Upup Precise 5.3.3.3 with kernel 3.3.2

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#121 Post by James C »

Purely for testing purposes........full install of Precise Puppy 5.3.3.1.

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PUPMODE=2
#ATADRIVES is all internal ide/pata/sata drives, excluding optical, excluding usb...
ATADRIVES='sda '
#ATAOPTICALDRIVES is list of non-usb optical drives...
ATAOPTICALDRIVES='sr0 '
PUP_HOME='/'
PDEV1='sda9'
DEV1FS='ext3'
# report-video
Upup Precise, version 5.3.3.1 on Tue 24 Apr 2012

Chip description:
1.0 VGA compatible controller
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (rev 03)
oem: Intel810(TM) Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: # vesa

X.Org version: 1.11.4
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (321x241 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#
Actually using the Intel driver.

-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 253MB (107MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 24 Apr 2012 03:05:30 AM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.3.2-upup (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Wed Apr 18 20:00:55 EEST 2012
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc25443
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-Misc-
Uptime : 18 minutes
Load Average : 1.37, 0.94, 0.56


No problems yet but it's after 3 am so I need sleep. :lol:

EDIT:

Rebooted and ps/2 mouse frozen......... keyboard still functional.Changing to usb mouse results in no change.

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#122 Post by mrokosz »

Hey, James C.
Who are You to write that Grub 2 is a crap, what is Your education level, keep such opinions to Yourself. You probably don't know much what You writing.
But I have to be more precise, when I wrote os frozen, I ment USB mouse. I will also try to install to more modern comp like HP mini 210, but for now what I notice frugall installation does not save wireless setting. Every time I boot, I have to setup the wireless network again, it is restricted network using WPA encription.

If it tells me during boot up setting layered file system failed that definitely is something wrong, otherwise it will tell pass, however from the first look it seems everything is working OK.
I will be checking frugal installation cause that one works so far.
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#123 Post by pemasu »

Frozen usb mouse in full install has been fixed in next test version. Barry Kauler posted 2 days ago the fix for it. I have downloaded the relevant code change.

symlink in /dev for mouse has been missing in full installs. Fixed now and it should work in next release.

But why it announces that layering file system setup failure. It should not happen. Oh well...I need to to do full install to some comp and check myself what creates that announcing. There shouldnt be initrd.gz to launch that message

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#124 Post by Terryphi »

mrokosz wrote:Hey, James C.
Who are You to write that Grub 2 is a crap, what is Your education level, keep such opinions to Yourself. You probably don't know much what You writing.
mrokosz: I can see that it is not in your nature but please try to be polite or you will not receive any help in this forum.

On the question of Grub 2, I agree with JamesC. Grub 2 is crap.
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#125 Post by 01micko »

pemasu... thread capsize here sorry.. (sincerely.. I'll get to some serious upup feedback soon as penance :wink: )

Terry... see Billy's rant ..

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#126 Post by vtpup »

Clock:

Psync clock synchronizer doesn't seem to change the clock time (possibly because of locale problem, below).

Time is always shown in 24H format.

Either right or left clicking on time in tray doesn't bring up clock or calendar setting utility.

message on mouseover of clock says GMT+5, when I have actually set GMT-5 in locale. (Just checked that again and locale definitely says GMT-5)
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#127 Post by musher0 »

pemasu wrote:musher0. If you type in console: wmexit
how does that behave in that non exiting comp

I have had sometimes succes with using strace command. It tracks the system calls. Of course you get 99 % of problem unrelevant messages to console...but I once fixed really obscure slow gtk app lauching problem with strace finding.
Download strace with PPM and launch: strace wmexit
in that problematic app. Sometimes you get not found message with it.
Okay....mostly I dont get any useful information with strace.
Ok, will try this strace. Along with bash -x wmexit.

But I was wrong, I spoke from memory. The chip does not matter. I have to force myself out of Precise with ctrl+Alt+backspace, then type reboot or shutdown.

There seems to be a small epidemic of this: here, in slacko, in wary... (Have a look at the forum list: new users keep reporting this problem.)

I looked inside wmexit and it seems that the language profile ($LANG, etc. variables) has something to do with it. Will investigate further and try replacing these exit scripts with older ones and see what happens.

IMHO, even French-Canadians should be allowed out of Puppy... :twisted: Opinions can vary, of course (tongue-in-cheek).
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#128 Post by pemasu »

I have to be lucky. We finns still can wmexit safely.

I was wrong. The error message in full install wasnt about layering file system...as it shouldnt. It was:
Making the filesystem usable.... failed

I checked /tmp/bootsysinit.log: there was reference to /dev/shm:
mount: mount point /dev/shm does not exist

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# grep /dev/shm /etc/rc.d/* 
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:mount -t tmpfs -o size=${QTRFREERAM}k shmfs /dev/shm ;STATUS=$((STATUS+$?))
okay....it is rc.sysinit:

So...it tries to mount /dev/shm and fails...because the mount point does not exist, but after booting...there is that mount point and /dev/shm has been mounted.

Anyway the /dev/shm has been mounted so...it is just false failed failure....FFF ie 3F ie a lot smoke without fire....

I suppose better coder could get more out of this.

Anyway...if I just change the code to this:

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QTRFREERAM=`expr $FREERAM \/ 4`
mount -t tmpfs -o size=${QTRFREERAM}k shmfs /dev/shm 2>/dev/null
the boot message of Making the filesystem usable....changes to done

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#129 Post by musher0 »

Solved my shutdown problem. Please see here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 476#622476
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#130 Post by pemasu »

Thanks musher0. I did download the pet and I did deposit for future need. I hope the problem will be fixed through woof commit properly.

Upup Precise 5.3.3.2 has been uploaded. Several small fixes. I have cleaned my pkgs specs so that pure debs are used and I have removed my combined test pets. Soon anybody can woof build these test builds.

Devx sfs has been improved. Git, gettext, cmake has been fullfilled to work straight. Timezone data is now full precise pangolin zoneinfo folder...huge...but should work. Later I suppose there can be done some cleaning and hopefully the size of the folder can be reduced.

xbindkeys has been compiled in Upup Precise and the .xbindkeysrc has been updated so that Pmusic commands has been keybinded to multimedia keys...if they are generic.

Broadcom wireless wl module has been added and firmware.dep file has been updated.

PupClockset has been added. Otherwise this is still more or less...go to basics release. Trying to get the core work...

Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrec ... ecise5332/

Kernel sources link has been posted in the first page.

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#131 Post by mrokosz »

Pemasu,
Can You make an upgrade file from Upup 5.3.3.1 or please inform if just replacing sfs file will do
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#132 Post by pemasu »

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrec ... .iso.delta

Do you know how to use xdelta file. There is in menu > utility > xdelta file difference manager. Use it to create new iso. The gui is selfexplanatory.

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#133 Post by vtpup »

pemasu wrote:http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrec ... .iso.delta

Do you know how to use xdelta file. There is in menu > utility > xdelta file difference manager. Use it to create new iso. The gui is selfexplanatory.
Very cool, but.....didn't work. Dragged old 5331 iso into top field of xdelta, and the new delta file into the lower field, Hit GENERATE and got error message.

Target window checksum mismatch. Unknown error number 4294949584.

sorry!

--does this mean that either the diff file download or my iso may have a bad checksum?
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#134 Post by musher0 »

pemasu wrote:http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrec ... .iso.delta

Do you know how to use xdelta file. There is in menu > utility > xdelta file difference manager. Use it to create new iso. The gui is selfexplanatory.
Thanks, pemasu. Will look this up a little later.
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#135 Post by pemasu »

I believe the delta file was not correctly downloaded...or of course it can be the iso file also.

Here is the md5sum of the delta file:
7f62ce2dbe6a08d0ef4280c3eedbd0fe

I have uploaded it also to same folder.

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#136 Post by vtpup »

Looks okay for both:

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# md5sum precise-5.3.3.1-SCSI.iso___precise-5.3.3.2-SCSI.iso.delta
7f62ce2dbe6a08d0ef4280c3eedbd0fe  precise-5.3.3.1-SCSI.iso___precise-5.3.3.2-SCSI.iso.delta
# md5sum precise-5.3.3.1-SCSI.iso
73e4f0a2aa3ab70885f3a0856c7cec93  precise-5.3.3.1-SCSI.iso
Oh well, downloading the full ISO now.

Thanks for all your work pemasu!


(btw was using XDelta in Racy53, if that makes a difference)
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#137 Post by mrokosz »

Pemasu,
Yes I used xdelta before, but I was not writing about updating iso but updating os on the computer with all staff installed. I have to admit, so far everythings works a OK. For the testing purpose I installed whole bunch of software made for lucid like Libreoffice, skype, bleachbit. So far so good. I hate Rox file manager, unfortunately Thunar does not work right. I hope one day puppy flavor linux will come with repository with command like apt-get update / upgrade. I try Upup Precise on HP mini 210 and it works like a champ, but mostly I use my old Sony Vaio laptop. P3 500 MHz is not good enough to run video and some other tasks, but HP netbook will do. Ubuntu 12.04 is also running great.
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PS For now I just swapped sfs files and renamed to see how the new staff works.

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#138 Post by vtpup »

mrokosz wrote:Pemasu,

PS For now I just swapped sfs files and renamed to see how the new staff works.
mrokosz, what did you rename? I don't think that is normally done for an upgrade in a frugal install, Unless you mean you renamed a copy of the personal savefile as a back up.
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#139 Post by vtpup »

Screen dimming (Fn + left-right arrow) keyboard functions now work (although reversed -- as usual in all puppies tested so far -- but I'll try working on that in xkeybindings later) But very glad it works now!

Haven't tested other keybindings yet.

Clock:

Now can get 12 hour format -- great!

However I still get the strange reporting of timezone as GMT +5 instead of GMT-5 (Lima Bogota New York) as it is supposed to be. I have set the timezone correctly to GMT-5 (see screenshot below), yet mousing over the clock shows it set to GMT +5 . Same thing in Psync (also in screenshot).

A possible suggestion:

The dropdown timezone list is ordered with +5 and - 5 adjacent in the list to each other. It used to be ordered differently, as +4, +5, +6, etc. and -4,-5,-6 etc

In re-ordering the list, maybe a mistake was made. I believe the list is out of sync in the lower section where these entries are.

It may not affect others using entries higher up the list, but these lower entries are probably a result of a double entry, or a missing entry somewhere. Or an index that is off by 1.

Just a guess........
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#140 Post by James C »

Manually updated frugal install from 5.3.3.1 to 5.3.3.2. Other than needing to redo the icon arrangement on the desktop there were no apparent difficulties.
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