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Medion P7624 laptop, low price, 550€ (feb2012) my battery is already out !

With Slacko, the only problem I had was resizing pupsave (Slacko 5.3.3). I dont use printer because of paper and accessories cost. I did printage at work ! So this version fit my needs. Firefox 3.6.28 is a little bit weak for uploading pictures on Facebook, but not sure i must use another browser. Firefox 12 it the right version for my usage, like this thin Slacko.
I am on test... Namoroka has no updates. Hum.... strange.

Micko; I was curious about Slacko`s package compatibility with Slackware.
Does it have Slackware`s PM.?
Or, is it`s PM capable of using at least most of the Slackware packages directly.?

Actually this version isn't bad with slackware compatibility. It's before BK done his "improvements" to PPM for debian/ubuntu based pups which now causes double dipping for deps. It's a problem with all pups at the moment as is being worked over now.

So Slackware`s PM is not in Slacko.

# Have you tried using Slackware`s PM instead of Puppy`s hobbled one.?

Seems like it might be a really good time to make a break from the past...
If it can work for 90% or so of the Slackware packages then it`s an enormous win.!
A stable repository of apps maintained by competent people. Still need to build some apps.
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I've remastered 01micko's Thin Slacko to thin it down even more.

This version is stripped of most things, no abiwork, gnumeric, geany ... etc. Mostly just a gui and a shell script in the HOME directory that wget's the latest Firefox (currently version 28.0). Pet/SFS etc functions however are still included. I also dropped gnome-mplayer back in again as without that firefox wouldn't load.

Predominately intended as a ram only puppy version for online banking purposes. i.e. DON'T create a savefile.

Boot from CD/DVD, activate firewall, activate network, then run the script in the home directory to automatically download Firefox. (Currently it both downloads latest Firefox and also creates a SFS of that, but its the downloaded firefox that should be run i.e. in something like ~/firefox28/opt/firefox). I snitched that code (in sfs-firefox.sh) but subsequently lost the link and the author didn't include their name in the script header. I'll attribute to them once I refind where I got the code from). BIG THX obviously goes out to 00micko for slacko_5.3.3t from which this was remastered.

Concept being that a factory fresh operating system/GUI loaded into clean memory (i.e. assumes you power recycled before booting), into which the latest firefox is downloaded/installed, all running in ram, before directly visiting your bank web site (no where else before or after, don't install any add-ons (or flash) etc).

First cut web pages - spelling/grammatical errors/mistakes et al. http://tinyurl.com/o7xell5 which I'll be correcting, revising and extending (user guide etc) going forward.

UPDATE (April 2014) : Later revised ISO (V2.04) now dowloadable via http://tinyurl.com/p6qrpzt

92.9MB ISO

Changes in revised edition :

Wallpaper - whilst previous was posted as being 'free' I couldn't verify such and a bit iffy whether that's right or not, so changed to be sure.

Made windows opaque, so filled in whilst moving rather than rectangular box (making them opaque seems to let mplayer run better whilst moving/resizing).

Removed display of screen coordinates whilst moving windows.

More distinguished startup, shutdown and trash sounds

Moved drive icons to be slightly higher up - because previously when tray was set to tallest the drive titles were partially hidden.

JWM and GTK themes changed to be more aligned with each other.

Tray set to max size and added xvkbd, magnifier and calculator to the tray (by default its a UK keyboard layout, and has to be manually configured at present for other layouts (a simple matter of overwriting the XVkbd file in /etc/X11/apps_with that of the Xvkbd-country file for whatever country keyboard is desired)).

Extended download directory to also include a range of SFS's and PET's, such as Skype, TeamView, Audacity, Blender, OpenShot, xvidcap, Virtual Machine, Wine, Samba, JRE, GIMP, Geany, Flash, NVIDIA driver, Messa, Libre Office, Kernel Sources and DevX - for the purpose of assisting those who might like to use it as a more general distro (rather than just as a online banking type distro).

Direct to GUI on both the Radeon and Nvidia PC's that I have access to. (remastering using a nvidia PC seems to help to reduce/avoid blackscreen boots).

With a relatively fast internet link, with just a blank DVD and Windows, I had a ISO downloaded and burnt (using the windows DVD burner that's included in the ISO (I used 7-Zip to extract the burner from the ISO)) within around 5 minutes. 5 minutes later I'd booted to the desktop, downloaded latest firefox, visited my download web page and downloaded OpenShot and was editing a video).

ROX has been changed to use double-clicks (right click on empty ROX space, select options and change settings in Filer-Window and Pinboard to use single clicks as you prefer).

ISO includes a windows ISO burner program for the convenience of those who might otherwise struggle.

Get (download) and run script in the home directory can be double clicked in which case you have to wait (no prompts yet) for it to complete (download 30MB of Firefox) and form the firefox sub directory, etc.

From ram boot using puppy pfix=ram,nocopy at the initial desktop I'm seeing 220MB RAM used. With gui, firewall, sound set up, firefox and flash SFS's loaded, watching a SneekyLinux YouTube RAM usage rises to around 550MB

mirrored here:
http://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux ... get-ff.iso



**edit - other files mirrored also **

http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_ThinSlacko

Thanks ally. I've added the download locations to the download web page

rufwoof wrote:Boot from CD/DVD, activate firewall, activate network, .

Nice work. Love the wallpaper. I have often wondered if it would be possible to activate the firewall out-of-the-box, even before any network config is done. I googled a bit but couldn't see a way to do it. If you know of a way to do this it would be a nice addition for extra safety.

rufwoof wrote:I've remastered 01micko's Thin Slacko to thin it down even more.

Many thanks, rufwoof!

Just downloaded and tried it.

Appreciate very much your work, and of course that of 01micko.

I'll soon try using this new Puppy in your ultra-secure mode.

Is it OK to also use it as general purpose OS, with a savefile, opera browser, claws-mail, and a couple of other utilities and applications?

Thanks again,
Sheldon

Is it OK to also use it as general purpose OS, with a savefile, opera browser, claws-mail, and a couple of other utilities and applications?

Should be. It was just remastered with the addition of the get latest Firefox script, a few other minor changes (fixed gnome-player so it full screens ok, changed ROX to double-clicks, changed right-click open with list (removed some, added in a couple (ROX and Trash)), added an extra driver for Belkin USB wireless (that I use), and deleted out some of the programs (Osmo, Notecase, epdfview ...etc)). Otherwise the same as the original, so PPM/SFS etc should all work ok.

Is it OK to also use it as general purpose OS

See my earlier updated posting (6 postings back from this posting) : I've added some SFS's (and PET's) to the download web page that assist with establishing a more general purpose version. i.e. (but not limited to) Skype, TeamView, Audacity, Blender, OpenShot, xvidcap, Virtual Machine, Wine, Samba, JRE, GIMP, Geany, Flash, NVIDIA driver, Libre Office, Messa, Kernel Sources and DevX.

Whilst I've tried each/all of those, I've not done so in a detailed manner i.e. they fire up and run OK.

As there's a 6 limit on the number of SFS's you can have loaded at any one time, and on my system one of those slots is used for nvidia drivers, I've also uploaded a multi-media sfs - single sfs that contains audacity, blender, xvidcap and openshot - so all of those count as just a single sfs. You could of course load each individually, in fact its probably better to do so as the multimedia.sfs presently seems to have a bug where xvidcap menu item isn't being created when the multimedia.sfs is loaded (have to start it from the command line).

There's also a flaw with the Teamviewer sfs (that's not limited to this Slacko version) in that it doesn't unload until after you've killed a hanging process.

i.e. run sfs unload and then when it complains run

ps -ef | grep teamview

and note the process number of the hanging process and then

kill -9 <process_number>

For instance if the process number is 5432 then kill -9 5432

and then run sfs unload again.

Alternatively try to unload it and just leave it until the next reboot (which clears it out).

Download of 2.04 gives an error at 61% and retries (W7 Opera).
2.04 is not yet mirrored by Ally... so no alternative site.

Download of 2.04 gives an error at 61%

I had problems with GoogleDrive yesterday - they had reports up about it, but the reports were somewhat hidden. Couldn't download without being logged in (links are all set to anyone with URL can download). Later that seemed to get fixed - I don't know if their devling/changing might have coincided with when you were downloading.

I'm downloading are I write, one from a wired and another from a wireless - both OK so I'm at a loss of what the problem might be

These are the individual share links that I have (the other shared link is for the entire folder/directory).

http://www.jfholdings.pwp.blueyonder.co ... efiles.htm

Same behaviour today. Will try this weekend from puppy linux.

Volhout

2.04 on it's way up now.....



edit: http://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux ... _v2.04.iso

As per Slacko TIPS http://puppylinux.org/wikka/SlackoTips
When I enabled compositing in Slacko 5.3.3t, things didn't run well. i.e. added to /root/.xinitrc the code line

xcompmgr -c -C &

Opaque window moves and resizes left historic trails of windows.

Upgrading jwm to JWM-755 (and updating jwm config also), things improved a lot - but still not 100%. The transparency works well, with increasing transparency the more windows that are opened on top. And opaque window moves and resizes generally work as expected - but can at times still leave a residue region - see the first image in the attached set. The top pinkish box is from where the Frisbee wireless dialog was being reported and then closed (leaving that pink square), the residue in the middle of the screen is from where a screen capture was triggered and closed (leaving that residue). In other cases I have seen some normal window residue being left.

I've uploaded Slacko_5.3.3t_v2.05a (alpha) - 93MB ISO as it currently stands https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4MbXu ... sp=sharing. the .xinitrc code line has been commented out so it runs as normal, you have to remove that comment # and restart x-server to start the compositing effects. You also need quite a good graphics card/driver as opaque window moves/resizes combined with compositing is a relatively heavy graphics demand/load.

The only other changes I've made in 2.05a so far is to include a Flash 10 patch script (in HOME directory) that corrects desktop bleed when youtubes are being played in firefox and firefox is minimised (can leave the youtube video still visible through the desktop). I've also updated the PPM content (original database content was dated).

In normal (non compositing) mode things seem to all run OK, it would be nice however to get compositing working as intended - but I'm at a loss as to how to go about correcting the current problems. Its still usable and generally nice, but the periodic residues being left on the desktop are a annoyance.

Any help/suggestions appreciated.

ally wrote:mirrored here:
http://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux ... get-ff.iso



**edit - other files mirrored also **

http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_ThinSlacko

Wow. Thanks Ally, greatly appreciated.

I've also added Blender 2.59 to my shared googledrive set (together with a recordmydesktop sub-directory that contains the relevant PET's for that to work under Slacko 5.3.3t). The Blender 2.59 version works best with the Openshot video editor also in that set - for unknown reasons 2.63 doesn't work with that version of Openshot.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

Blender 2.59 has no menu, it just installs to / so that when you enter /blender in the Openshot preferences menu you can create animated titles within Openshot. If you want to use Blender as a stand alone (3D animations) then Blender 2.63 is the one to grab as that installs a menu entry.

The other thing to grab to work with Openshot is the inkscape PET - as that's called by Openshot when you want to create scrolling titles.

Another neat feature with Openshot is that you can merge two videos. Pick a transparent colour in one that's in a timeline above another, and the lower one shows through. i.e. you could perhaps web cam a video of yourself against perhaps a black background, have another video of perhaps your desktop (recorded using xvidcap or recordmydesktop) and then set black to be transparent, so that it looks like you're actually sitting inside the desktop.

I haven't actually got xvidcap to record both video and audio. What I do is record both separately anyway. Have the vidcap as capturing video only and use mhWaveEdit to record audio. Having made the recording I tidy up the audio using Audacity - which has options to amplify (or attenuate) the sound level, and a neat option to filter out background noise (my computer makes quite a whirring sound that I don't notice at the time, but do notice when it comes to listen to the audio). Just leave a few seconds of silence at the start of recording and then highlight that in Audacity and use the Effect, Noise Removal menu option and click the Get Profile choice, then highlight all of the sound track and select Effect, Noise Removal and click the OK button - and all of the background noise (grinding computer) is gone.

Once you've got a cleaned up audio (and adjusted the amplification to what sounds good), you can combine both the video with the audio using Openshot. Just a matter of moving the tracks around until they're both in sync (and cut out the lead (and trail) parts as desired).

Add in some titles, background music, some trailer (scrolling text perhaps) and export the edited video and upload to youtube (or create WEMB to include in a web page). I've been doing all that on a 1.5GB RAM single core system (I do however have a Nvidia card which probably helps quite a bit).

blender added

I'm tempted to create it's own page....let me know and I'll generate one

Hi Mike,

You can download 4.4 from


https://archive.org/details/PuppyLinuxPuppeee

It is the 115 mbyte iso

Volhout

direct link for puppeee 4.4:

http://archive.org/download/PuppyLinuxP ... 4.4rc2.iso