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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 12:53    Post subject: NVIDIA
Subject description: getnvidia pet to install latest driver
 

Pemasu and others have come up with a great pet to install the latest NVIDIA driver. It would be great if this also works for Fatdog. Is it safe to try?

Cheers,
Jim
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:48    Post subject: Left Handed Mouse?
Subject description: Need a Mouse wizard
 

Kudos to Kirk and James Bond on the latest Fatdog. Fatdog -521 has been a favorite of mine ever since it came out.

I tried running 600a2 beta in memory and everything works except for the missing mouse keyboard wizard. A minor complaint unless you are left handed.
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Gobbi

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 17:34    Post subject:  

Hi , everybody ! Very Happy

I started using Fatdog with 521 and I was pleased because is fast , runs in RAM and it's portable and made a custom version Very Happy , where I managed , among other things , to make it start from a flash drive directly onto hdmi audio since I'm using a TV as monitor over an hdmi cable. Later I saw that instead of reboot I could simply use RestartX , to switch the sound cards from Multiple Sound Card Wizard .
The fact is I wanted to do it without making a save file for not increasing the custom version .

Now , Fatdog 600 evolves and I gave it some tries . The wpa supplicant does not work , I'm using Network Manager so it's fine. On Youtube , on both Seamonkey and Firefox the videos were running like FastForward with no sound at all , I checked up Flash Player properties and updated it , and did the same for the browsers : now works fine.

I can't pass this one : After I switch the sound cards from Multiple Sound Card Wizard and unmute the digital channel from AlsaMixer , using RestartX doesn't make it work . No sound over HDMI Exclamation
Is there any Idea way doing it without making a save file and reboot ???

My system :

-Computer-
Processor : 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
Memory : 8165MB (268MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Fatdog64 [bb155f4388]
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue Jun 19 22:46:15 2012
-Display-
Resolution : 1360x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on AMD JUNIPER
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
-Input Devices-
Power Button
Power Button
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
PC Speaker

Kernel Modules
--------------

-Loaded Modules-
snd_pcm_oss : PCM OSS emulation for ALSA.
snd_seq_dummy : ALSA sequencer MIDI-through client
snd_seq_oss : OSS-compatible sequencer module
snd_seq_midi_event : MIDI byte <-> sequencer event coder
snd_seq : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture sequencer.
snd_seq_device : ALSA sequencer device management
snd_mixer_oss : Mixer OSS emulation for ALSA.
snd_hda_codec_hdmi : HDMI HD-audio codec
joydev : Joystick device interfaces
rtl8187 : RTL8187/RTL8187B USB wireless driver
mac80211 : IEEE 802.11 subsystem
cfg80211 : wireless configuration support
rfkill : RF switch support
eeprom_93cx6 : EEPROM 93cx6 chip driver
ppdev
parport_pc : PC-style parallel port driver
parport
snd_hda_codec_realtek : Realtek HD-audio codec
wmi : ACPI-WMI Mapping Driver
radeon : ATI Radeon
snd_hda_intel : Intel HDA driver
r8169 : RealTek RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver
snd_hda_codec : HDA codec core
ttm : TTM memory manager subsystem (for DRM device)
mii : MII hardware support library
snd_pcm : Midlevel PCM code for ALSA.
drm_kms_helper : DRM KMS helper
k10temp : AMD Family 10h+ CPU core temperature monitor
snd_timer : ALSA timer interface

snd : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture driver for soundcards.
cfbimgblt : Generic software accelerated imaging drawing
soundcore : Core sound module

snd_page_alloc : Memory allocator for ALSA system.


Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5
GPU : Radeon HD 5770

Thank's in advance for any kind of answer .

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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 17:50    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
... I mean if 99% love FireFox then why...
Hi Nooby,

You may not know this, but SM (really Mozilla) is the follow-on to the Netscape contribution to the browser community.

The reason so many still use it is that, like Netscape, it is a full-featured advance subsystem....not just a browser. It, to date, still maintains fidelity with Firefox, Thunderbird, etc which are the components of SM broken up and supported as separate packages.

The weight of SM is not that extravagant for the functionality it provides the Puppy development community and the users. Thus, it promotes the lightweight system and the subsystem integration for a great OOTB experience.

I am/have been a user of Netscape, Mozilla, SM and FF for as long as I can remember when I became befuddled with Microsoft's IE. And, I love the fact that the SM developers pride themselves with the speed, size, and integration that they provide all who want to use SM.

As a FF and Thunderbird user as well, you might want to look at those items which provide fidelity with SM such that you can easily pull/push settings, bookmarks, and etc in both directions.

Thus the decision by any developer to stay consistent with Barry's view of an small RAM-based integrated distro displays that integration through its design for user understanding and use. While also, the Puppy developers have made constant strides to insure we have a one of the widest selections of browser anywhere; namely, IRON, Chrome, Opera, Dillo, Tor, Midori, etc.

I don't encourage anyone follow my behavior, but, I do use 4 different browsers because of some unique differences where on certain sites things work and render differently to the browser's benefit. I have come to understand this and have each browser bookmarked accordingly.

This post is just my observations that I have seen in the community since joining. In no way am I speaking for any developer or user.

But, hoping this could be some understanding for our benefit.


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Gobbi

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 22:42    Post subject:  

The standard ISO works fine when using the Analog Audio , that is mobo's audio .
Both of the problems I've noticed , happen only when I switch the sound card to use hdmi , that is I have no sound and Flash Player on the browser works like a FLASH .
I think it's the GPU that does not go along very well with Fatdog 600b1 . Actually on FD 521 the ati-catalyst pet was installed .
Maybe a similar pet for FD 600 could be on the way ?
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capicoso

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 23:45    Post subject:  

hey. There's a pet package in the 600 repository named linux_rt-3.4.2-rt10.pet . Is that a real time kernel patch? Or what is it?
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 01:29    Post subject:  

Gobbi wrote:
The standard ISO works fine when using the Analog Audio , that is mobo's audio .
Both of the problems I've noticed , happen only when I switch the sound card to use hdmi , that is I have no sound and Flash Player on the browser works like a FLASH .
I think it's the GPU that does not go along very well with Fatdog 600b1 . Actually on FD 521 the ati-catalyst pet was installed .
Maybe a similar pet for FD 600 could be on the way ?


Gobbi, I don't have/use HDMI myself so I can't really test that, but kirk may be able to help. I think he has similar setup.

The video driver pets will come when we finalise the kernel for final (that could come during the final beta or final release-candidate depending on how stable the release is). It is confusing and isn't worth the confusion to release the drivers now when we still change kernels with every release --- because these drivers are tied tightly to kernel version.

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 01:30    Post subject:  

capicoso wrote:
hey. There's a pet package in the 600 repository named linux_rt-3.4.2-rt10.pet . Is that a real time kernel patch?
Yes Cool

EDIT: It is the kernel, patched with real-time patch. Just install and enjoy. Note: rt kernel are usually less stable than standard kernel unless you know how to tweak them.

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 01:31    Post subject: Re: NVIDIA
Subject description: getnvidia pet to install latest driver
 

Jim1911 wrote:
Pemasu and others have come up with a great pet to install the latest NVIDIA driver. It would be great if this also works for Fatdog. Is it safe to try?

Cheers,
Jim

Just use a special savefile for testing and don't use your regular ones, so if you screw up you can always restore Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 01:32    Post subject: Re: Left Handed Mouse?
Subject description: Need a Mouse wizard
 

oldroy wrote:
Kudos to Kirk and James Bond on the latest Fatdog. Fatdog -521 has been a favorite of mine ever since it came out.

I tried running 600a2 beta in memory and everything works except for the missing mouse keyboard wizard. A minor complaint unless you are left handed.

kirk's making one at the moment to swap mouse buttons, it will be in the next release. Thanks for the feedback.

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 01:43    Post subject:  

JIm

I took a look at the code in shinobar's and pemasu's nvidia installer and it doesn't look too good for fatdog I'm afraid. For a start there's a 32 bit binary included so you'd need those libs. Also there is a lot of woof specific code in there, fine for slacko, upup, wary, racy and exprimo, will likely fall down in fatdog.

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nooby

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 02:52    Post subject:  

Guys, hope you can bear with a naive noob.

All this trouble with 64Bit???

Would it be very demanding to make a 32-bit version
and then you would have plenty of time to get the 64 bit
version totally or absolutely compatible with all drivers
and such complications?

Having a multiuser Puppy that just works is a sensation.
So why add the complexity of 64-bit compatibility from Scratch?

I "vote for" to have both 32-bit and 64-bit and most being used to
32-bit do look for that and the enthusiasts have the patience to
wait for the 64-bit to come a bit later? Only my ignorant rant.

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Here is one reason I don't like SeaMonkey. AutoUpdate
and it remember too much even when one tells it to delete history.

Read here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=635331#635331

Quote/
For some years now I've had Seamonkey set to delete browsing history when shutting down, as well as most other residues of online activity.

So I was dumbfounded when I happened to open the tab:

Tools/Data Manager

to see a list of domains that seems to include most, if not all, of the sites I've visited over the past several years!

At the bottom of the page I see a "remove" tab, but it's greyed out.

What use is clearing your history if every domain you've visited is shown and can't be removed?

Do other browsers have this same function?
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 06:52    Post subject:  

@smokey01: Did you get your Samsung ML-1660 working? Which of the two Samsung driver packages in the repo did you use?
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 09:25    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
@smokey01: Did you get your Samsung ML-1660 working? Which of the two Samsung driver packages in the repo did you use?


I haven't tried either yet, maybe tomorrow night.

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 09:57    Post subject:  

Quote:
RestartX doesn't make it work . No sound over HDMI Exclamation
Is there any Idea way doing it without making a save file and reboot


That's due to a change in the ATI kernel module. Some cards have problems with sound over HDMI, so they disabled it by default. You can put radeon.audio=1 on the kernel boot line to enable it. The sound card wizard does something similar, but you would need a savefile for that to work.

Quote:
I tried running 600a2 beta in memory and everything works except for the missing mouse keyboard wizard. A minor complaint unless you are left handed.


I've modified pupx to support that. it will be in the next release. Until then you can open a terminal and type:

Code:
 xmodmap -e "pointer = 3 2 1"
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