Fatdog64-600 alpha2

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01micko · #161 Post by **01micko** » Tue 29 May 2012, 03:59

Hi Jim

gtkdialog is at version 0.7.20 in FatDog so the newer mods I have made to jwm-config won't work. It's up to kirk and jamesbond whether they update gtkdialog, so for now I'll leave it alone.

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kirk and jamesbond

Jemimah developed a 2 patches for glib .. adds support for help with apps like geany, abiword and gnumeric and also adds the currently mounted drives to any gtk filebrowser widget. Just FYI, patch HERE

Cheers

jamesbond · #162 Post by **jamesbond** » Tue 29 May 2012, 04:56

01micko wrote:Hi Jim

gtkdialog is at version 0.7.20 in FatDog so the newer mods I have made to jwm-config won't work. It's up to kirk and jamesbond whether they update gtkdialog, so for now I'll leave it alone.

Mick, thanks for the info. 600a2 actually (or finally! depending on how you see it) has gtkdialog4 there (0.8.0), but it is not the default. Default is still gtkdialog3 as many scripts in Fatdog have not been updated for gtkdialog4. Before I dig in and look around, just one question: is it non-root clean? (ie doesn't try to write to /root (use $HOME instead), and don't assume it can overwrite stuff in /etc /var etc (only in $HOME or /tmp)?

Jemimah developed a 2 patches for glib .. adds support for help with apps like geany, abiword and gnumeric and also adds the currently mounted drives to any gtk filebrowser widget. Just FYI, patch HERE

Thanks, I have been wondering where to find these patches. I have plans to do the first one when GTK is re-compiled; I wouldn't be able to find the 2nd one myself ... but I'll leave it to kirk whether he wants to rebuild GTK

cheers!

Billtoo · #163 Post by **Billtoo** » Tue 29 May 2012, 05:39

Openbox + Icewm - Can't get one or the other but this is okay too

Edit: Make that Icewm + Lxpanel - too much fun today!

01micko · #164 Post by **01micko** » Tue 29 May 2012, 11:19

jamesbond wrote:Mick, thanks for the info. 600a2 actually (or finally! depending on how you see it) has gtkdialog4 there (0.8.0), but it is not the default. Default is still gtkdialog3 as many scripts in Fatdog have not been updated for gtkdialog4. Before I dig in and look around, just one question: is it non-root clean? (ie doesn't try to write to /root (use $HOME instead), and don't assume it can overwrite stuff in /etc /var etc (only in $HOME or /tmp)?

Oh dear! (my lack of finding gtkdialog-0.8.0

)
Oh well!

Here (attached) is an updated jwm-config for FatDog. This is for testing, contains no binaries, no hard coding to /root, only hard coding is the original stuff (thought-journey and plinej) where puppy believed it wanted to be root forever! (Nice notion but some are deterred.)

The pet adds a couple of extra themes and changes the menu button a little.

Cheers!

Jim1911 · #165 Post by **Jim1911** » Tue 29 May 2012, 15:21

Hi kirk and jamesbond,

Thanks for keeping the JWM desktop.

Mick's jwmconfig2-120529-fatdog.pet works good. Thanks Mick. It will be a fine addition. I used it to add a couple of radky's fine little applications to the panel. PupControl and PupShutdown.

Cheers,
Jim

Jim1911 · #166 Post by **Jim1911** » Tue 29 May 2012, 17:24

I downloaded install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64,tar,gz but can't get flash to work. I placed libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib64, is that correct? I believe that everything that goes in the /usr/ directory is correct.

Thanks,
Jim

Billtoo · #167 Post by **Billtoo** » Tue 29 May 2012, 17:54

Jim1911 wrote:I downloaded install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64,tar,gz but can't get flash to work. I placed libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib64, is that correct? I believe that everything that goes in the /usr/ directory is correct.

Thanks,
Jim

Mine is in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

Edit: It's also in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins

Jim1911 · #168 Post by **Jim1911** » Tue 29 May 2012, 20:57

Billtoo wrote: Mine is in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

Edit: It's also in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins

Thanks!

jamesbond · #169 Post by **jamesbond** » Tue 29 May 2012, 23:00

Jim1911 wrote:Hi kirk and jamesbond,

Thanks for keeping the JWM desktop.

Mick's jwmconfig2-120529-fatdog.pet works good. Thanks Mick. It will be a fine addition. I used it to add a couple of radky's fine little applications to the panel. PupControl and PupShutdown.

Cheers,
Jim

Mick and Jim,

Thank you for the pet and for testing it. I will put this pet into main sfs - experimental beats non-working versions

cheers!

Billtoo · #170 Post by **Billtoo** » Wed 30 May 2012, 04:00

Here's Audacious 3.2.3, a music player with plugins such as extra
stero etc.

jamesbond · #171 Post by **jamesbond** » Wed 30 May 2012, 05:07

Billtoo wrote:Here's Audacious 3.2.3, a music player with plugins such as extra
stero etc.

It is now in the pet repo. Thanks Bill.

01micko · #172 Post by **01micko** » Wed 30 May 2012, 05:46

I hacked Nathan's wallpaper setter awhile ago to work with gtkdialog4, it almost worked perfectly with FatDog ootb, had to add a default tag to the <chooser> widget so it would default to /usr/share/backgrounds.

While on images, gimp is very nice to have, but when you want to just view a bunch of images in a directory it's a bit of a pain

. Can you link the run action for images_jpg to the defaultimageviewer please? Or not

.EDIT: Ahhh... I see it was done yesterday

Made a wallpaper too, gzipped to preserve.

Cheers

PS: kirk, who made the fatdog logo? It's great work!

sunburnt · #173 Post by **sunburnt** » Wed 30 May 2012, 06:43

SFS files!!! Make SFS files!!! They don`t take up Save file space...

Hi Kirk and jamesbond; I wondered if FatDog was made from Ubuntu Lucid?

I`m looking for a stripped down bare-bones from Ubuntu Lucid for compatibility with Ubuntu`s file repository.
Good for making SFS files! And also a distro. that doesn`t need remastering to remove and "include" apps.

64 bit is the way to go anymore, I applaud dumping Linux`s legacy cruft ( Lots...).

smokey01 · #174 Post by **smokey01** » Wed 30 May 2012, 08:03

sunburnt, have a look at what jemimah has done with Saluki. Custom Builder is great.

I would like to see something like this in all Puppies.

sunburnt wrote:SFS files!!! Make SFS files!!! They don`t take up Save file space...

Hi Kirk and jamesbond; I wondered if FatDog was made from Ubuntu Lucid?

I`m looking for a stripped down bare-bones from Ubuntu Lucid for compatibility with Ubuntu`s file repository.
Good for making SFS files! And also a distro. that doesn`t need remastering to remove and "include" apps.

64 bit is the way to go anymore, I applaud dumping Linux`s legacy cruft ( Lots...).

01micko · #175 Post by **01micko** » Wed 30 May 2012, 11:50

A small battle for me to get sound working.

My mobo sound is fried. I have a behringer usb device which usually shows up, uses the snd_usb_audio module which wouldn't load. I found the clue in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf and removed the line:

options snd-usb-audio index=-2alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

as there is another line further up:

options snd-usb-audio index=-2

Deleted /etc/asound.conf, rebooted, and card was found by the Multiple-card-wizard, rebooted, all good

BTW, lspci and lsusb only output vendorID:productID, though I notice the databases are there. Maybe need new pci-utils/usb-utils?

kirk · #176 Post by **kirk** » Wed 30 May 2012, 16:50

Thanks for the info Mick, might need to re-think modrpobe.d/alsa.conf. The lspci and lsusb problem is due to busybox apps hiding the real ones. That will be fixed in the next release.

gcmartin · #177 Post by **gcmartin** » Wed 30 May 2012, 23:30

Double post - unknown error

gcmartin · #178 Post by **gcmartin** » Wed 30 May 2012, 23:33

jamesbond wrote:
gcmartin wrote:FATDOG Remaster tool is rather expressive and straight forward.
Ran the remaster tool. It created a "pristine" system that did NOT have the session changes made. Local changes thus far do NOT exist in Remaster
Sorry I don't get what you mean - so did the remaster tool work or didn't work for you?

EDIT: I just tested - all my changes are saved in the remaster. What I should probably do is to add options to edit isolinux.cfg before the remaster ISO is created. ...

Thank @JamesBond

To clarify:

Booted a Pristine FATDOG6.0a2 from multi-session DVD.
Installed several PETs via PPM
Copied several personal programs to /root/my-applications/bin
Tested system to insure the several added components worked
Satisfied, I wanted to test the new Remaster tool provided
The Remaster tool followed thru to completion.
But, when the ISO when booted, it boots Pristine with none of the changes

I expected all PPM things to be included, but could not find any in the menus.
Note: This system was never re-booted prior to running remaster tool.

Questions - What can I do to help?

Is there a step missing?
Should I capture screens post this for review?
Should I post the ISO somewhere where it can be reviewed?
Should I wait for next release?

Hope this helps

jamesbond · #179 Post by **jamesbond** » Thu 31 May 2012, 00:04

01micko wrote:I hacked Nathan's wallpaper setter awhile ago to work with gtkdialog4, it almost worked perfectly with FatDog ootb, had to add a default tag to the <chooser> widget so it would default to /usr/share/backgrounds.

Thanks Mick, can you roughly tell me the difference? So that I can decide whether this will go to the main iso or to the pet repo. The wallpaper setter in 600a2 is the same one from 500 days, perhaps the same one back to puppy4 days

(except for the addition of the <default> line - apparently something changes in GTK?)

While on images, gimp is very nice to have, but when you want to just view a bunch of images in a directory it's a bit of a pain . Can you link the run action for images_jpg to the defaultimageviewer please? Or not .EDIT: Ahhh... I see it was done yesterday

Made a wallpaper too, gzipped to preserve.

Let me see if I can get your wallpaper to work somewhere ... hmm....

PS: kirk, who made the fatdog logo? It's great work!

I remember the logo came from one of the forum members, though I browsed the entire 70 pages of "puppy wallpapers" thread but can't find it. I haven't browsed the 135 pages of "my puppy is more gorgeous than yours" ...

jamesbond · #180 Post by **jamesbond** » Thu 31 May 2012, 00:31

01micko wrote:A small battle for me to get sound working.

My mobo sound is fried. I have a behringer usb device which usually shows up, uses the snd_usb_audio module which wouldn't load. I found the clue in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf and removed the line:

options snd-usb-audio index=-2alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

This line is obviously wrong, it should be

Code: Select all

options snd-usb-audio index=-2
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

We'll fix it for next release.

as there is another line further up:

options snd-usb-audio index=-2

This tells snd-usb-audio to not to use index 0 (=default sound device) but use index from 1 onwards.

All in all, the above should not prevent your usb device from working - it only tells your behringer not to be the default soundcard. Then you could use the multiple soundcard wizard for that. Do you mind trying with no savefile whether that is the case?

Deleted /etc/asound.conf, rebooted, and card was found by the Multiple-card-wizard, rebooted, all good

/etc/asound.conf should not exist by default, it only exists if you use multiple soundcard wizard or alsa-equaliser before. Note that alsa-equal and multiple soundcard wizard are mutually exclusive

We don't allow usb device to be the default sound device because some usb device only implements subset of audio functions (e.g my usb midi controller cannot play digital audio); if the usb device accidentally overtake the motherboard audio, there will be no sound coming from the usb device.

But for your case, you can make the behringer to be the default sound card by reversing the role in alsa.conf:
options snd-hda-intel index=-2
options snd-usb-audio index=0

BTW, lspci and lsusb only output vendorID:productID, though I notice the databases are there. Maybe need new pci-utils/usb-utils?

kirk fixed this

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