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Lobster
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 04:44 Post subject:
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antiloquax wrote: | Hi Lobster,
I haven't tried Barry's compile of Rox. What's the advantage of this over the Rox from the Arch repo? Is it smaller, faster? I may try it tomorrow if I get a chance. |
Well I got a segmentation fault. I wish you more luck. It is more than likely smaller and is designed to link into Puppy programs, icons etc.
Quote: | Anyway, today I have been continuing to make slight progress.
I've installed xarchiver. I was having problems with Pygame in Python2, so I ditched that and compiled Python3.1.4. The current Arch version is 3.2.3 (I think). Pygame sound doesn't work yet with 3.2.x |
The sound facility/driver ALSA driver is at an early stage. I am not bothering with for example mhwaveedit.
Quote: | I have pygame working now and it's importing images properly. So that's nice. I tried to install transmission-gtk, but got some errors. I will have to check my mirrors more thoroughly.
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Good that you are making progress. Yesterday I tried making use of upx to make programs smaller (without success). Though Puppy programs are compressed and decompressed before running anyways . . . Gnumeric was working OK. I have also started a simple bash script for the puppification of Squeeze.
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antiloquax

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Posted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 05:22 Post subject:
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That's great Lobster.
I am planing to install Scratch later. The version in the Arch repo is marked as "out of date" so I will have a go with the source files.
I'm planning to try to include some more specific Puppy bits (eg the screenshot shell script from Slacko).
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Flash
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 23:36 Post subject:
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Here are two articles about the Raspberry Pi board, one with pictures of the board.
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/raspberry-pi-unboxing/6359727?seq=2&tag=content;siu-container#photopaging
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/10-coolest-uses-for-the-raspberry-pi/505?tag=nl.e010
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antiloquax

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Posted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 09:33 Post subject:
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I've made some more progress with the Arch Puppi.
I've installed Open JDK, Greenfoot, GeoGebra, Lua and Ruby.
At present I can't get Scratch to work.
I've used the Slacko JWM tray and menu structure.
I will make a copy of the filesystem as soon as I can and upload it. This will probably take a long time as my internet connection isn't very fast. I don't see how I can make a proper image like the original one, but you should be able to dd the file-system across into an SD card set up with the original Arch image.
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Lobster
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Posted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 10:00 Post subject:
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creating img file
Code: | dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/a/mounted/filesystem/filename.img |
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=621977#621977
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Posted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 10:12 Post subject:
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Quote: | Ville on April 20, 2012 at 8:07 am said:
Wow, that actually explains why the lock “switch” on the SD card is not electrically connected anywhere – it’s actually the SD slot that detects the position of the lock tab.
I took one broken SD card apart a couple of days ago and was trying to figure out how the lock “switch” worked. |
I'll have to confirm that. I've taken broken SD cards apart, but didn't notice, or can't remember, how the lock "switch" worked.
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antiloquax

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Posted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 07:22 Post subject:
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Hi Lobster,
Yes I used DD to create an image of the filesystem that I used in qemu (uploading to Ubuntu One now - very slow!)
What I wondered was if I could make a bootable SD card & image. I have had a go at this (but have no way to test it until I get my Pi).
I have a supposedly "2gb" card and I tried to DD the arch image onto it, but it isn't big enough! I had a go at DD-ing the boot partition onto it, but libparted told me that there were problems when I tried to run a check. Having said that Windows could see the files in this partition, so maybe it didn't matter!
I'm hoping to have a killer Arch-Pup by the time my Pi arrives!
I have one annoying problem. The "Up" key seems to be mapped to "print screen"! I've had a look at my .jwmrc and xorg settings, but so far I haven't solved it.
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Posted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 18:06 Post subject:
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I visited the Wakefield RISC OS Show on Saturday, Very interesting. Two stands had Raspberry Pis running. One had a version of Linux on it, I didn't have time for any more than a quick play but it appeared that the WM it was using was Openbox - I'm guessing this from the appearance of the icon bar and the presence of some Openbox items in the menu,
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antiloquax

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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 07:32 Post subject:
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The file mentioned in my previous post is corrupt is some way.
I'll repost a link if I manage to get it working.
sorry!
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Lobster
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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 08:46 Post subject:
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Thanks guys
Quote: | If anyone feels like having a look |
Downloading and gonna burn over my Debian
. . . hope it works
If it is stable and faster - oh joy
MarkG asked about Bacon Twitter - I did not test it
It is the GUI building that interests me
Progs can be created on X86 and easily moved
Report back soon
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Lobster
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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 09:23 Post subject:
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Not sure what I am doing wrong but downloaded and tried to unzip twice . . .
Code: | # unzip puppi.zip
Archive: puppi.zip
End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not
a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the
latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
the last disk(s) of this archive.
unzip: cannot find zipfile directory in one of puppi.zip or
puppi.zip.zip, and cannot find puppi.zip.ZIP, period.
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antiloquax

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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 09:24 Post subject:
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antiloquax wrote: |
I haven'd had a chance yet to download it and test it, but hopefully it is ok.
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Hmmm I've just tried downloading it and unzipping but something is wrong. Sorry - I'll try re-uploading it.
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Posted: Tue 01 May 2012, 01:41 Post subject:
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Quote: | I'll try re-uploading it.
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Thanks Mark - appreciate the efforts
. . .meanwhile . . .
I tried compiling a GUI editor in and for Bacon
It took aprox 90 minutes to interpret and compile . . . and needed some dependencies
. . . could be a slow and laborious process to error check and I may have to put that on hold.
Compiling and optimisation is going to be critical
I may need a genie
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ValaGenieintro
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Posted: Tue 01 May 2012, 07:36 Post subject:
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OK been trying valac (the deb)
but it needs GTK+ and I am still unable to find this with synaptic
Must look again - got to be there somewhere
Not telling me I have to compile the GTK+
Ay Chihuahua
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Posted: Tue 01 May 2012, 12:34 Post subject:
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I've re-uploaded my arch filesystem (to a diff hosting site). I will check it myself with an md5sum before I post the link.
BTW after tman's comments about xorg-twm, I have been playing with it and ROX. I am going to get rid of JWM, just to see if it makes any difference to performance.
Also, I have been reading some interesting things about assembly code, Lisp and Perl. So much to learn ...
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