Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

sickgut · Posted: Mon 14 May 2012, 04:08 Post subject:

Hey lobster...

what are your impressions of the rasp?
is the performance better or worse than what you where expecting?

im interested in what your expectations for the rasp where and also in what ways did the rasp meet your expectations or dissapoint you in various ways...

I am interested in what you thing about the rasp because you seem to be a knowledgeable power user that uses normal desktop computing and i respect your opinions.

also how hot does the board get? do you think it would work ok in a non ventilated small space?

people buying the rasp know its a low performance computer, but they have expectations, and i intend to make an OS that will impress, and maybe exceed their expectations initially and focus on what the rasp can do very well rather than normal computing and things the rasp cant do very well. We need to initially hold peoples attention and not dissapoint them. My experience with OS hopping, first impressions are everything. I intend to make a showcase of the blissful awesomeness of what the rasp pi can do, like on the first boot it will run a demo that shows off the rasps abilities.

Sylvander · Posted: Mon 14 May 2012, 05:25 Post subject:

I'm interested in using the Raspberry_Pi connected to my 32-inch Sony Smart TV, using the TV as a monitor, and doing such stuff as browsing the web, and streaming movies to the TV.

Right now...
The smart TV can stream stuff straight from the web [e.g. LoveFilm & BBC_iPlayer], but...
It is limited in what it can do.
e.g. It doesn't browse the web, doesn't include NetFlix.
No wired/wireless mouse and keyboard supported.

Lobster · Posted: Tue 15 May 2012, 01:04 Post subject:

Guys,
My Arm experience is based on three devices, the Wii, a cheap Andoid phone and the iPad. These devices are complete and polished devices.
The raspberry pi is not like that.
The rpi boots up fast, the hardware seems robust. The small size is impressive. The development tools and programming is in place.
The operating systems seem at Alpha stage, with some program's very robust and others not working.
This is a learning and project involvement tool. As such it's potential is all in place.
The speed of the rpi became an issue for me very early on.
It is slow.
When I set up the Debian to be Puppi like, the system was more responsive and this can be tweaked further. Rpi needs puppy know how. No doubt.
The innovation that will come from the Rpi will be incredible. That is because of the large user base.
The team at Rpi are smart cookies. I can imagine a faster board. Perhaps a multi-CPU component . . .
To be involved in something that is this phenomenal, at such an early stage is great.
I can not code on the wii, the android smartphone or the iPad.
I can already on the rpi. The Rpi foundation are focussing on learning packs.
What fun. Smile

sickgut · Posted: Tue 15 May 2012, 16:40 Post subject:

sickgut · Posted: Tue 15 May 2012, 17:56 Post subject:

The Rasp Pi, being rather power efficient could easily run off of solar power.I think when my rasp pi arrives ill experiment with this. Now to find an energy efficient monitor...... however if its being used as a server it wont need a monitor.

solar power rasp pi could be placed outside with a protective casing and attached to a webcam and transmit the video stream using wireless technology and or save to the SD card.

greengeek · Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 4152 Location: New Zealand

Lobster · Posted: Wed 16 May 2012, 04:46 Post subject:

Heat:
The Arm does not have a heat-sink. Always seems cool to the touch and is under-clocked (I think I am right on that).

It will work from solar power.

Regarding code efficiency:
It is an issue in Puppy.
Puppy will load and reside in memory. So there will be no 12 second and then 3 second load (load from cache on the second load) because effectively Puppy is already in the memory cache - at all times.

A rather interesting idea is server + XenDesktop
to farm out Windows (a widely known legacy operating system) to a bunch of cheap Raspberry terminals.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1222

antiloquax · Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 405

Just got an email from RS and I have ordered my Pi. Still may have 3 weeks to wait Sad

rhadon · Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 1293 Location: Germany

I got it

Wow, a feeling like x-mas when I was a child! Laughing

Creating a sd card with debian was easy. First boot, works Very Happy

. Then I played a little bit with the menu, trying to find out, what is what Shocked

.

OK, sound doesn't work (I remember I've read about that and also about a solution) and there's nothing with video. More and more I'm stumbling about the root password. What is it?? I'm searching for this damned word for more than two hours. Nothing. I'm sure that I also read about it but I find nothing. Very frustrating. Now I remember why I left Debian and Suse some years ago.

With heart and soul I can say "I want my Puppy" Crying or Very sad

Without it, it will be a hard way Wink

Rolf

Lobster · Posted: Thu 24 May 2012, 05:13 Post subject:

Step 2 will give you Debian passwords
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppi

. . . it is like Christmas . . . Very Happy

More questions answered here
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppySchoolRaspberryPi

the most I have got out of it (sound is not a priority) is a tone
forget where the link is for that . . .

You are now at the cutting edge . . . we don't yet have a
Puppi (just the Debian modifications) - I recommend Chrome usage instead of Midori as the most useful . . .

http://raspberrypy.tumblr.com/

I am trying to compile Vala (in Slacko) - it might be better to do it directly on the Rpi - so far have got 'hello world' almost working
This page I created needs improving
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ValaGenieintro

What are your plans?

. . . actually talking of Christmas . . .
here is a talk between Catholic Priest and Scientist, Father George Coyne and the Spaghetti Monster Messiah, His Divine Darwini, Richard Dawkins Wink

http://youtu.be/po0ZMfkSNxc
. . . quite long in 7 parts . . .

Here are some alternatives to the Rpi coming out . . .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18163419

Puppy Linux
Christmas every day

antiloquax · Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 405

Your page on Genie & Vala is great.
I have compiled Vala on Arch Arm. I don't know if it would work under Debian.
Vala ARM

User: a3804781
Pwd: puppi1

greengeek · Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 4152 Location: New Zealand

I think it would be quite useful to have a Pi set up as a PXE server on a LAN. That way the Pi wouldn't need to have a screen or keyboard attached - it would just sit there and have a few isos loaded in storage and make them available to any other PC that was looking to boot from LAN.

rhadon · Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 1293 Location: Germany

Hi Lobster,

sorry for answering so late.

JohnMurga · Posted: Tue 29 May 2012, 00:15 Post subject:

My Rasp arrived yesterday ...

Hopefully I'll get play with it at the weekend Smile

antiloquax · Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 405

Excellent!