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#211 Post by Billtoo »

smokey01 wrote: Shotwell looks interesting, lots of dependencies though.
Shotwell is available in the precise repos in precise puppy beta 2, I just took a quick look at it (I had to start it with gexec with the runs in terminal box checked) but it seems to work okay, slideshow works at least.
If you have room for a puppy precise install on one of your pcs.
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#212 Post by Sylvander »

rcrsn51 wrote:Kirk explained how to do that above.
If I understood correctly...
He explained how TYPE a rather complicated command at the command prompt, at the 5-sec pause, during startup.
Too much of a hassle for my liking.

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#213 Post by smokey01 »

Billtoo wrote:
smokey01 wrote: Shotwell looks interesting, lots of dependencies though.
Shotwell is available in the precise repos in precise puppy beta 2, I just took a quick look at it (I had to start it with gexec with the runs in terminal box checked) but it seems to work okay, slideshow works at least.
If you have room for a puppy precise install on one of your pcs.
Thanks Billtoo, I will have a look.

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#214 Post by jamesbond »

BHINTZ wrote:I have loaded Iron.sfs and get a warning that I am running as root and I have been warned, but the browser does activate. I tried running in terminal as root and get some message about C. I tried as spot and get a message about libORBit.....
Can someone give a clue how to use this browser?
Much appreciated,
bob
Bob, iron doesn't currently run as spot. Not if you do it through the usual "su spot" stuff. You need to be logged in properly as "spot" (or any other user) - the easiest way to do it is by using the user manager.
Don't worry about those C stuff if the browser runs :)
Sylvander wrote:
rcrsn51 wrote:Kirk explained how to do that above.
If I understood correctly...
He explained how TYPE a rather complicated command at the command prompt, at the 5-sec pause, during startup.
Too much of a hassle for my liking.
If that is too long, just type "search=2" instead. This will look for savefiles in stored at 2 levels deep. It will find savefile in /fd600/fd64save*. If you need deeper level, type "search=3", this will find /mysavefile/fd600/fd64save*. Remember as you go deeper, the more scanning the system has to do *for every drives*; it will slow down the boot process a lot. Best is still to do what kirk recommends - specify the exact location of the savefile. If you find that typing is too long, create a remaster and type that inside syslinux.cfg when asked to - it will become your default settings.
Note remaster has a problem with running as non-root, this is fixed in the next release.
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#215 Post by jamesbond »

Newer versions:
Fatdog 600 beta2 is here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79265
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#216 Post by Sylvander »

jamesbond wrote:If that is too long, just type "search=2" instead.
I must be getting lazy in my old age.
Think I'll stick with the method I'm using at present...
Which is to type nothing at all.
I moved the file into the root folder...
And the Puppy finds it without any command being issued. :D

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#217 Post by mini-jaguar »

Nice, it has two obvious fixes:

1. There aren't many missing icons in the menu, like in Alpha 2. This doesn't really affect functionality, but it looks much nicer in Beta 1.

2. The wallpaper setter doesn't cut off certain wallpapers like in Alpha 2, as noted that it's fixed in the o.p. of this thread as well.

Speaking of wallpapers, I made one a while ago:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=1140
and here are two more from futwerk, older ones, the blue one works well as a tile too:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=990

Some things I am having problems with though are Audacity and Wine. They simply don't run, and didn't in Alpha 2 either, although they are in the menus. (edit: oh, damn, I just now noticed beta 2, I'll have to try that)

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#218 Post by Sage »

Many thanks, jb.
Beta1 took 6hrs to d/l but worth every penny. This one seems to be heading that way, so might look at the mirrors if it's still going tomorrow morning.
Update: just over the hour! Tested on beta2 thread, having sound problems.

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#219 Post by gcmartin »

I see posts on FATDOG600 thread about the time increase at boot for initrd.

I just wanted to share some info that might help in understanding what is being done in FATDOG600. Up until now, this technology was only used in the Netboot technology that is in all the 32bit and 64bit Repos for each respective distro.

Rather than have initrd call an external file SFS, the intrd in the ISO have the SFS buried within. This provides some minor savings in boot time, but it guarantees that the could be reduced confusion on where to look for the SFS that is being used at boot.

So, should one understand that, we see a combined initrd doing what use to be separate initrd and sfs files at boot-time....not separate times.

With the Netboot facility, this provided some obvious advantage (and, probably was a good testbed for the building of Puppy PXE technology and use.)

I hope this makes sense and provides some level of understanding. With this, it provides some observance of how this is useful on stand-alone booting as well as PXE booting for any one of us. Hoping soon to get a new document (and also we may see some simple instructions forthcoming) to show how easy it is to PXE boot FATDOG600 ("Fatdog600 Netbooting").

Hope this helps

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wine sfs does not work

#220 Post by Anniekin »

downloaded and loaded wine sfs for fatdog 600

it says '/usr/bin/wine not found' when run from terminal

which is strange because it shows up in file manager

any chance for a skype 4.0 sfs?

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#221 Post by nooby »

I would try with Beta 2 instead of the old Beta 1 in case
a lot of things is better in Beta 2?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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Re: wine sfs does not work

#222 Post by jamesbond »

Anniekin wrote:downloaded and loaded wine sfs for fatdog 600

it says '/usr/bin/wine not found' when run from terminal

which is strange because it shows up in file manager

any chance for a skype 4.0 sfs?
Wine is 32-bit application and requires 32-bit compatibility library. Skype 4.0 has "ads" in it, why do you want it? Most people I know stick with the old one and will probably stick to it until it stops working :D

As nooby said, please check out beta2 (though it doesn't address your above two problems, sorry) :D
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#223 Post by Anniekin »

Thanks for the responses,

I am using beta2 just posted the wrong thread : p

I got Skype 4 to work via sfs with the slacko 32bit libraries

If anyone wants I posted it @ http://dimensions-web.com/downloads/sky ... .7_600.sfs

It runs as user spot via su -c spot

let me know if there are any problems

someone tell me how to install proprietary ATI drivers (radeon) so that I can post that too?

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#224 Post by jamesbond »

Thank you Anniekin for the skype sfs, I will take a look.

For ATI (you mean the Catalyst driver? "radeon" driver is the open source driver and Fatdog comes with it already) - we'll release one for final if you can wait (won't be that long anymore from now).

Newer versions:
Fatdog 600 beta2 is here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79265
Fatdog 600 rc is here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79424
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#225 Post by Anniekin »

Hey James,

Skype 4 seems to be working well, haven't seen any ads yet, unlike in the Windows version

The new fatdog comes with the new kernel no-xorg.conf by default, what do I do to enable opengl to play windoze games :D

is this enough to have as xorg.conf?
Section "Device"
Driver "radeon"
EndSection

or do i need to put more than that?

glxgears works with my current config (no-xorg) as well as glxinfo indicating rendering is on, yet Guild Wars complains about 3dx / direct x

Directx 8 should be included in wine already, did you strip it?

Also unrelated but PCM audio channel is not present on my new acer aspire 722, do i have to add some package?

Window manager locks up alot on boot, not sure if it is because I plugged in a wireless mouse,

pls advise,

thanks

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#226 Post by jamesbond »

Anniekin wrote:Hey James,
Skype 4 seems to be working well, haven't seen any ads yet, unlike in the Windows version
Good to hear this!
The new fatdog comes with the new kernel no-xorg.conf by default, what do I do to enable opengl to play windoze games :D

is this enough to have as xorg.conf?
Section "Device"
Driver "radeon"
EndSection

or do i need to put more than that?

glxgears works with my current config (no-xorg) as well as glxinfo indicating rendering is on, yet Guild Wars complains about 3dx / direct x
Fatdog comes with full Xorg and Mesa OpenGL drivers (in other puppies usually called as "Xorg High" package). It provides native 3D facilities out of the box. Of course, if you need higher performance, you'll probably want the proprietary Catalyst driver.

But - I'm afraid windoze games are not supported properly in Fatdog. This is because Wine is 32-bit apps. Wine emulates DirectX using OpenGL, but being 32-bit apps it requires 32-bit OpenGL libraries - which are not in Fatdog and in all likelihood is not in the 32-bit libraries as well, sorry :( Your best bet is to run wine with Slacko, and install "Xorg High".
Also unrelated but PCM audio channel is not present on my new acer aspire 722, do i have to add some package?
Probably because your system is too new :) Anyway, run "Pdiag.sh" and upload the output to me, I'll see what I can do (no promises).
Window manager locks up alot on boot, not sure if it is because I plugged in a wireless mouse,
ImageWhat do you mean by "window manager"? When does the lock-up happens? I have wireless keyboard and mouse plugged at all times and don't get the lockups ....

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#227 Post by Anniekin »

Thanks James,

Pdiag info attached

I guess I need 'lib32-catalyst-utils'

What do I need to download and compile to get it?

I have a little experience compiling stuff from making pup4pentiums

pls advise,
thanks
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#228 Post by jamesbond »

Anniekin wrote:Thanks James,
Pdiag info attached
Your soundcard isn't detected :(
Either your card is too new; or your card need firmware. It's most likely the first one, unless you tell me that you can get other puppies to produce sound here.
Generally there isn't any solution to this other than waiting until alsa driver is updated (Fatdog already has the latest driver).
I guess I need 'lib32-catalyst-utils'
What do I need to download and compile to get it?
I have a little experience compiling stuff from making pup4pentiums
Probably not that one. You need the "catalyst-driver" or something like that; it's better if you get Slacko specific pets instead of the generic slackware packages. But beware: 32-bit packages will usually install to /usr/lib. In Fatdog, /usr/lib points to 64-bit packages, so a plain install will overwrite Fatdog's native library and your system will stop working. You need to install 32-bit packages to /lib32, /usr/lib32, and /usr/X11R7/lib32. You have to un-tar and copy the files over by hand.
If you do get it to work let me know :D

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#229 Post by Anniekin »

ok,

I dont have to compile anything right?

I'm getting that fatdog is slacko based

but the (much improved interface) package manager does not have the option to select slacko repositories like other puppy derivatives

so I will just try with the official slacko packages from ibiblio

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#230 Post by jamesbond »

Anniekin wrote:ok,
I dont have to compile anything right?
I don't think so.
I'm getting that fatdog is slacko based
No, Fatdog itself isn't based no Slacko. But the 32-bit compatibility libraries which is required for wine to work *is* based on Slacko, that's why I keep referring to Slacko here :)
but the (much improved interface) package manager does not have the option to select slacko repositories like other puppy derivatives
Yes, because all those packages won't work, unless you install the 32-bit compatibility library. Even then not all of them will work --- some just won't.
so I will just try with the official slacko packages from ibiblio
That's the idea! :D
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