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tytower

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 16:49    Post subject:  Lost UTube and other video playing  

I logged into UTube with my Facebook username etc and since then my video has ceased playing in Firefox and in Monkey. It runs OK externally if I play a video on file but not one over the net.

Something has been altered . The rest of the page loads fine but the video screen remains black , no play button or download spinning wheel . Adblock is turned off

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 17:12    Post subject:  

OK
I saw something when running Monkey which said "Java has been disabled for my protection" ?? WTF

Who gave permission to alter anything on my machine?
How was anything altered on my machine ?
What is built in to enable mozzilla to do this?

and how the hell do I stop that.

I ask these questions because I downloaded a new Java jre 1.6.0_31 (mine was 1.6.0_30) and that fixed the problem in Monkey but not Firefox.

Obviously Mozzilla are able to disable my machine any time they choose . I do not want that to be ever possible . How can I stop it ? anyone know how its done?

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 18:14    Post subject:  

Also somewhere in Firefox I can change the version of JRE used .
Can anyone point me to where this is . I have been into the preferences and about:config and the Firefox files without seeing it so far . I have also skimmed the mozilla site to no avail

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 00:32    Post subject:  

About the Java alert in Firefox, this is the page the warning references:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p80

Quote:
Who is affected?
All Firefox users who have installed the Java plugin, JRE versions below 1.6.0_31 or between 1.7.0 and 1.7.0_2.


I'm not sure there's any way to get Firefox to 'ignore' the Java version (haven't tried re-enabling it after FF disables it, though), and as far as I know, there's no way to tell Firefox which JRE to use, if you use more than one.

Are you sure you don't have a previous/outdated version of the Java plugin in your Firefox plugins directory?

Also, you might want to use Mozilla's Plugin Check page to make sure all of your plugins (well, at least the ones the site knows) are up-to-date.

Mozilla's taking a proactive stance, I guess, because a large number of people out there don't bother to update their plugins, and things like older versions of Flash and Java do have some notable vulnerabilities. If you don't like them possibly disabling these plugins, though, you might write to Mozilla (or use their forums) and see if there's a way you can disable the behavior.

As for the video problem, are you using a Javascript blocker like NoScript?

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tytower

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 05:51    Post subject:  

Its damn annoying - Even Texas holdem poker on facebook won't play until I get this fixed !!
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 10:37    Post subject:  

The black thing happens sometimes to me too. A mystery
It sometimes help to do restart of xorg. What is going on?

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 15:35    Post subject:  

Ty, ahh.. which Pup, FF and Flash version we talk'n here? As Makoto questioned- NoScript?
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tytower

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 16:21    Post subject:  

OK thanks

I am not using a script blocker .Depending on how you see addblock-lite.
I do use that and I have tried disabling it on the video's page ,frame and web site .

ie.disabled on utube.com

My plugins are up to date as far as I am aware .

In Java there is a desktop console to find and add or remove java versions used by the browser

go to chosen download directory/jre1.6.0_31/plugin/desktop/ and click in sun_java.desktop

I have tried here too without success in firefox's case

Semme - I am using Puppy 5.31 Firefox is 11.0 , and the built in check for updates button under "about" tells me I am up to date
Flash player is 11.1.r102 but that dates to 11/01/11

Semme your right in between me atm -the Update checker tells me thats the latest version ?

Nooby - that black screen is only in the video frame -whereas you should get a play icon and then a whirling wheel I get nothing , consistently on any site that opens up a video window . Note that changing the java version and then using monkey browser on the same machine the videos play fine

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 16:27    Post subject:  

Sans blocker- my.... OK, I see.. must have been a late edit..

Oh yeah, your Flash is outdated. Any reason you're not running their latest?

Tell me too- Monkey's what.. some type of media interface?
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 16:41    Post subject:  

Monkey is a smaller size mozilla browser that comes with Puppy--SeaMonkey that should be


despite numerous (10) tries I have not been able to install a later version of flashplayer ,using yum ,rpm,targz,and apt versions available I have not been able to install it properly afaik.
EDIT got this done finally see below

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 16:52    Post subject:  

OK, thanks.

As far as Flash, the updater's wrong. The latest is 11.2r202.

I'll send a link.. Backup your existing libflashplayer.so then dwnld'n unpack mine. Rename it libflashplayer.so and have it overwrite your current one in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.

Goto YouTube and try- you don't need Java for web-based videos to work, just JS'n Flash (and not necessarily Flash).

Oh if you can, dump your cache before that retry..
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 17:01    Post subject:  

Thanks semme I'll give it a try
Thanks also Makoto. I went to the blocking page and I am concerned this can be done on my machine without my consent. I noted this line on their blog

http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2012/04/02/blocking-java/

Affected versions of the Java plugin will be disabled unless a user makes an explicit choice to keep it enabled at the time they are notified of the block being applied.

I have not yet found any way of unblocking this

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 17:10    Post subject:  

Yeah, give it a go. If it doesn't pan out, please... firefox -safe-mode and continue in safe mode. Retry a tube..

After all this open about:config'n toggle this entry: extensions.blocklist.enabled

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 17:13    Post subject:  

Semme - I'm just a bit sus on your suggestion -don't mean to offend but ,you send me a download site by PM for a 6Mb plus file .
http://www.webx.dk/oz2cpu/ant940/ant940.htm
I search around and find other sites to d/l the same file ? with sizes much smaller
http://www.esoft.web.id/internet-tools/adobe-flash-player-112202228-final-must-fully-enjoy-web.html

So I wonder what else is attached to your file that increases its size?

OK that blocklist enabled sounds good at this point Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr 2012, 17:18    Post subject:  

Hey.. go dwnld the latest from Adobe then and extract only the file you need- libflashplayer.so.
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