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How to update/upgrade Puppy?
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Rodger

Joined: 17 May 2012
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PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012, 22:26    Post subject:  How to update/upgrade Puppy?  

Hello all.

I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of some detailed, step by step instructions on doing updates and upgrades without burning a new disk. I'm sure it's been discussed somewhere, but I can't seem to find it.

I'm coming from Ubuntu and it seems things are a bit different in this neck of the woods.

I currently have Wary 5.2.2 installed (frugal) on my hard drive.

Thanks in advance.
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cthisbear

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
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Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012, 03:45    Post subject:  

Welcome to Puppy Rodger .

We don't usually do upgrades.....BUT

some releases have an upgrade fix...can't remember the name.

Keep a copy of your save file....in another location...4 backup.

Others will advise you soon...
I have never bothered myself.

I think Slacko....Saluki...and Lucid offer it.

So hang in here...and advise us of your hardware specs.

Thanks mate....Chris.
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Burn_IT

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Location: Tamworth UK

PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012, 09:50    Post subject:  

I burn the CD, but if you mount the ISO as a CD...... and then install over the top of my existing one. It does the update automatically.
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bigpup


Joined: 11 Oct 2009
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Location: Charleston S.C. USA

PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012, 12:13    Post subject:  

Ways to install Puppy and how to upgrade information is given here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60302

If your are asking about upgrading programs, bug fixes, improvements in general to a version of Puppy you are using. That depends on the version of Puppy you have. Most developers, of a version of Puppy, make improvements by releasing a new version or an instant update for a version.

Example:
Lucid Puppy
Lucid Puppy 5.0 -at first release.
Lucid Puppy 5.2.8.005 -latest release.
http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70855&sid=549584502402212856f788edc828c4f0

There is no auto update in Puppy like other OS's.
Updating is a manual operation in Puppy. You find it, download, and install.

Updating individual programs:
Additional Software (Pets N' Stuff) section of this forum
find the programs topic.
See if newer version is posted.
Download and install.

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Rodger

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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 11:58    Post subject:  

Thanks for your responses. They've been helpful but not quite what I was looking for. Maybe some more information is in order.

My computer is currently set up as a dual boot between Windows XP and an old version of Ubuntu.

I have a frugal installation of Wary 5.2.2 on the Ubuntu partition. I boot into puppy by leaving the live cd in the drive. If I didn't, GRUB would only offer XP and Ubuntu. I've had some issues with other distros not allowing me to access XP which I unfortunately still need for a couple things. Because of this, I don't really want to mess around with GRUB and that is why I just leave the live cd in the drive all the time.

My burner will not burn image discs. I had to take the iso to a computer repair store to get the live cd I'm using.

Bigpup: the first link you gave had a lot of useful information and I think a method to do what I want to do but it was a bit over my head and involved altering the bootloader which I'm not currently comfortable doing.

burn_IT: that sounds like what I'm trying to do but I need more detail.

I downloaded the iso for wary 5.3.

Is there a way to just move the three core files to the hard drive where my current ones are installed?

Can I do this while running puppy?

Will it even work if I'm booting from a cd of an older version?

Basically I want to be able to update my system (bug fixes, etc.) without buring a new cd and without altering the bootloader.

Is this possible for someone with very limited knowledge or should I not bother and just use the version I have and leave well enough alone?

Sorry to be difficult. Hope this makes sense. Thanks again.
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ravensrest


Joined: 22 Feb 2008
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Location: Hood Canal, WA

PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 14:52    Post subject:  

When I am upgrading, I typically mount the new iso by double clicking its name. Then, as you suggest, copy the initrd.gz, vmlinuz, and puppy_XXX.sfs to the desired directory. Make sure GRUB can find the files by changing the menu.lst file if necessary.

When you boot, the new Puppy should ask you if your want to upgrade your personalfile.3fs. I always save copies of all four files first in case things go awry.

BS
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nooby

Joined: 29 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 15:07    Post subject:  

It is wise to save a copy of the savefile just in case the update goes wrong.

But ideally you should do the saving from puppy booted with pfix=ram
so the savefile does not go corrupt if puppy autosave while the copy is made.

Ubuntu maybe can save a copy of the puppy save file if you are familiar with doing such.

In puppy you open two windows of ROX file manager and click on the downloaded puppy iso and that opens it up and you drag and drop a copy
of initrd.gz and vmlinuz and waryxxx.sfs to the new subdir where you
want to test if the upgrade goes well. You can also move the copy to that
subdirectory.

You should be able to add an entry in the Ms Win boot but I am not good
at describing how to do it. Depends also on if it is WinXP or WinVista or Win7
they have different files one need to find and do the manual edit.

Others can describe how to.

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