ABIWORD cannot open XP files; transfer problem(solved)

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Sit Heel Speak · #61 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Sat 06 May 2006, 05:26

On the computer I'm sending this from, which is not my ThinkPad, I have 2 hard disks. The first is a 20GB partitioned into two equal 10GB partitions. The second is an old 1.28GB Western Digital Caviar.

My PMount shows:

Disk /dev/hda: 20.5GB, (model number)
Mounted on /dev/hda5
/mnt/hda5 9805M vfat

Mounted on /dev/hda1
/mnt/home 9813M vfat

Disk /dev/hdc: 1281 MB, (model number)
Mounted on /dev/hdc1
/mnt/hdc1 1222M vfat

So it appears that you have a single 3GB disk, partitioned into one 2GB and one 1GB partition, with roughly 78MB of wasted space as unallocated cylinders or FAT tables.

You can tell Puppy to mount that second partition at bootup.

1. Start - Utilities - RoxFiler

2. Navigate to /root/.etc/rc.d/

3. Right-click on rc.local and Edit As Text

4. Add the lines at the bottom (but just before the swapon line you added before):

mkdir /mnt/hda5
mount -t msdos /dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5

Now every time you start Puppy, that 2nd partition is available.

If you start - run - rxvt and issue the above two lines, it'll be available now.

Or, of course, you can click on its icon in PMount and PMount will mount it.

You can use RoxFiler or uXplor to browse it. After you get MegaPuppy 2 installed, try the XFE file manager to browse directories, it's great. Almost as great as 2xExplorer.exe in Win 98.

Sit Heel Speak · #62 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Sat 06 May 2006, 05:48

...er...that line "mount" should read msdos, not vfat. The drive is formatted FAT16, not FAT32 (a.k.a. vfat). (Corrected in the above message)

pelokwin · #63 Post by **pelokwin** » Sat 06 May 2006, 06:14

OK it is done (after 3 long days) I am about to burn the files which ones to I need?
wait I need all but the kde right?

Sit Heel Speak · #64 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Sat 06 May 2006, 06:23

Yes, correct. All except KDE 3.4.1 which you don't need.

Copy them all into C:\ in Windows

Boot Puppy and use two instances of RoxFiler, with Ctrl-drag'n'drop, to move them all from /mnt/home to /root except keep usr_more.sfs in /mnt/home

In RoxFiler, extract xorg_opengl.tar first, as directions above.

Then reboot. Puppy will auto-load usr_more.sfs.

Click megapup002.

Click libsqlite3.so.0.8.6.pup, then krecipes-0.9.1.1.pup

...and you should be good to go. Reboot for good luck, then

Start - dotpups - megapup002-launcher

Click KDE

This should restart the window manager as KDE

And I'll have to restart KDE myself to tell you how to launch KRecipes from inside KDE!

When next you message me, I'll be online via my ThinkPad and be looking at the KDE screen.

Sit Heel Speak · #65 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Sat 06 May 2006, 07:02

Keep me posted of progress, or if you want to call it a night I can come back tomorrow night.

pelokwin · #66 Post by **pelokwin** » Sat 06 May 2006, 07:11

I got an error msg "Could not start kstartupconfig. check your installation"
make that two "could not start kdeinit check your inst.

Sit Heel Speak · #67 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Sat 06 May 2006, 07:19

At the black-screen # prompt, issue the command

xwin jwm

to start the ordinary window manager; then, use RoxFiler to go to /root and click on OpenGL.pup to install it or reinstall it.

Then, try starting KDE again through megapup002-launcher.

pelokwin · #68 Post by **pelokwin** » Sat 06 May 2006, 07:22

I think I am going to call it a night everything was going well up untill my last reboot
so I will talk to you tomorow thank you for the help
good night

Sit Heel Speak · #69 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Sat 06 May 2006, 07:29

OK see you then. Those are the same two error messages I got before I learned that I needed OpenGL to start KDE.

Sit Heel Speak · #70 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Sat 06 May 2006, 19:37

pelokwin, I won't be here tonight. I forgot, it's my niece's birthday and I'm taking her to dinner. I'll check back, but not until at least midnight your time, possibly 1.

After you unpack OpenGL.pup, then you should be able to start KDE using

Start - Dotpups - megapup002-launcher - KDE

When KDE comes up and you get it configured (it's easy), then you will see, at the top of your screen, a very tiny rectangle with a puppy in it. Clicking on that gives you the Puppy start menu. Then, it's

Dotpups - start KRecipes

and you're on your way.

Also I recommend you try

Start - Dotpups - megapup002-launcher - Xfe

It's a very nice 2-pane file manager, easier to browse the Linux filesystem (and your 2nd partition) with than Rox or uXplor.

Sit Heel Speak · #71 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Sun 07 May 2006, 05:11

Checking in...

pelokwin · #72 Post by **pelokwin** » Mon 08 May 2006, 03:03

well,
I got every thing "pup" working just fine so now I am just running through all the new stuff. I have run into two problems though. One is open office runs "slower then molassas going uphill in the middle of Jan." and two the Krecipes lost all saved info but I have no idea why? I'm going to the krecipes forum and web site to see if I can find out why.
So have you got to run through any more of the stuff?

#73 Post by MU » Mon 08 May 2006, 03:42

Pelok, the loss of the receipes is a bug related to Puppy1.
It happens, when you run it, without running the KDEpanel first.

If you don't do that, the database gets broken.
You can repair it like this:
Start the KDEpanel.
Run krecipes from the panel or from the Dotpupsmenu.

Choose "Settings - configure krecipes".
Check the "Re-run wizard on next startup".
Restart krecipes., and choose the first option to create the database from new.

This is unfortunately quite dangerous, if you add own receipes.
Puppy2 should be able to handle that better, but that won't help you...

You might need a script, that backups the database before running kreceipes.
I'm too tired now, but might try to do that tomorrow.

Mark

pelokwin · #74 Post by **pelokwin** » Mon 08 May 2006, 04:03

thanks MU I thought it had something to do with not opening the krecipes in kde

#75 Post by MU » Mon 08 May 2006, 04:26

yes, it is related to that.
Kreceipes should be used only in KDE.
But KDE is not so well integrated in Puppy.

So I added the Button "KDEpanel" in the megapup-launcher.

When you click it, the most important files of KDE will start, but you still are in Puppys Desktop.
So you run "both" simultaneously, Puppys Desktop called JWM and the KDE-panel.
The KDE-panel is this bar with the tasklist and the KDE-menu.

When you have started the KDEpanel, it should be ok to use kreceipes even without running the "whole" KDE-Desktop.

Mark

Sit Heel Speak · #76 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Mon 08 May 2006, 04:34

Yay!!!

Mark, what is the reason why full KDE wouldn't be more secure for KRecipes than just running with KDEpanel?

I've run KRecipes not just alongside KDEpanel but rather from within full KDE about a dozen times now; I have not seen either KDE or KRecipes crash, nor lose recipes.

Konqueror, however, freezes every so often for a minute or two.

Sit Heel Speak · #77 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Mon 08 May 2006, 04:42

Open Office is not slow for me; in fact it is faster in KDE+Puppy 1.0.8 than in Windows 98.

Did you modify your grub.exe's menu.lst, to change PSLEEP=25 to PSLEEP=999, so Puppy runs in RAM?

And, perhaps we should raise the size of your swapfile. How much free space is on your second partition?

#78 Post by MU » Mon 08 May 2006, 04:43

konqueror?
strange, I use it all the time without problems. My favorite webbrowser meanwhile. You might try to run it from a console, maybe it can display a helpfull errormessage before it freezes.
Mark

Sit Heel Speak · #79 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Mon 08 May 2006, 04:48

MU wrote:konqueror?
strange, I use it all the time without problems. My favorite webbrowser meanwhile. You might try to run it from a console, maybe it can display a helpfull errormessage before it freezes.
Mark

Ah, Yes, the beauty of Linux! This OS gets sweeter every day...

pelokwin · #80 Post by **pelokwin** » Mon 08 May 2006, 04:54

hey SHS,
I got 885mb

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