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Manual frugal install to a 4gb flash drive.

Precise Puppy, version 5.2.73 on Thu 30 Aug 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV530 [Radeon X1600]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: radeon

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.436 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.883 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.890 FPS

Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Memory 1554MB (90MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 30 Aug 2012 07:32:42 AM EDT
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org R300 Project
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2
Direct Rendering Yes

Hardware acceleration is working now, google earth and nexuiz run
great.

Thanks, Precise Puppy is working well now.

LateAdopter wrote:Hello Billtoo

According to Xorg your RV530 is supported by the r300g driver which has gallium 3D built-in

But in this puppy /usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so is missing, while r600_dri.so is there.

I expect you could get it from the Ubuntu repo. Then it should work.

There is some r300 firmware already but I don't know whether it is complete.

A search of the Ubuntu repo for r300 would show you.

I expect r100 and r200 stuff also needs to be added to this puppy for other cards.

Thanks, Barry has added the r300_dri.so to version 5.2.7.3 and it is working well.

Manual frugal install to an 8gb flash drive.

Precise Puppy, version 5.2.73 on Thu 30 Aug 2012

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller
Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: intel

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Memory 6087MB (102MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 30 Aug 2012 08:37:54 AM EDT

OpenGL
Vendor Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.317 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.999 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.000 FPS

Google Earth etc are working great.

feelsub wrote: Unfortunately, in PPM no simple image editor ( rotate, lossless crop, compress)
....

Download and activate the ubuntu-universe repo that is not included in 5.2.7x. Has most of these.
BTW you may want to inactivate one of the activated repos since PPM has trouble handling more than 5.

I failed the intelligence test on merging precise-updates in the Package Manager

When doing an update it asks whether you want to merge and says Enter to decline. But I couldn't work out what to do to accept.

I ended up with separate databases for the updates.

The trouble is that, if you want to install from the update, the package manager only offers local files and not the repo.

Any suggestion as to how I accept merging the databases?

Thanks

Both the 5.2.71 and 5.2.72 versions are running extremely well on my 10yr old Acer laptop.
Everything seems to work as expected - no obvious problems found yet.
Downloading 5.2.73 now - will report.

Much appreciation for all that you do - very best regards - Ray

feelsub wrote:Precise beta3 on core5, 4gb ram

Seeems promising, but:

Bug: Gimp 2.8.x or LibreOffice installs correctly, but at run I get a :
Opening '/root/%U' failed: No such file or directory

Unfortunately, in PPM no simple image editor ( rotate, lossless crop, compress)
No : Picasa, gThumb, F-Spot, Gimp 2.8.2 (but 2.6.x and fails to run)
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7152/1

http://techcityinc.com/2009/03/23/10-be ... for-linux/

I also regret the absence in PPM of Chrome 21.x
I didn't check about availabilty &run of photorec6.14, skype, openshot 1.4.x, mediatagger.

I would also head for ffmpeg 0.11 latest build ( has fixes for synch issues - some I reported - before official 0.11.2) as supports more codecs including wma lossless.

Thanks

In the meantime I revert to lupulibre528.005-2

if the gimp 2.8.2 i post is the one you installed it should not have the Opening '/root/%U' failed: No such file or directory problem, i always fix that, it is in the .desktop file located at /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop , where it say Exec=gimp-2.8 %U remove the "%U". again my pet should not have that problem i always fix that. if it does that for LibreOffice then it is the same way to fix it.

Just installed Precise 5.2.73

Luvly jubbly

The ATI Radeon HD6450 video hardware (recent but not the latest kit)
got recognised at boot-up no problem. This is the first Ubuntu-based Puppy in recent times that has been able to do this.

Real Ubuntu 12.04 itself managed this from the live CD but was not able to configure the ATI card to get recognised after installing to metal. So, with real Ubuntu 12.04 I have to resort to using the fglrx proprietary driver - whereas I prefer using the open-source driver. The missing firmware has always been the problem then by the looks of it.

So this is a big win for Puppy here. Still the top dog!

Got problems with the cat at the mo. When I get him sorted out I'll put this version through its usual paces and report any bugs (if there are any).

Did a frugal install of Precise-5.2.73

It all looks good and working on my IBM X60

video report

Precise Puppy, version 5.2.73 on Thu 30 Aug 2012

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller
Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
oem: Intel(r) 82945GM Chipset Family Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r) 82945GM Chipset Family Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: vesa

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

Hi Barry
I think the kernel source sfs for the non-pae 71 version is corrupt - see attached screenie - seem to be broken links pointing to directories on your computer.....

I checked the md5sum is correct BTW.

Thanks
PeeBee

Everything has set up very nicely in 5.2.73. Google-chrome from slacko works fine. Aisleriot, and pwidgets pets install.

The only problem is how to set up suspend/resume for my laptop. I tried copying ACPI from upup, but that didn't work. I also tried to install acpi from ubuntu, but couldn't figure that out. It also drove my fan crazy and I shut down.

any suggestions appreciated

bob

5.2.71 no PAE
Manual frugal install to HD on a Compaq Armada M700.
Pentium 850 mhz, 576MB ram,
ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) Driver used: mach64
PCMCIA Wifi with b43 driver

Quick test - one problem though:
USB mouse not recognised. Never had a problem with this in any pup before. Rebooted into Wary just to check the socket hadn't died (just got a single 1.1 socket), but it is still ok.

Mentioned previously that 5.2.69 would boot with a CF card in a PCMCIA adapter - got that wrong, as it was not pushed in properly. Ejecting the card will allow the boot process to continue, so not a big deal.

01micko wrote:

BarryK wrote:

bigpup wrote:Dell desktop
Pentium 4 processor
Nvidia nv37gl Quadro video card
precise5271-nopae frugal

Boots to desktop
Some desktop program icons missing or half visible
no items visible in menus
Some program icons in taskbar, but not all
The icons/entry's that should be showing in menu and taskbar. You can put mouse pointer at the location where they should be and left click will run the program that should have an icon/entry at that location.

Seems to be using Nouveau graphic driver.
Will not get to desktop if you select Vesa driver with Xorgwizard.

I wonder if it makes any difference choosing 24-bit rather than 16-bit color depth. Earlier JWM versions have had a problem in this area, I think the main trouble was with 16-bit.

Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change the "16" in two places to "24".

It is more likely to be a nouveau issue in bigpup's case I believe. The symptoms are near identical to drblock2's (incidentally, it's with his help I came up with the nouveau_unload script in slacko development). I reckon the only way around this is to have it written in the release notes because nouveau has advanced well in recent times and it would be a shame to leave it out. Xorgwizard is *supposed* to work with it, I haven't tested this in Precise. At a guess nouveau would support 95% of nvidias quite well. Works fine on my 4 cards ranging from an old vanta to an 8300GS.

Those having trouble with nouveau (ie nvidia cards) could try puppy pfix=ram nouveau.modeset=0 at CD boot or on the kernel line.

Added nouveau.modeset=0 to end of kernel line.
That fixed it.
Booted to normal desktop and menus.
Still set at 16-bit color depth in xorg.conf

Just wonder why Vesa driver would not work?
It normally works with any graphics card.

I will hold off ferther testing until there is at least a 6 hour freeze on new version of Precise Puppy.

@BHINTZ...

I am using Precise Pup 5.2.73... by installing the following two pets... acpitool 0.5.1-2-486.pet AND PupShutdown-1.8.1.pet... i was able to suspend / resume my laptop...

After installation... you can usually find PupShutdown Manager in your Menu in Utility... just click PupShutdown... then click the very bottom left icon... then click standby/suspend.

Good luck...

Results of Beta4 testing
I dont regard this post by me as authoritative, but, I do want to report the results of Precise Beta 4 (standard shipped PAE version) on all my test systems setup for Puppy testing.
All PCs are 2006+ system; 4 of which were trash-bin items.
They comprise 3 laptops, 2 32bit desktops, 2 64bit desktops each with 2GB+ RAM.
All systems booted to desktotp without issues and perform speedily.
Not one issue with kernel panics, or video. All achieved the LAN without issues of any sort.

Next, using LH64 as a Netboot server, I setup LH64 to serve Precise-beta4 to the LAN. All PCs, again, PXE booted without issues of any sort. This I was able to do, simultaneously, with excellent results. This was a test for an upcoming demo of PUPPY power with some very simple techniques. And, there was little to no impact on the performance numbers on the LH64 server. LH64=LightHouse64.

Thus far, I have NOT changed any video other than what the systems booted with as default. Thus, all systems are in a pristine state.

This is another superb distro from the author!

This is an appeal for assistance
BTW, I have never setup KVM or VM???. I know that several members of this community are users of VM with Puppy. I have an idea for perfecting my Puppy tests that we routinely do in the forum. I am interesting in writing a Guide that some forum testors can use to test alpha/beta/RC progressions of Puppy(s) as if it was on a real LAN. Is anyone willing to work with me to accomplish setup of such a procedural guide for users? Please PM me if you are willing to collaborate to create this. Thanks in advance.
One real reason for doing this is that it will allow testing, feedback, and tailoring without my having to "decommission" any operating PC to do Puppy testing. (P.S. I do recognize the advantages and the disadvantages to testing in a VM environment).

Again, this is a request to PM me. Do not post here, on this, as it would be further distractful.

@bigpup

How did you try to get vesa to work? In my xorgwizard test on my old vanta card it worked as expected, nouveau_unload works then you reboot, boots to a vesa desktop. I do realise it would be impossible to run xorgwizard from gui in your situation with garbled menus, but what about from prompt? If you get time can you test please? If it doesn't work then the nouveau_unload script may have a logic flaw, it is supposed to work outside of X too, and has for me. You can see why these things need to be documented as "known issues" in the release notes because it will be awhile before every video card works perfectly! (if ever, any *nix).

Good you got it working with the kernel line mod, as always there is more than one way to skin a cat (sorry tronkel, obviously a cat lover )

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@peebee

Did you try and recreate the symlinks manually? Should work. I'm sure Barry will fix it soon.

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@tronkel

Good to hear KMS works well on your radeon. I had the exact same issue in real ubuntu so yes, puppy is a step ahead there

01micko:

I had xorg wierdness going on with my intel machines also.
Initially report video said intel driver and 16 bitcolor.
This quickly changed to vesa and running xorg wizard
could not change it to intel.
Couldn't get 24 bitcolor.

Eventually got it straightend out by changing to 24 bit and
intel in xorg.conf section devices.

Also:
Using "export vblank_mode=0" , "glxgears" in console makes
glxgears run smooth and 5 times faster.

Hi rjbrewer

I'm just wondering if it is a false vesa report, like I reported before. Just check out your xorg.conf and I bet there are more than one driver entry. You can do it quick from the commandline: You'll get a bit of garbage but it will be obvious which entries are there. You can also check which driver is actually being used by studying /var/log/Xorg.0.log

HTH

Cheers

5.2.72 pae on the trusty Athlon XP box......... basically the same results as the non-pae version........ everything basically good ootb.

# report-video
Precise Puppy, version 5.2.72 on Thu 30 Aug 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#

Yes; 01micko , I had cards 0, 1, and 2, saying intel, fbev, and vesa.
I just changed the vesa one.