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puppy_apprentice

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Posted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 17:37 Post subject:
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i wonder if u can add to Debian boot script (before u start X) command:
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rdate -s ntp_server_address
eg. for Warsaw, Berlin and Paris
rdate -s ntp.task.gda.pl
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maybe time will be setup automaticaly every boot (only if u r connected to internet)
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Lobster
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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 08:35 Post subject:
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rdate is actually more likely to be what is being used
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puppy_apprentice

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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 08:53 Post subject:
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ok, nice, so if u connect your RPi to the net u don't have to set up your local time?
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Lobster
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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 09:24 Post subject:
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that's right
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Dave_G

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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 13:25 Post subject:
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Since I don't have my Pi, I can't check if it reports the local time as GMT,
or as the corrected time in the time zone that it's being used in.
(although I can't see how it would determine that).
I have no doubt that it must use rdate at boot time which would imply a script
somewhere telling rdate exactly which time/date server to use.
Perhaps the Pi's are all shipped with rdate updating as UK time?
EDIT:
Rethinking this whole rdate thing.
Perhaps when the Pi contacts the date server,
the server checks the I.P. of the Pi which tells it in which country/region
it's in and servers out the time and date for that country/region ?
So many questions and no Pi
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puppy_apprentice

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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 13:52 Post subject:
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yep, i thought about the same, by local time i mean UK (country of RPi), to use eg. US u have to download locale package and choose your time zone, Lobster put info about US localization on Puppy ARM page
for pupy we could use script that will check IP (country) and will add/sub some hours to UK time or make the same like with current puppy - after X start user have to choose his time zone/keyboard etc. (time will be UK but after user choice it will be corrected to local time), or make image for every time zone (if i will have my RPi in future i can manage distro for eg. Eastern Europe)
rdate don't use ip only take info about system time zone i think
page to get time zone from IP (it is posible to call these page from script and parse inf about time zone)
http://www.ip2location.com/
but, time clock is not important i had Amiga without time clock (before i bought memory card with clock) and everything worked fine ;p
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Lobster
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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 13:55 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | The Raspberry Pi does not come with a real-time clock,[5] so an OS must use a network time server, or ask the user for time information at boot time to get access to time and date for file time and date stamping. However, a real-time clock (such as the DS1307) with battery backup can be added via the I2C interface. |
Under Hardware
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
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puppy_apprentice

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Posted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 14:29 Post subject:
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so to be sure, if u get Debian desktop u see your local time not UK (BST = GMT+1) but GMT+2 (if u r from Swiss Confederation)?
and if u get UK time, try to use rdate command in console (when i've changed hour in Puppy and use rdate with ntp server hour was changet co correct - my local time, but i think it take info from Puppy time zone)
sorry for strange questions but i'm curious
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Lobster
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Posted: Tue 01 May 2012, 01:18 Post subject:
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The locales and time zone is set to London
At present it is changed like so
http://rohankapoor.com/2012/04/americanizing-the-raspberry-pi/
A new image using QT is available
QtonPi
http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
QT is a methodology we used for a while (no longer)
so I will not be looking at it . . . but some may have that preference . . .
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shadower_sc
Joined: 21 Apr 2010 Posts: 107 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue 01 May 2012, 10:23 Post subject:
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| Lobster wrote: | | Quote: | | Alsa driver is included |
Alsa Alpha
Tried it
Did not hear a growl from it.
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Did you try the following?
The alpha-quality ALSA driver included in this release is disabled by default. Type
modprobe snd_bcm2835
to enable it.
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Lobster
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Posted: Tue 01 May 2012, 19:36 Post subject:
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Yes tried
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Lobster
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Posted: Wed 09 May 2012, 02:56 Post subject:
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Somebody asked this and I did not answer
| Quote: | | But does this version do SSL? In other words what happens when you go to an https site? |
Basically I did not try a secure web site in Midori and am now recommending downloading and using Chrome (for now) as it solves some of the instability found in Midori. Chrome should have SSL, though I have not checked.
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Lobster
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Posted: Wed 09 May 2012, 02:59 Post subject:
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OK update on the state of the Raspberry's. From what little information I can glean, the SD image is unique on the Rpi. I tried woof2 three times in all but so far the image is failing to write and many packages are missing.
I am typing this in on my IPad. Cool.
Anyways I am pleased that I can use woof2 - not exactly sure that it is all there for the ARM but this is still being developed by Barry
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BarryK
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Posted: Thu 10 May 2012, 21:44 Post subject:
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| Lobster wrote: | OK update on the state of the Raspberry's. From what little information I can glean, the SD image is unique on the Rpi. I tried woof2 three times in all but so far the image is failing to write and many packages are missing.
I am typing this in on my IPad. Cool.
Anyways I am pleased that I can use woof2 - not exactly sure that it is all there for the ARM but this is still being developed by Barry  |
Woof is not ready to build for the RasPi. Currently only builds a Ubuntu Lucid based build for the Mele armv7 box.
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sickgut

Joined: 23 Mar 2010 Posts: 1157 Location: Tasmania, Australia in the mountains.
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Posted: Mon 14 May 2012, 03:57 Post subject:
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im eager to get my hands on a rasp.
if anyone has one and they wanna make a quick buck, ill buy it from you for what it cost you + $30 AUD.
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