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Never used it, since 90s on dial-up, but this site appears to get you started on FreeNet use in Linux/Unix.

gcmartin wrote:Never used it, since 90s on dial-up, but this site appears to get you started on FreeNet use in Linux/Unix.

Thanks. I should note that you have to use spot.

I like Jdiskreport and Trupax
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/
https://copy.com/ReYcdvHIJ6oqJvdm
https://www.coderslagoon.com/
https://copy.com/1AbhOWVOx3x6PVvb

JDK as a (big) package if anybody needs it.

https://yadi.sk/d/5aP6BYgSoJ5Hp

The above link is the download location for this package for Puppy
Now hosted at Yandex Disk
Page may appear in Russian but there is a translate button

This is character map I really like and use a lot.

It is GPL3 so I think that means I can post it here and host it.

Java Application: CharMap
Written by: Keith Fenske, http://www.psc-consulting.ca/fenske/
First version: Monday, 19 May 2008
Document revised: Saturday, 13 February 2010
Copyright © 2008 by Keith Fenske. Released under the GNU General Public License (GPL).

and I hosted on my google drive site at

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=down ... kZZaVcyQXc

Make a folder for the contents of the zip (as it has no master folder), unpack the files there and click the CharMap4.jar file and it should open the GUI.

I have an old circa 2004 computer (which as I footnote ROCKS! With Puppy! Thanks, Everyone for making that possible!) and on it it takes about 5-10s to open (with JRE 1.

It works great and has a puppyistic interface - clean, straightforward, and does only what I want it to.

-Ciao!

nilsonmorales wrote:I like Jdiskreport and Trupax
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/
https://copy.com/ReYcdvHIJ6oqJvdm

this just came in very handy .... i needed to find any empty directories in a group of 1400

did the job

Francophone, Musher0 a listé sa première cipaille sur le forum francophone ici, here french spoken topic by Musher0
List available in french forum for french citizen hardly understanding shakespeare language.
Jampa tested with a little help from Joe cocker

Hi All,

Scanning the Graphics section I ran across LightZone which looked like an App worth adding. Reading the threads about LightZone indicated that to run it requires JRE (Java Runtime Environment). I lump (perhaps wrongly) such underlying applications as "frameworks". To run a Windows exe in Linux, requires Wine; some apps require python; others QT. In the absence of such underlying structures, an app which depends on their presence just hangs in mid-air, unconnected to the operating system. Underlying structure = framework. Maybe not the best choice of words.

Reading the LightZone thread, and following its links lead me to this thread on which Forum Members have graciously listed apps which they thought worthwhile together with links to sites were such apps could be obtained. Two attracted my attention, and I downloaded them. They arrived in the form of "jar"s.

In another "Framework" with which I have some experience, Wine, its loading as an SFS or installation of a pet usually provides the mechanism for calling applications which are to be run under it. Some "Wines" create a separate menu category so that any application you install using it will appear under that category. Portable-Wine does something like that: it creates a Menu entry under System named "Wine Windows Program Loader". Clicking that entry opens a "Window" to portable-wines false Drive_C/Program Files displaying all the EXE files. Selecting one opens the program. Even in the absence of Menu Entries, browsing to the false Drive_C/Program Files and clicking an executable [if the file-manager has received proper instructions] opens the program. Such EXE files can be dragged to the desktop, or called from a manually built application consisting of a bash script and desktop file.

AFAIK, QT and python aren't like wine. The applications which require those "frameworks" must provide their own desktop-files/Menu entries. Installation creates menu entries which, in the absence of their required "framework" just don't run.

So the question: How does the user of Linux call upon his OS to "execute" a "jar"? Is this like Wine, so that loading a JRE SFS, or installing a JRE pet creates a mechanism for calling the application distributed as a Jar? Or like python/Qt where the application must contain its own desktop-file/Menu entry?

Granted, java applications are intended to be "platform" independent. Being able to run under both Windows and Linux, if the requisite JRE is present, is one thing. Generating a Menu entry is another. Windows does it one way. Puppy LInux another. Many portable xp programs run fine under Wine: but if you want a Menu entry, you have to know how to create one. What's the situation with jars when their authors assume they would be run under Windows.

Second dumb question. How compatible in practice is backward compatibility? I note that JREs continue to evolve, and that several JRE-SFSes are available, such as jre1.7.0_65_5.7.0.sfs and JRE8u45Lin-i586.sfs.

I understand "backward compatibility" means that in theory applications which ran under an earlier version will also run under a later version. With Wine, that has been the case. Later versions almost always mean improvements --such as that more XP applications will run, or run more efficiently-- without loss of the ability to run applications which ran under earlier versions. Consequently, it is generally good practice to use the most recent "stable" version of Wine.

Does JRE have a comparable condition?

Thanks in advance.

mikesLr

P.S. I've avoided JAVA/JRE as the impression I had was that their cross-platform compatibility also presented security concerns. To what extent is that valid? Over-blown? Whatever?

Hello @Mikeslr. You are very reasonable accurate in your "framework" references.

To run any .jar in ANY OS/smartPhone/etc, all that is required is that the OS has a JAVA installed.

So for example, if you have JRE1.8.xx installed, depending on the OS, you merely click the *.jar file in a filemanager and it will run.

In my past use of PUPPY Linux with a JAVA installed, in a terminal window I typewhere some.jar is the pathname of the java app you want to run.

Here's an example that just about every PUP admin would do, assuming they have a JAVA installed. It add an intuitive system utility to show all of the PCs and devices currently connected to your LAN:

1. Go to AngryIP.org
2. download a DEB for your PC (ie. 32/64 bit)
3. click it to install. It will put an Menu>Network icon in your system
4. click the icon

Hope this is helpful in showing that many JAVA developers are also Linux aware to make use of their tools easy to install and work within our systems.

Hi gcmartin,

Thanks for the information. Very helpful.

mikesLr

@Rerwin has put together a VERY complete JAVA PET which brings consistency to ALL PUP distros, no matter their base for building the PUP or the CPU the distro runs on (32/64bit). See the bottom on this thread's Opening Post.

The practical implication is that it places the selection in the hands of the user and it is positioned in the PUP's Menu for use in install or upgrade.

Excellent approach for PUP developers (the PET carries NO discernible weight to their ISO) and user's alike. This approach means nothing happens with JAVA in the user system until the user decides and starts it via the System's Menu.

Hope this is helpful

Open "java -jar xxxxxx.jar' is the command i use (thanks to Musher0)
Lalaclick :
Features:
* Unique Playlist Philosophy
* Smart Zapping
* Easy File Copying
* Similar Artist/Genre Playlists
* Slideshow, Lyrics, ..
* Minimalism in Layout and Usage
* Research Support
* ..and more..

GCMartin merci for this topic, its'what we need.
A summary of java applis.
Java applis are nore not better than others.
The advantage : you store them on your Windows partition. Puppy Linux only need the Jre up do date and can keep its light weight... Windows as the stuff, Puppy is served quite free of MBs
Ejemplo : makagiga can be run by my Windows 7, by Wine, and by JRE (JRE is much betteer than Wine)
What is Makagiga ? A brand new ToDoList that needs JRE8
Its for fun, Puppy has Osmo as default. But French, and chinese too like a lot to change how to reach a function, to change meals in the menu.
Surtout moi. You eat Osmo, you will taste Makagiga, like a gourmet.
Take a glance here

New java version is available on the ASRI édu forum (32-bit and 64-bit package) :

• Java 1.8u77 (PET)
  • http://forum.asri-education.org/viewtop ... f=39&t=313

Many apps are running on Java :

• Freemind (or Freeplane) a mind mapper
  • http://forum.asri-education.org/viewtop ... f=29&t=366
  Geotortue an implementation of a computing environment called Logo
  • http://forum.asri-education.org/viewtop ... f=28&t=567
  GEONExT a dynamic mathematics software
  • http://forum.asri-education.org/viewtop ... f=28&t=295
  JClic an educative application to make exercices
  • http://forum.asri-education.org/viewtop ... f=28&t=664

Jukes or Jajuk, we shall debate in french with my disc jockey in gâtineau, Canada.

Topic Jdiskreport here
Gracias Senor Morales. Su applicaccion es de mucho interest
(your Jdisdiskreport is of great interest)

take a glance at this topic 2010

Ancestris is a java application for genealogy. Easy to add brothers and sisters

a nice alternative to google maps http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cruiser

Jampa in 'unsorted' section has a feed back by a cabin passenger of Puppy Airlines Take on here
Seven Years after.. English frigthens my French colleagues, But people native from UK should post without problem ere. Perhaps Puppy Users don't like listening music on a computer, and prefer burning CDs. I don't know.

not sure if this was listed. It's a simple unzip, no installation, portable start menu with a lot of nice .jar programs sorted by category.

Just unzip to folder and run java -jar pjl.jar


(116.4 MB)

Description

PJL - Free Cross-Platform Portable Java Launcher for executable files = jar, exe, etc. Same as Win Portable Start Menu and other launcher programs. Useful thing for USB and others. Simple and intuitive GUI - Graphical User Interface. Using SwiXML excellent framework.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/pjl/