4 different browsers because of some unique differences where on certain sites things work and render differently to the browser's benefit. I have come to understand this and have each browser bookmarked accordingly.

This post is just my observations that I have seen in the community since joining. In no way am I speaking for any developer or user.

But, hoping this could be some understanding for our benefit.


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#110 Post by Gobbi »

The standard ISO works fine when using the Analog Audio , that is mobo's audio .
Both of the problems I've noticed , happen only when I switch the sound card to use hdmi , that is I have no sound and Flash Player on the browser works like a FLASH .
I think it's the GPU that does not go along very well with Fatdog 600b1 . Actually on FD 521 the ati-catalyst pet was installed .
Maybe a similar pet for FD 600 could be on the way ?

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